MLS Cup Memorabilia

Discussion in 'Columbus Crew' started by Robb W, Nov 25, 2008.

  1. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite Fancy Title Here

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good idea.
     
  2. Foosinho

    Foosinho New Member

    Jan 11, 1999
    New Albany, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Indeed.

    So, what do you get for $150? A high-res digital copy of the image? What usage rights come along with that? Would I, say, be able to legally print copies to give to friends as gifts?
     
  3. Robb W

    Robb W New Member

    Jan 31, 1999
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    How about we tell them to throw in a professional frame with matting and we've got a deal.

    Maybe there's a business who could buy the license and sell these prints for less. I have a feeling that license would be a lot more than $150 in that case though.
     
  4. papa2mine

    papa2mine New Member

    Nov 12, 2003
    Kalamazoo
    Anyone want the Ultimate MLS CUP Souvenir???

    The Original MLS CUP 2008 sign from the HDC? HUGE 5' by 34'!!!!

    check out item # 270309595599
     
  5. DrunkandDisorderly

    Mar 17, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Gotten through legal means?
     
  6. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Getty Images pays MLS a rights fee (mostly for services rendered) to be the exclusive provider of "commercial use" images from MLS events.

    The credential language technically prohibits other photographers (like myself, or even the Dispatch) from any "commercial use" of the images we take. It has long been common for sports organizations to view prints as commercial use - despite the fact that the Supreme Court disagrees. The point is moot as the league can choose to withhold credentials from future events.

    Newspapers can sell "reprints". Oddly, books are editorial while posters and calendars are seen as commercial. If there was enough demand I could put together a coffee table book from MLS Cup and put it up on one of those print on demand (like lulu.com) services.

    The one wild-card, and possible exception to Getty's control is that Crew photographer Greg Bartram may actually control some rights that most of us shooting the game don't have. Certainly the Crew have the ability to make prints available.
     
  7. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Legally? Almost certainly not. That's partly why the price is so high. So many of the sports images on sale on places like eBay or at sports memorabilia conventions are pirated copies with the photographers and their agencies making nothing. Folks can complain all day about all of the watermarking of the images I put on iBiblio, but I learned the hard way when I found a series of my early Freddy Adu images that had been stolen off of my website and turned into a set of rookie cards. I definitely miss the early naive days when we put up unwatermarked full-res images just to share. That stopped being fun when other folks started using our stuff to make money at a time where we were pouring our own money into it with little to no return.

    I would check with the Columbus Crew. I would hope that they are working to fill the demand. Their team photographer is one of the best in MLS, and I'm sure they're sitting on a great collection of images from the game.
     
  8. Foosinho

    Foosinho New Member

    Jan 11, 1999
    New Albany, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I totally understand that.

    I just wish there was a noncomm license setup that was appropriately inexpensive. Which, unfortunately, requires people not being jerks.

    TBH, the images I loved the best (beside Frankie's goal from behind the net) were the studio shots with the cup. I was hoping to get a couple of those for display in the Men's Den, but at $150 a pop, there's no way. :(
     
  9. fotobass

    fotobass Member

    Mar 15, 2004
    Dammit, now I owe Andy another $10...(Thanks, Andy...kind words indeed)

    None of my stuff has gone to Getty yet. They told me they didn't want me to upload postgame, even though NYRB's team shooter did. I'm glad, actually...it might cost me a bit of commission, but if I'd have had to transmit a first edit, I would've missed some or all of the fun at the party. When I do send in a second edit (which goes in a few days after the game, and they DO want that one) I can promise we'll see more than the TWO game-action images of GBS that are up there now.

    The backdrop-and-the-Cup images were shot by a Getty photographer, and I have to assume that the rights for those run differently.

    I'm going to do some research and see what, if anything, we can do through the team. I've got some ideas, but I don't know how limited the team may be from a usage standpoint.
     
  10. papa2mine

    papa2mine New Member

    Nov 12, 2003
    Kalamazoo
    Yup, Legal means they gave them away after the game. Walked right out of the stadium with it.
     
  11. B-M-T

    B-M-T Member

    Jun 23, 2001
    Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  12. Finnegans Wake

    Finnegans Wake New Member

    Aug 28, 2008
    Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  13. MFRONE

    MFRONE Member+

    Jul 24, 2000
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    He posted a picture of the plate in a thread on here. It looks pretty awesome.
     
  14. 110toyourleft

    110toyourleft Member+

    Jan 27, 2007
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: MLS Cup 2008

    I ordered mine on the 24th for pickup at one of the local cord cameras and havent heard from them. Did anyone else do the same?
     
  15. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    So... if YCJ put together a coffee table book of images would there be any interest? It looks like the print on demand services run around $25-30 for a 20 page hardcover 8x10" book. That would probably run one or two photos covering two pages, a few more filling a single page, then another group of sub-page photos.

    Books are editorial, and I can publish the images that Wade and I shot in Carson. I can't sell you prints for $150 like Getty does, but I could sell you a book of images for $30.

    I've never done one of these, but the last few issues of the ECG were laid out in color and photo heavy, so I have an idea of what it would entail. If there's real interest, just let me know.
     
  16. 9 Rush

    9 Rush Member

    Sep 9, 2004
    C'bus
    in.
     
  17. 110toyourleft

    110toyourleft Member+

    Jan 27, 2007
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  18. CrewBeat

    CrewBeat Be Massive My Friends

    Jul 27, 2004
    Manhattan
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. Robb W

    Robb W New Member

    Jan 31, 1999
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Wow. That would be great!
     
  20. Retsam

    Retsam Member

    Mar 12, 2007
    Berea, Kentucky
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I will buy one.
     
  21. Crew Cat

    Crew Cat Member

    May 28, 2008
    Andy, count me in! :)

    Crew Cat
     
  22. jairadballerina

    jairadballerina Member+

    Sep 15, 2004
    C-Town
    In there like swimwear
     
  23. til_i_die

    til_i_die New Member

    Nov 10, 2008
    columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i'd be down for this.
     
  24. OtterCrew

    OtterCrew New Member

    May 22, 2005
    Gahanna
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd buy one.
     
  25. Brook

    Brook BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 13, 2001
    Cleveland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd be in for two, please, Andy.
     

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