Attendance thread

Discussion in 'CONCACAF Champions Cup' started by Daniel from Montréal, Aug 28, 2008.

  1. Daniel from Montréal

    Aug 4, 2000
    Montréal
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Post game attendances here (full capacity in brackets). A lot of stadiums seem empty in the first round...

    August 27
    Esteli @ Montreal - 13,034 (13,034)
     
  2. MoRado

    MoRado New Member

    Feb 6, 2004
    San José. Costa Rica
    Club:
    Deportivo Saprissa
    Nat'l Team:
    Costa Rica
    i dont think there were more than 5.000 fans on the alajuela game, i was expecting at least 10.000

    13k people on the esteli game :O
     
  3. MannieG

    MannieG Member+

    Nov 30, 2006
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Montreal is a non-profit organization...it gives a great deal of it's tickets away. But atleast the people showed up, however one can only speculate as to whether the masses would have shown up in such numbers if they would have to pay a full price ticket to get in. Aside from the hardcore fans, I really think that there would have been a diminished crowd if that were in fact the case. But regardless, the people showed up in great fashion...kudos Mtl.
     
  4. brazzio

    brazzio New Member

    Aug 31, 2008
    Montreal, Quebec
    I was at the game Montreal played vs Esteli. No tickets were free, in fact the cheapest tickets are 10$ and you don't even get a seat, there's a zone behind the nets for 10$ for standing only. The game Montreal Impact played vs. Real Esteli was 20$ or more.
     
  5. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Props to Montreal, Its ashame interest isn't as high in other locations.
     
  6. pace8

    pace8 Member

    Aug 17, 2006
    Miami and Montreal
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Haiti
    Tickets were not free in Montreal. The giving tickets away era is over. The vast majority of the 13 000 that attend most games have payed for their ticket and no the average price is not 5$. Most tickets sold are 20$ and more. The Concacaf matches are actually more expensive.
     
  7. MannieG

    MannieG Member+

    Nov 30, 2006
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If this is in fact true, then I retract that portion of my statement (whihc subsequently was most of it). :eek:
     
  8. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Attendances posted by CONCACAF so far... (rounded to the nearest hundred, not by choice)

    Leg One:
    Montreal vs. Esteli - 13,000
    Jalapa vs. San Francisco - 1,500
    Joe Public vs. New England - 2,100
    Alajuelense vs. PR Islanders - 900
    Cruz Azul vs. Hankook Verdes - 5,000
    Tauro vs. Chivas USA - 500
    Metapan vs. Marathon - 1,500

    Preliminary Round: Leg One Average: 3,500


    Last night New England drew 4,000
     
  9. Daniel from Montréal

    Aug 4, 2000
    Montréal
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Wow. Do people expect it to pick up furing the group stages?
     
  10. MannieG

    MannieG Member+

    Nov 30, 2006
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I remember reading a blog of a young man who visited madrid, visiting the 3 major stadia in the city. he was able to catch a RM game, it was a qualifier for the CL against some Scandinavian team...i remember he described the stadium as seeming completely cavernous and eerily silent. He could hear the players shouting on the field. What's the point of this commentary? That at this stage of the tournament, it is expected that attendance be less than stellar (also considering it's the first year of the tournament, and not very well organized at that). Granted, there were about 20,000 at the Santiago...but taking that into the ratio of the stadium, it's fairly comparable.
     
  11. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chivas vs. Tauro - 1,821. Pathetic

    Esteli vs. Montreal - 1,000 - They didn't play in their home COUNTRY, so that's not too bad all things considered.

    Last night Marathon had a decent crowd. LOUD and decent in size. Their stadium is HUGE, so though it was empty on the ends, there were still a lot of people in that stadium. I was impressed considering the everybody else but Montreal.

    I didn't see the PR match, I was sleeping. Still if They did better than 4,000, MLS really blew in terms of just about everything while USL thrived. GO USL!
     
  12. Dr. Know

    Dr. Know Member+

    Dec 5, 2005
    Macondo
    I don't think there were more than 4,000. It was raining all day in PR and it turned away a lot of people.
     
  13. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I forgot about that weather. I have noticed the USL numbers drop down into the 2k's when the weather is awful. Either way, 2,000 would still be better than Chivas.
     
  14. MoRado

    MoRado New Member

    Feb 6, 2004
    San José. Costa Rica
    Club:
    Deportivo Saprissa
    Nat'l Team:
    Costa Rica
    I am expecting 15000+ fans on every Saprissa game (at CR)
     
  15. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As am I, hell even a few sellouts. What is it 24-25,000?
     
  16. Monstruo*Morado

    Monstruo*Morado Red Card

    Sep 4, 2008
    It is always expected to have low attendances in the preliminary stages of any tournament so let's hold on onto saying what is the profit of the CCL. As the tournament progresses, it will really depend on the teams playing.

    Saprissa, for example, would probably not have a packed stadium until the final if we make it that far. Reason being is that we have constantly made it to at least the last 4 (Saprissa & Alajuelense has the CONCACAF record of making it to the last 4 with 15 appearances each). Plus, this year's final was the third final we have been in 5 years.

    If, say, Joe Public were to even make it to the Quaterfinals, though, I am pretty sure they would have a packed stadium for every game.

    It depends on the team and who is playing as well how successful they are.
     
  17. krudmonk

    krudmonk Member+

    Mar 7, 2007
    S.J. Sonora
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    UNAM really brought in a crowd, despite this being the early stages.
     
  18. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    no reported attendance in Puerto Rico. Bummer, screws everthing up.

    Hankook Verdes vs. Cruz Azul - 500
    Marathon vs. Metapan - 2529. Looked like more to me. Either way, 2529 rocking fans standing and chanting and singing the full 90.

    Still waiting on Pumas and San Francisco. If anybody knows what Puerto Rico drew we can continue to track the average.
     
  19. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not even going to bother reporting attendance here anymore. CONCACAF reported Pumas vs. Harbour View as 1,000 attendance. Anybody who saw that match knows that's horseshit and was the best attended match of the Prelims. They also reported Hankook Verdes vs. Cruz Azul at 500 when we all know there couldn't have been more than 100 people in the stands.
     
  20. Monstruo*Morado

    Monstruo*Morado Red Card

    Sep 4, 2008
    According to CONCACAF...

    Cruz Azul vs Hankook Verdes - 5,000
    Tauro FC vs Chivas USA - 500
    Joe Public vs New England Revolution - 2,100
    Montreal Impact vs Real Esteli - 13,034
    LD Alajuelense vs Puerto Rico Islanders - 900
    Metapan vs Marathon - 1,500
    Deportivo Jalapa vs San Francisco - 1,500
    Harbor View vs UNAM Pumas - Canceled
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    Chivas USA vs Tauro FC - 1,821
    New England Revolution vs Joe Public - 4,000
    Real Esteli vs Montreal - 1,000
    Puerto Rico Islanders vs LD Alajuelense - Unknown
    Hankook Verdes vs Cruz Azul - 500
    Marathon vs Metapan - 2,529
    San Francisco vs Deportivo Jalapa - 1,000
    UNAM Pumas vs Harbor View - 10,000

    An average of 3,052 fans per game and a total of just over 45,000. That is basically rarely filling up a small World Cup stadium.
     
  21. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You know exactly how legit some of these attendances are when they are rounded to the nearest thousand. Still, Pumas drew more than 10k. The side the camera to pointed away from was more crowded than the side it was pointed at, and that stadium seats like 70,000.
     
  22. Monstruo*Morado

    Monstruo*Morado Red Card

    Sep 4, 2008
    It looked like 10k to me. I was highly surprised that many even showed up.
     
  23. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did you see the other side of the stadium. Probably 30-40% more than the side the camera was pointed at.
     
  24. Monstruo*Morado

    Monstruo*Morado Red Card

    Sep 4, 2008
    I saw it. You are just overstatimaing how many people you saw. There really wasn't that many.
     
  25. El Kapitan

    El Kapitan New Member

    Aug 28, 2005
    I think you are underestimating how many people actually fit in the Olympic stadium, believe me, I've been there many many times, and the places that are harder to fill are exactly the east and west upper sections, on the lower bowl of the stadium you can't seat more than 20k, and in the north and south sections together you can't seat more than 10k, the bulk of the fans (the other 40k) seat on either the west section (palomar) or the east section (pebetero), after all the Olimpico is the second largest stadium in Mexico, the only thing is that it was build after stadiums of old American universities, and it looks a bit flat and not as impressive as other large stadiums.

    I think that at the very least 20k fans showed up for the match, but it seems very likely that they were more. BTW you have to consider that the stadium is right across the main part of the UNAM campus and that most afternoon classes finish at 8 PM, so it's not rare for some students to finish class and go to the stadium to grab a beer and watch Pumas, on the other hand if instead of HV from Jamaica we had played a Brazilian or Argentinian side, the stadium would have sold out.

    ---------------------EDIT

    I just had a look at the data from Concacaf and there's many factor of why it could be skewed, I don't know how they did their computations but it probably was by tickets sold and not people present, in that case they are probably not factoring the Pumas season ticket holders, to which this game and actually all of the Concacaf Champions League is free, also there's giveaways, new students and some faculty members receive free tickets for unattractive games such as this one.
     

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