Buying better than Bendy (Sarcasm) The Transfer Thread

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  1. Teso Dos Bichos

    Teso Dos Bichos Red Card

    Sep 2, 2004
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    The first choice central midfield last season was Carrick and Scholes. They were joined by Hargreaves or Anderson depending on the opposition.

    XI Last Season:

    ---- Rooney - Tevez
    ------------------- Ronaldo
    Giggs
    --- Scholes - Carrick
    Evra - Vidic - Ferdinand - Brown
    ------ Van der Sar

    XI This Season:

    ------- Berbatov
    ------ Rooney --- Ronaldo
    Park
    -- Anderson - Fletcher
    Evra - Vidic - Ferdinand - ?
    ------ Van der Sar

    Ideally...

    ------- Berbatov
    Rooney - Tevez - Ronaldo
    --- Scholes - Carrick
    Evra - Vidic - Ferdinand - Brown
    ------ Van der Sar

    Against stronger opposition we would replace one of our central midfield with Hargreaves, Fletcher or Anderson or put one of our attacking options on the bench to create a midfield trio.
     
  2. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    Purely basing on what Tevez has shown in Europe so far, Rooney has a higher peak but Tevez is more consistent.

    The Boca Tevez could match peak Rooney though; unfortunately that hasn't been visible so far.
     
  3. wanye_stirrear

    wanye_stirrear Member+

    Sep 19, 2002
    Maryland
    I am a little confused. When we beat you guys, you blamed it on not having your starting midfield, but Scholes was the only person missing. You were saying that your midfield was exposed or was too weak, which left your attack isolated. Scholes is not going to help you out there. If anything, this scenario is even more attacking minded.

    Furthermore, your second suggestion of formation against stronger opposition is basically what you all played. You took out Teves and played Park instead. Of course, Anderson was not there instead of Scholes, but he is more defensive anyways. I don't really see what you are complaining about except your loss of Scholes. Honestly, I think your midfield in the ideal scenario is not strong enough.
     
  4. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I can honestly say, I do not give a flying fucc about ManU's formations and lineups in the Transfer Thread... can we take it to "The Other Team's Thread" please, thank you :)
     
  5. wanye_stirrear

    wanye_stirrear Member+

    Sep 19, 2002
    Maryland
    Ha! Maybe you have missed something, but that has been the discussion here for the last three pages - one that you have posted on more than once. I guess you are only allowed to discuss it here?
     
  6. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    Against stronger opposition, ideally we would be playing a midfield 3 of Scholes, Carrick and Fletcher/Hargeaves. Scholes, Fletcher and Hargreaves were all injured and Carrick was unfit (coming off a 3-month layoff). We are obviously though a midfielder short with Scholes winding down, Hargeaves with his bad knees and Anderson (like Gerrard) not suitable for a 2-man midfield.
     
  7. wanye_stirrear

    wanye_stirrear Member+

    Sep 19, 2002
    Maryland

    Well that leaves you without playing one of your four forwards. Also, Scholes basically is done, and Hargreaves' chances of seeing the field are about the same as Rocisky's.
     
  8. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    There are lots of teams against which all 4 can play together. It is only when we face good teams who are going to play a midfield 3 that one of them would need to sit out.

    Scholes probably has another season left in him but you obviously cannot expect him to do all the running (like in the game at pool where he was completely overwhelmed). We are probably looking to groom Possebon as his successor.
    Hargreaves either should make a sufficient enough recovery after his operation or should end up as a Rosicky. Either way, he is not contributing this season and should not be relied upon; which is why we are atleast a man short in cm.
     
  9. Ruby_99

    Ruby_99 Member

    Sep 21, 2004
    Pittsburgh, USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Pardon my ignorance, but could someone direct me to a site that explains the positions of a "true #9", etc.? I've searched many different places and couldn't find enough to answer my questions.

    Thanks in advance.
     
  10. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    of course... me and me only :)


    lol... nah, I actually think I started the convo in saying that Tevez wasnt going to come back to United, and it blew up from there...

    so, I , ME, sorry :(
     
  11. wanye_stirrear

    wanye_stirrear Member+

    Sep 19, 2002
    Maryland
    I understand where you were coming from. I was a little bored and decided to indulge. You are correct though that this probably isn't the best thread for these discussions.

    To that point, back to talking about Elia, the guy that has only been linked to us by John the female and about the Belgian kid, Defour, that has also sparked interest from everyone else as well. :)
     
  12. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    wtf are u on about?
     
  13. KozIsCul

    KozIsCul Member+

    Feb 6, 2005
    I don't think United has a first choice midfield.
     
  14. Silva 5

    Silva 5 Member+

    Mar 10, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You said SAF disagrees with me, implying I must be wrong. I believe I'm right, but if you're gonna play this game, then you're no longer allowed to criticize Wenger and when you do so, it means he disagree's with you, so therefore you're wrong.
     
  15. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    i was just making an arguement, diddnt say that u were wrong just that fergason disagrees with u
     
  16. bigINTERNETTOUGHGUY

    Jan 25, 2008
    Chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #9 is a center forward/striker.

    The position numbers come from the 2-3-5 formation (yes, I have that order correct -- 2 fullback, 5 attacking players!). By the 1890's it was the dominant formation in Britain and it was used by most top clubs into the 1940's.

    Here's the entire list:

    • 1 – Goalkeeper
    • 2 – Right back
    • 3 – Left back
    • 4 – Centre back
    • 5 – Centre back ('Libero')
    • 6 – Defensive midfielder
    • 7 – Right winger
    • 8 – Centre midfielder
    • 9 – Centre forward
    • 10 – Offensive midfielder (playmaker) / Second striker
    • 11 – Left winger
     
  17. kanonier

    kanonier Member+

    Nov 7, 2005
    Bloomington, Ind.
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Interesting. I never knew that 7 & 11 were originally 'specific' wing players. Now I'm curious who some of the #11's are in the Premiership.
     
  18. TerpSoccerFan

    TerpSoccerFan Member

    Jan 14, 2007
    Rome
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ryan Giggs and Cristiano Ronaldo?
     
  19. TheImposter

    TheImposter Member

    Jun 15, 2002
    Centerville, OH
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No objection to the discussion, but perhaps a mod could retitle the thread?
     
  20. kanonier

    kanonier Member+

    Nov 7, 2005
    Bloomington, Ind.
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Elevens...

    Drogba, Riera, Agbonlahor, Giggs, van Persie, Hughes, Duff...

    A pretty wide range of player styles right there.
     
  21. antifan

    antifan Member+

    Aug 14, 2004
    The Scottie
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why bother?
     
  22. kanonier

    kanonier Member+

    Nov 7, 2005
    Bloomington, Ind.
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Sorry, back on topic:

    when the hell are we going to sign Yaya Toure?
     
  23. Realwood

    Realwood Member

    Feb 11, 2004
    FC Dallas, Tucson
    Forget that, sign Sergi Busquets.
     
  24. akindele12

    akindele12 Member

    Jun 16, 2007
    Silver Spring, MD
    I expect no real signings(impact) in January, and honestly no one should either, big time impact players rarely move during that transfer window, if we sign someone it's gonna be like a Adebayor type signing.
     
  25. wanye_stirrear

    wanye_stirrear Member+

    Sep 19, 2002
    Maryland
    All you had to do is look at our number ten to realize that numbers do not mean shit anymore. However (and to totally contradict myself), I remember the last time I was in Africa all of the little kids told me their position by their squad number. One would say, "I play number six.", and I was supposed to know exactly what that meant. I guess it still does have meaning in some places around the world.
     

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