"Uh, so? I guess this means you've run out of valid points and decided just to devolve into talking ************. Actually, "Metrostars4Life" has the honor of starting the **** talking when he said, "What a pleasure to eliminate NE from the playoffs..." ... and I actually have plenty more valid points - just decided to masquerade one as something of a slight dig in this case. Wanna have my cake and eat it to ya know ;-). The Magpie
I don't know why Joey lost it this time,he took an elbow to the face earlier this season and did not retaliate, but if anyone thinks an elbow to the head is not worth getting upset over maybe you should ask Tab Ramos what he thinks.
As a Revs biased eyewitness to the play I have to agree that upon reflection, I don't recall seeing anything that would have called for a straight red for Mathis. The ref's assistant did wave his flag just before they went to ground. At the time I assumed it was for the elbow, but it also could have been for the atomic wedgie, or maybe both? Anyway, Franchino certainly earned his red and deserves a suspension. He is a thug, and I for one am sorry that he is "our thug." I suppose he is a step up from Ivan McKinley. Given all that, Mathis had already earned a yellow card or three for dissent that stayed in the ref's pocket. That is the ref not doing his job and in no way justifies the red in this case. But it may explain some of the frustration that led to the straight red and Franchino's pounding of Mathis. Again, don't get me wrong, it is an explanation, not a justification. I was sickened that Franchino did what he did and angry that one of our players was too undisciplined to hold his anger and let the ref do his job, no matter how poor a job that might have been. The scene should have been: the players hit the ground and the whistle blows, Franchino rolls off of Mathis and the boys growl and grouse at each other, the ref consults with the assistant and the crowd holds its collective breath waiting to see if the ref will make a good call. In this case I would have consider a good call (now that it's two days later) a free kick for the Revs. Sure, the elbow could have brought yellow, but with the holding and the chance that it was not intentional, given this ref's lack of confrontation, that would have been fair. Heck the call going the other way because of the holding is not a bad call. But given what happened, the red for Franchino was obvious and a second yellow for Mathis for holding/pushing/elbowing would have been fair. Mathis can thank his yapping for sitting out the semis and Franchino should miss a number of matches and have a much lighter wallet. Will that teach him a lesson? Probably not, I wish it would.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hypocrite! How dare you assert that the DC board is populated with simpletons joey. With the shining example of profound logic and clear thinking displayed in this thread, you have no stading from which to criticize joey. Your generalizations about the character and intelligence of the frequent visitors to the DC board are so far from accurate that it really brings into question all that you have written on this thread joey. Simply because you wish to obfuscate and attempt to steer an argument off course that you were beginning to loose, you have no right to paint "broad brush" pictures of entire groups of fans joey. Have some decency, please joey. Regardless, this is an entertaining thread. Cheers, Joey
Can they really give much of a fine, if any, to Joey? He's not paid to be in the tournament. I can't see players from Mid-Michigan or Seattle Sounder's select team getting hit with big fines. And, I don't recall el Matador getting fined for kicking Nowak in the face, nor any MLS suspension. If the USSF thinks this was serious, I'd expect to see him given the same 1 year ban Luis racked up. As for Joey being a thug, none of us are delighted.
The only thing that is clearfully painful is the dagger Guevara struck on The Revs. I seen a picture with Franchino getting in Guevaras face on the first page of this thread, although Guevaras not known for this unlike frapuccino I think we all know Guevara is not scared of anyone in the league, just look back at those games against chicago and colorado with the chicago fire goalie incident and the red card in the colorado game its nothing to be proud of but its there.
Clint at MTV Awards Joey and Mathis were spotted back stage at the MTV Awards last night. Joey was French-kissing Clint, who was wearing a pink mini-skirt. Clint really seemed to enjoy it, and all the Metro fans were drooling. (I was told he was wearing a thong under his skirt, although it might have been leftovers from the wedgie Joey gave him) All the NY fans can thank Joey for the “Mathis Attitude Adjustment” they have been asking for.
Thats the kind of response I expected from a Bruins fan. Are you honestly trying to tell me there is no code of ethics in NHL fights?
No, I'm claiming that the 1ST time I saw the replay, I saw what might have been an intentional elbow, thats why I don't begrudge the ref. But watching it again, I saw that it wasn't an elbow at all, it was just Clint swinging his arm back to free himself. A straight arm.
Yep, and it was accidental, and might not have been carded at all under different circumstances. And wouldn't have happened if Franchino wasn't trying to become his siamese brother. Finally, understanding at last.
Er...no - not quite. You said it was "accidental". Just doesn't sound that way to me. Especially given Clint's reputation and his behavior before and after the play.
Well, I feel better now, the REVS have lost 40% more often than they win but heck so do the Metrostars. Yep, I feel much better now...
Clint Mathis as Claude "The Turtle" Lemieux? YOU DECIDE! Another question: Would Revs fans prefer Joey to go down like a ton of bricks and feign mortal injury or stand up for himself?
Actually, Clint didn't have a choice in the matter. Franchino tackled him from behind, then just stayed on top of him throwing punches.
I like how a good last ten years of hockey can jump the Devils over an original six franchise in terms of pride.
You're joking, right? He went down like Sol had driven an ice pick in his eye! The replays show Sol barely touched him. It was appalling showmanship. The main difference between these two incidents is that Franchino reacted like a MAN, Ole did NOT. Unfortunately the game these days rewards divers and punishes those that stick up for themselves.
So you have Clint here, who neither dove under the contact from Franchino, nor brought the game into disrepute by fighting (although he does by wearing his hair in gosh-awful ways and with his lip) and he deserves an equal punishment (straight red) as Franchino? That doesn't make sense at all. There is no place in soccer for someone who "sticks up for himself" by piling on a guy from behind, head-butting him and pummeling him when he is on the ground. I don't care if Mathis did throw a weak elbow - it is one thing to flap your arms around when you are carrying the ball down the field and a guy is hacking you from behind. It is completely different when you are Sol Campball and you throw an elbow off-the-ball. But there is no place for a guy going psycho like Franchino. He ceased to be a soccer player when he resorted to that junk. "Sticking up for yourself" is waiting for an opportunity later in the game to get stuck in on a guy within the context of a game situation, not turning the soccer pitch into an extreme fighting demonstration.
and this is the response from a rangers fan. ? i love how people always assume we root for the team we live near. either way, at least the bruins have a team that can produce, let alone a decent management system. yes, there is a code of ethics for NHL fights, its just a matter of whether or not the players decide to follow it.
That's apparent. Speaking for myself, I would. Some of this behavior has led to some broken legs this year. Very admirable. Fact is, if you run your mouth, throw elbows, and behave in ways that would generally get you pumelled outside of a soccer pitch, you're liable - every once in awhile - to get pumelled on the soccer pitch. BTW, Clint's stand up behavior towards the main official and his courageous harangue of (a restrained) Franchino in the post-ejection walkoff also say a lot about his character.