Jared Jeffrey

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by multavici, Dec 21, 2007.

  1. new_skin

    new_skin Member

    Aug 2, 2007
    Boston
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. m vann

    m vann Moderator
    Staff Member

    Colorado Rapids, Celtic FC, & Louisville City
    Sep 10, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A short blimp from his agent, you mean ;) Could be far from the truth or spot on. But judging by the significant minutes he's received this pre-season I'm almost positive Kelly is spot on. I'm very interested in seeing how Jared pans out this season. He certainly has the tools, from all accounts, so I feel it's just putting his head down, working hard and he'll be rewarded.
     
  3. Wahoo

    Wahoo New Member

    Aug 15, 2001
    Seattle, USA
    Sorry but this is a common mistake...
    Having a defensive player "touch" the ball does not negate an offside.

    From the Laws of the Game:
    A player in an offside position is only penalized if, at the moment the ball touches or is played by one of his team, he is, in the opinion of the referee, involved in active play by:
    • interfering with play or
    • interfering with an opponent or
    • gaining an advantage by being in that position


    I think it's safe to say that he was gaining an advantage by being in an offside position. Not sure if the goal counted or not (and looking at the AR at the top of the pic it seems he kept the flag down), but it shouldn't have.
     
  4. panicfc

    panicfc Member+

    Dec 22, 2000
    In my chair, typing
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought Sonck played for CB? Looks like he gets a touch and that may be what kept the scorer onside.
     
  5. Wahoo

    Wahoo New Member

    Aug 15, 2001
    Seattle, USA
    Forget whether the defender gets a touch.
    A touch is not possession/playing the ball.

    The offensive team only has to touch the ball,
    the defensive team would have to play the ball... different things.

    At the moment the ball is played from the wing... thats where you take the snapshot of the field to determine if the player is in an offside position. He appears to be. So from here on, that player(s) in an offside position will be penalized for being so if he does one of the 3 bulleted items above - unless the ball is first played by the opposing team (different from touching the ball - or having a deflection), or it is replayed or touched by a member of his own team who was in an onside position and who subsequently puts him onside.
     
  6. panicfc

    panicfc Member+

    Dec 22, 2000
    In my chair, typing
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sorry, I thought Sonck was the first attacker for Club Brugge, I thought the ball hit him coming through and his touch kept the scorer onside, (NOT THE DEFENDER - defender has to control the ball, not touch it).

    Now, the AR could have said that the scorer was offside on the pass from Jeffrey, but not directly involved in the play (must have been blind or its a friendly, I'm not sharp).
     
  7. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Right.

    When the futhermost left player (the evential goal scorer) is offside, he is not in play. Sonck, the CB forward, (ex-of Ajax and M'gladbach) makes a run from the onside position and, when he touches the ball, he establishes the new offside/onside line.

    At that moment, Sonck's touch puts the furthermost left attacking player (the scorer) onside, as he is behind the center forward.

    Had there been no touch by Sonck, the scorer would have been offside since that's where he was when the original cross by Jeffrey took place.
     
  8. panicfc

    panicfc Member+

    Dec 22, 2000
    In my chair, typing
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Damn I'm good! ;)
     
  9. Jolien

    Jolien New Member

    May 28, 2008
  10. pwip

    pwip Member

    Jul 10, 2004
    Dallas
    nice quiet walk in the country side watching ducks....good grief
     
  11. Woodrow

    Woodrow Member+

    Dec 7, 2001
    Brick City
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    It's so contrived that it's like the country version of a scene from Boogie Nights.
     
  12. Friedel'sAccent

    Friedel'sAccent Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Providence, RI
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hopefully not the last scene. :eek:;)
     
  13. Woodrow

    Woodrow Member+

    Dec 7, 2001
    Brick City
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Actually, I was thinking about the documentary of Dirk Diggler, with him gazing out at the picturesque LA River.:p
     
  14. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    They need a few BK's, Wendy's and In&Out's in Belgium.

    Jeez, it was supposed to be a civilized nation.
     
  15. berteeuh

    berteeuh New Member

    Jan 6, 2008
    Antwerp, Belgium
  16. berteeuh

    berteeuh New Member

    Jan 6, 2008
    Antwerp, Belgium
    Once you get used to the food industry over here, it's actually quite nice to have dinner in something else than a fastfood restaurant;)
    AND... if you find it difficult to adapt, there are also more than enough mcdonald's and quicks to go around.
     
  17. usasoccerhooligan

    May 1, 2005
    i'd hope Indiana would get an In-N-Out before Belgium.
     
  18. panicfc

    panicfc Member+

    Dec 22, 2000
    In my chair, typing
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Belgian food is awesome.

    Belgian Beer is the best!

    Same for chocos and Frites.
     
  19. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    We don't need no education.
    We dont need no food control.
     
  20. Belgian guy

    Belgian guy Member+

    Club Brugge
    Belgium
    Aug 19, 2002
    Belgium
    Club:
    Club Brugge KV
    He'll learn to eat and appreciate our superior cuisine, dammit! :D
     
  21. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    I like how they say "do you reckon" a lot.

    Brugge must be in southern Belgium.;)
     
  22. YankatOxford

    YankatOxford Member+

    Oct 15, 2007
  23. Rainer24

    Rainer24 Member

    Jan 6, 2008
    Nashville, TN
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Gauffres de Liege!!!



    I'm not super nuts about the Belgian beers or the shops where they will fry anything that has ever existed, but a fresh waffle is beyond fantastic.
     
  24. panicfc

    panicfc Member+

    Dec 22, 2000
    In my chair, typing
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    waffles... damn I miss those.
     

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