We need a new striker!!!!

Discussion in 'Barcelona' started by krazbo, Sep 23, 2003.

  1. krazbo

    krazbo New Member

    Sep 23, 2003
    Ljubljana, SI
    Helo, I am a new guy here.
    I sow some compleinment about the strikers. I agree about that. I think Barca need a new striker qualty of Henry, Trezeguet, Makaay, Tristan, Kezman... Kluivert sucks!!! (get rid of that guy) and Saviola, I dont know about him. The results shows that something is wrong and not just this year. Since Romario and Ronaldo Barca didnt have a word class striker. What do you think?!
     
  2. DutchFootballRulez

    Jul 15, 2003
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do not say 'Saviola, I don't know about him' if you want us to take you seriously. If Argentina had Saviola in WC 2002 they wouldn't have been bounced out so early. Trezeguet is hardly world-class. Nobody sells strikers. Barca needs a Ball-winner so they can feel confident in attack and Not worry too much about overextending themselves to a counter attack Barca has the players to score 5 goals even against Italian teams..but its always the Counter-attack which worries the manager.

    New striker No. Better defenders. Yes.
     
  3. krazbo

    krazbo New Member

    Sep 23, 2003
    Ljubljana, SI
    Sorry, I didnt meant to insult you or anybody. But lets be realistic. Ronaldo scores almost in every game for Real, when did Saviola and Kluiver scores in a series. Thanks God we have Ronaldiniho. And about Saviola you have right, perhaps he need just match pratice, but Kluivert i dont think so.
    And I do agree that we need a new central defender.
    We will see tomorrow in Uefa cup who has right, i hope i am wrong.
     
  4. Juanele

    Juanele Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    Colorado, US
    Kluivert certainly is an enigma. He is the best "big" striker I've seen at the technical part of the game. However, he is not a goalscorer and not quick enough to be a playmaker. Saviola is a quick player and is probably Barça's best goalscorer. But he does leave certain things to be desired. What Barça need is a player like a Hasselbaink or a Makaay that will put the ball into the back of the net. Somehow, though, the Barça management likes to get players who play pretty but are not effective.
     
  5. Juanele

    Juanele Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    Colorado, US
    With all due respect to our opponent but they will not test Barcelona. The real test comes up in the next few weeks when play Deportivo, Valencia, etcetera.
     
  6. krazbo

    krazbo New Member

    Sep 23, 2003
    Ljubljana, SI
    Exactly, great point. But this will not save us. We need goals to win the game and if they play pretty as well even better.
     
  7. DutchFootballRulez

    Jul 15, 2003
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Basically all the club need to do is take one of the young players and say "You must save this club" ..the Barca management should have been looking for a club saviour for the past couple seasons. Somebody to put the future of the club upon. Kluivert has said he wants to go to England for more than 3 years..SELL HIM then. The problem is the Non-EU limitation, there are plenty of Argentine and Brazilian goalscorers whom can't be signed because of this limitation. Was this rule around when Romario + Stoichkov and Ronaldo played for Blaugrana?
     
  8. Juanele

    Juanele Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    Colorado, US
    Romario was pre-Bosman and Spanish clubs could only have 3 non-Spanish players on the field (now it is only 3 non-EU).
     
  9. krazbo

    krazbo New Member

    Sep 23, 2003
    Ljubljana, SI
    I understand that, but besides of all South American strikers you can get one from EU (France Portugal, England...). I read that if Liverpool doesnt get a new trophy this year, Owen will left the club!!! Owen at Barca-we are champions than. And there were a lot of talking about Deco. What kind of striker he is?
    There must one stiker from EU to sole our problems, I konw that they are expensive but if money can save our problems so be it.
    Oh and one more thing. For a last few years a lot of players came from Holland. Why didnt Van Gaal (stupid man) bring Van Nistelrooy, he is a duch player. I hope that a new board wont be so stupid as was the last one!!!! So far so good
     
  10. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    deco is not a striker - he is a #10

    trezeguet is a little overraed and tristan has been in a slump for like a year

    and i agree with DFR that kluivert and saviola are not your problem - they are both good forwards - i think you need to give the new barça some time to gel, they have a lot of new players

    and btw kluivert has 47 goals in 94 barça matches over the last two seasons - sounds like he scores goals to me

    oh and welcome to BS
     
  11. krazbo

    krazbo New Member

    Sep 23, 2003
    Ljubljana, SI
    This is to much, 1-1??????

    Ok, Kluivert scores this time, but I think the result is not what we were expecting from Barca ( they played against much lower qualitative club). Ok let say that they save the power for La liga. But if this weekend they doesnt scores more than one goal, than this might be a problem. We urgently need more goals to win games!!! (or better striker). Lets wait for a weak or two and after that time we will see where Barca in reality is, in hope where it belongst-in the top!!!!
     
  12. DutchFootballRulez

    Jul 15, 2003
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kluivert needs Bergkamp. Barca needs another Bergkamp..Ronaldinho is not Bergkamp. Kluivert needs a 2nd striker to pounce on Rebounds.
     
  13. Lithium858

    Lithium858 Member

    Aug 11, 2002
    Baton Rouge
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is Ricardo Quaresma a mid-fielder?
     
  14. The Double

    The Double Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 11, 2002
    Denver


    I don't know about that. Bielsa is probably one of the worst coaches that is employed at a major position. The fact that he kept his job bends the mind. Ask Mario, he'll tell you.
     
  15. krazbo

    krazbo New Member

    Sep 23, 2003
    Ljubljana, SI
    Kluivert should go in January if someone offer 25-36 millone Euro. In that case thare would be no danger for Puyol to live and with that money Barca could buy a better realizer (a man that would put a ball in the net). Now when Chealsa have Mutu and Chrespo, we could loan Hasselbank until end of the season. He is the type of player Barca actually need. Not for a permanent deal but the loan would do!

    http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=165349&cpid=23&title=Newcastle+failed+with+Kluivert+bid
     
  16. Fuerza River

    Fuerza River New Member

    Sep 24, 2003
    CAMPEON DEL MUNDO
    Barca would do better if Saviola would actually get to play. He came in as a sub in the UEFA game and he sits on the bench in a goalless draw with Athletico Madrid. Whats the deal? Is he injured or something? An by the way why don't they stop hiring has been coaches and hire someone worth a sh_it!
    Frank Rijkaard sucks almost as bad as Lou VG!
     
  17. krazbo

    krazbo New Member

    Sep 23, 2003
    Ljubljana, SI
  18. DutchFootballRulez

    Jul 15, 2003
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Give us Shola Amoebi or Craig Bellamy and Kluivert can go wherever he wants. Owen is not leaving England.

    JFH is on form now, because he's trying to keep a starting spot. When Chelsea wasn't cash and talent rich he kinda half-arsed it around.

    I agree Bielsa is no genius. But that's doesn't make Saviola any-less of an excellent player.

    Right now, Rijkaard is looking even more inept than Bielsa. Bielsa didn't name Saviola in Korea/Japan 2002.

    Rijkaard needs to learn to manage in Spain. this isn't Italy or Holland..

    If we sell Kluivert in January I'd like us to go after Van der Vaart now. rather than later
     
  19. krazbo

    krazbo New Member

    Sep 23, 2003
    Ljubljana, SI
    VAN DER VAART, now you are talking my language!!! If he come, Overmars can live and we get some money to cover the budget loss. Shola Ameobi, I am not sure his the right player for Barca at this time. He is a striker who would need time to adjust, but we need goals now. But with Saviola as a striker and Ameobi as a replacement this might go.
     
  20. DutchFootballRulez

    Jul 15, 2003
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Or if Van Der Vaart comes Barca can play a true 4-5-1. or 4-4-2.

    Newcaslte IMHO doesn't need Kluivert and wouldn't pay enough for him. Liverpool would use him the best because if u want to see someone who misses more than Kluivert, see Emile Heskey.
     
  21. Mario

    Mario New Member

    Mar 11, 2000
    San Salvador, El Sal
    tell me about it! just read my signature!

    VDV is not leaving A'dam before June, helloooo Ajax is in the Champions League!
     
  22. DutchFootballRulez

    Jul 15, 2003
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's all hypothetical man :p

    BTW, Why is Barca playing a midweek friendly in Mexico City!! Who are they playing? who!! I saw a commercial on GOLTV and I thought "Ok Barca Ecuador vs Emelec" but...who is Barca playing in Mexico city...and only B Squaders should make the trip and those needing more match play.

    Besides if Ajax agree to the fee in Jan. VDV doesn't have to leave till June... so everybody is happy!
     
  23. krazbo

    krazbo New Member

    Sep 23, 2003
    Ljubljana, SI
    Ok Heskey is in his own category. But Liverpool wont buy him. They are going to buy Cisse from Auxerre in june, and two more things. They have a french manager so they will buy a frenchman not dutchman. And Kluivert is way to expensive for them. Perhaps "Roman the Chelsea" fill find some cash for him, I hope so, some cash would be useful!!
     
  24. DutchFootballRulez

    Jul 15, 2003
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Barca can sell Kluivert cheaply if they want to. But I figure they'd try to get fair value for him. If Alex Ferguson finally decides to end this Forlan experiment Kluivert may be a Man Utd player for about 18 million pounds.
     
  25. krazbo

    krazbo New Member

    Sep 23, 2003
    Ljubljana, SI
    18 millon pounds would be a good price and I think Barca should take it. But personally I think that they will not pay as much for him, they will rather buy someone cheaper.
     

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