Seleccion de PARAGUAY (r)

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  1. Latin Pride

    Latin Pride Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    In your house
    Club:
    Olimpia Asuncion
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    The very minute he came in I said "Well looks like we're down to 10 men"

    He's useless, pretty much anyone would have scored the goal he missed today, even Tacuara.

    I don't know why he keeps getting called up, we have soo many strikers that are soo much better then him. I think I would even take an old and retired Saturnino Cardozo over Dante.
     
  2. Dan-ny-m398

    Dan-ny-m398 Member

    Aug 25, 2004
    Long Island NY
    Club:
    Olimpia Asuncion
    Nat'l Team:
    Paraguay

    Yes he is pretty much useless, but he did help in the Argentina game, at least he "Run" that was about it , and I can't understand why he keeps getting the call, U know who I really hope gets a shot one of this days, Freddy Bareiro if he wasn't playing in a Division 2 team in Mexico he would he could do some good in the NT, also I hope Diego Barreto gets his act together, because I hate it when I see Villar take goal kick , I think he will get hurt and Boabadilla might come into the game jajaja
     
  3. Latin Pride

    Latin Pride Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    In your house
    Club:
    Olimpia Asuncion
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Freddy Bareiro is playing in division 1 now, for Tecos.

    By the way, looks like Cabanas is healing well from his injury jajajajajaja

    http://www.thefutblog.com/2008/09/las-fotos-de-salvador-cabaas-y-unas.html
     
  4. Dan-ny-m398

    Dan-ny-m398 Member

    Aug 25, 2004
    Long Island NY
    Club:
    Olimpia Asuncion
    Nat'l Team:
    Paraguay
    Jjajaja I saw him in a nighclub in Paraguay with a model , when I went down for the Brazil game, Dude U will not believe how short he is, I couldn't believe, it was him when I saw him.
     
  5. Latin Pride

    Latin Pride Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    In your house
    Club:
    Olimpia Asuncion
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    :eek: should have got an autograph..........and got me one too :D
     
  6. Latin Pride

    Latin Pride Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    In your house
    Club:
    Olimpia Asuncion
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I still don't think Manzur should be in the NT, hes a magnet for cards and is the type of player that would leave us down with 10 men or give away a penalty.

    The only thing I give him credit for is that he played a part in creating the 2nd goal.

    But I prefer Ganso over him.
     
  7. olimpia84

    olimpia84 New Member

    May 22, 2006
    Bosque de Para Uno
    Club:
    Olimpia Asuncion
    Nat'l Team:
    Paraguay
    I don't know why you guys keep insisting on Estigarribia, he's not even a forward; bringing him will make the team go back to defense.
    Dante didn't play too bad, he missed that one chance and he had a nice run on the left side that ended up in a corner.

    We have many other choices upfront, Zeballos is a great forward and one of the key players for Cruz Azul, then we have Cabanas whos injured but should be back, then we have Bogado and Achucarro in Atlas and Bareiro in Tecos; not to mention Salcedo who is not doing so hot in River but can lend a hand to the NT
     
  8. Dan-ny-m398

    Dan-ny-m398 Member

    Aug 25, 2004
    Long Island NY
    Club:
    Olimpia Asuncion
    Nat'l Team:
    Paraguay
    Yes but none of them where in the roster this time around, so the only other forward left was estigarribia, so I wanted to see what he's got, I have only seen him play once so I'm not a huge fan of him, I personally would rather see Bogado instead as the first one in the bench.
     
  9. Latin Pride

    Latin Pride Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    In your house
    Club:
    Olimpia Asuncion
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I think we can all agree that we have tons of options that are better then Dante.

    1. Tacuara
    2. SaSa
    3. Cristian Bogado
    4. Zeballos
    5. Estigarribia
    6. Ariel Bogado
    7. Nestor Ayala
    8. Freddy Barreiro
    9. Julio Aguilar
    10. Pajaro Benitez (Havent seem him play but I'm assuming hes also better then Dante)
    11. Pipino (Yes Pipino is still better then Dante)
    12. Alejandro Da Silva
    13. An old and retired Pepe Cardozo
    14. Chilavert (atleast he can score freekicks jajaja)
    15. My 6 year old daughter
    16. My grandmother

    Those are all better options then Dante, I guess that goleada Olimpia gave Cerro with a Dante hat-trick cost a very high price because every since then he's been constantly called up to the NT. :(
     
  10. Dan-ny-m398

    Dan-ny-m398 Member

    Aug 25, 2004
    Long Island NY
    Club:
    Olimpia Asuncion
    Nat'l Team:
    Paraguay
  11. kingkong1

    kingkong1 New Member

    Nov 12, 2007
    Rio, Brazil
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    One thing I'm enjoying about Paraguay being first.

    At least for now no European will have the guts to say that SA is just Brazil and Argentina.

    It never wasn't - it's true.

    Peru 70, Colombia early 90s, Paraguay 98, Ecuador 2006 were more than sufficient to haunt them.

    Now once more they are forced to admit that there is at least a 3rd side capable to worry ANY of their powerhouses.

    ;)
     
  12. Latin Pride

    Latin Pride Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    In your house
    Club:
    Olimpia Asuncion
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--

    The Euro snobs will never admit it, I guess the only way to make them admit it is for one of those teams to knock out one of the big European teams from the World Cup. And even then, they will have trouble admitting it.
     
  13. Dan-ny-m398

    Dan-ny-m398 Member

    Aug 25, 2004
    Long Island NY
    Club:
    Olimpia Asuncion
    Nat'l Team:
    Paraguay
    That's not going to Happen, we can't even get Mexico and USA to admit that. A couple of weeks ago I heard some guys from Honduras saying that the only good teams that are good in S.A are Argentina and Brazil, and they were using their win over Paraguay in a friendly as an example of why they had a good chance to qualify in the S.A WCQ.
     
  14. kingkong1

    kingkong1 New Member

    Nov 12, 2007
    Rio, Brazil
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Yup.

    Take a look at this thread opened a declared fan of 2 well-known Euro teams which title is 'Best Copa America Tournament?', in which he starts by describing 'the marvels of EuroCup' and ends up by asking 'And you, what do you have to offer to world football?':
    To which I responded:
    As you said, Dan-ny-m398,

    They'll never accept even a third strong SA side, because if 2 powerhouses for 10 SA countries is proportionally equal to 8 powerhouses for 40 Euro countries, imagine if we have 3 or 4!...

    That'll simply mean that we proportionally have A GREATER NUMBER OF POWERHOUSES THAN THEM! :rolleyes: ...
     
  15. kingkong1

    kingkong1 New Member

    Nov 12, 2007
    Rio, Brazil
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    But that numeric proportion is even more negative to Europe.

    Let’s make use of more accurate numbers.

    As a matter of fact Europe has exactly 51 countries in the FIFA ranking (and not 40, as I said before), and South America the same 10.

    Europe has more than 1/4 of the total of the 200 FIFA members!...

    With that, even if we were to accept that in the moment Europe has 10 powerhouses in the same level of Brazil and Argentina, the advantadge will still be SA (by a small margin it’s true, but still an advantadge).

    Let’s concede on the other hand that historically Europe has 13 NTs of that level – and here we’ll include the countries that at least once got to the podium.

    That means: 1st, 2nd, 3rd – or gold, medal, bronze (as in the Olympics, F-1, Best Player of the World Award etc etc) - as it happens in all the other sports.

    We’d have in Europe:

    Italy, Germany, England, France (WC champs) – 4 podiums
    Hungary, Sweden, Czchecs & Holland (runner-ups) – 4 podiums
    Austria, Portugal, Poland, Croatia, Turkey (3rd place) – 5 podiums
    Total=13 pds

    Europe would have 4 firsts, 4 seconds, 5 thirds - what would give it a ratio of 0.25 pds per country (13 pds divided by 51 countries)

    And in SA:

    Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay (WC champs) – 3 podiums
    Chile (3rd place) – 1 podium
    Total=4 pds

    SA would have 3 firsts, 1 third – what would give it a ratio of 0.40 pds per country (4 pds divided by 10 countries)

    South America wins.

    Let’s give Europe though their last chance:

    Let’s count the absolute (total) number of 1sts, 2nds, 3rds in the history of WCs, and see how that works in terms of ratios.

    Europe would have 9 firsts, 14 seconds, 14 thirds - what would give it a ratio of 0.72 pds per country (37 pds divided among 51 countries)

    SA would have 9 firsts, 4 seconds, 3 thirds – what would give it a ratio of 1.6 pds per country (16 pds divided among 10 countries)

    South America wins.

    IF THEY CONCEDE THAT A THIRD AND/OR 4TH COUNTRY JOIN BRAZIL & ARGENTINA IN SA THEY’D BETTER FOREVER FORGET ABOUT ANY KIND OF WORLD HEGEMONY …
     
  16. Latin Pride

    Latin Pride Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    In your house
    Club:
    Olimpia Asuncion
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    lol I cant believe their still whacking off to beating our 2nd string team in a friendly, true mentality of a small team.

    I hope Honduras gets invited to the Copa America sometime soon so we can give them a proper spanking and show what the real Paraguay is like.
     
  17. Pit-182

    Pit-182 New Member

    Jun 9, 2008
    Modena, Italy
    :D I didn't know there was a hate between euro snobs and south americans.
     
  18. Latin Pride

    Latin Pride Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    In your house
    Club:
    Olimpia Asuncion
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    What a disgrace from Olimpia last night, I'm glad I didn't watch the game. I never even saw that kind of action from Cerro fans.

    The team seems to be going downhill year after year, its just sad to see.
     
  19. Latin Pride

    Latin Pride Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    In your house
    Club:
    Olimpia Asuncion
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I was taking a look at Antolin Alcaraz from Club Brugge, he's not that bad. I wonder why he never got a call to the NT atleast to the bench.
     
  20. Dan-ny-m398

    Dan-ny-m398 Member

    Aug 25, 2004
    Long Island NY
    Club:
    Olimpia Asuncion
    Nat'l Team:
    Paraguay
    who ?? what?? where??
     
  21. Latin Pride

    Latin Pride Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    In your house
    Club:
    Olimpia Asuncion
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Antolin Alcaraz, Paraguayan defender who plays for Club Brugge in Belgium.

    Not a bad player, seems tough. Defenently not starter material for the NT, but wouldnt hurt to have him on the bench. Atleast he seems better then Julio Manzur (who sucks)

    [youtube]GggJGUOBFts[/youtube]

    I noticed in the video he did get called up to the NT before but I believe never got playing time.
     
  22. elcombo

    elcombo New Member

    Oct 5, 2004
    dont pay mind to it a honduran said it! they speak about their national team as if it had won a couple world cups. i think that paraguay has been the most solid and consistant team in S A since 98 the only problem is their mediocre performances in the world cups. right now paraguay is the best team in south america without a doubt and one of the best in the world.
     
  23. Dan-ny-m398

    Dan-ny-m398 Member

    Aug 25, 2004
    Long Island NY
    Club:
    Olimpia Asuncion
    Nat'l Team:
    Paraguay
    Yes i noticed that about Hondurans, first I though they were joking but when I noticed they were serious I said to myself , this is pointless, about Mediocre performances in the WC , I think It had a lot to do with bad management and bad luck,

    In 98 we got as far as we could get, we were simply outclassed by France so I wouldn't say that was a such a bad show, we got as far as most SA countries did,

    In 02 it left a bad feeling like we could have done more, but a lot of factors were against us, like Chilavert showing up to the WC weghing like 220 pounds, Our coach didn't even know where Paraguay was 6 month before the WC, not even knowing the name of all the players and then Germany got that lucky goal in the last 5 minutes so it was a barely ok performance.

    In 06 it was a mediocre performance in every single possible way and it we knew it was coming before the WC, it was do to bad coaching , and bad management, we had a coach that was calling up players that were old , that haven't played in years (Acunia) and players that were out of form, not to mention that he is probably one of the worst coaches in history, then we had a president that was pretty much useless too, either way that terrible performance in the WC paved the way to cleaning up the APF and letting Paraguay finally reach the potential that we always knew it had.
     
  24. Latin Pride

    Latin Pride Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    In your house
    Club:
    Olimpia Asuncion
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    We just seem to get very strong opponents in the knockout stages that most teams in the world wouldn't be able to beat.

    86, We got a strong England who was good at the time.

    98, We got the host France, who was one of the strongest French teams of all time and eventually went on to win the cup.

    02, We got Germany who went on to the final.

    06, No excuses for 06, we should have made it out of that group but Anibal Ruiz had no clue what he was doing and also insisted on playing a still injured Santa Cruz.

    The France and Germany games where very close, France scored on a golden goal and Germany scored in the last 5 minutes of the game.

    What really held us back that we where too defensive and lacked the firepower up front to be able to constantly danger those teams but today we still have that good defensive and now the attack. I think if we make it to South Africa we can be considered dark horses for the cup.
     
  25. Latin Pride

    Latin Pride Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    In your house
    Club:
    Olimpia Asuncion
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Ariel Bogado is the current top scorer in Mexico with 7 goals.

    He's really tearing it up, scoring at almost every game he plays, maybe he should get a call to the NT? He would be a good player to come off the bench.
     

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