Spurs 'hero' Keane is the real villain in Tottenham transfer saga

I didn't hate him I just didn't rate him much better then Defoe. After this and the statement that he released to the press about his decision I loath the man.
So did I hate him before not really just didn't rate him all that high(World Class more of a continental type). Do I hate him now...... Yes. He made a fool out of us and then he handed in a transfer request. Just so he could go to L'pool who I don't rate that much higher then us. So Maitiu I hope that clarifies it. I did love Defoe he loved us and we made a sacrifice for keane and I feel that he did us wrong.

I also understand that Defoe wanted first team football but in hindsight Defoe might have been the right choice to keep. Defoe and Bent combo pair would have been a very athletic pair upfront with a lot of pace.

I still am looking forward to the upcoming season with Bent up front finally starting. I said give him a year and lets see what he can do now that he is the first option.

 

What do you hate about what he said?

Was it this? "I would like to place on record my thanks to the board, players and fans of Tottenham for the past six years, which were the best and most enjoyable of my career to date.

Or this? "I will never forget them. I would specifically like to thank chairman Daniel Levy for understanding, that, as a fan, joining Liverpool is a lifelong dream of mine and one I couldn't let pass me by.

Or the fact he stated this, "I hope one day the Spurs fans, who have been brilliant to me, can understand this too. I have only good things to say about my time at Tottenham and expect them to go from strength to strength under Juande Ramos and Daniel Levy."


When Defoe was brought in, and formed the preferred strikeforce with Mido, Robbie rose up and reclaimed his place. Defoe was unable do the same and that is why he was sold. It had NOTHING to do with making Robbie more comfortable. Keane then saw the writing on the wall after the season and took a big pay raise to move to a CL team. He had no place in Ramos' plans and Levy and co. took advantage of the situation to blame Liverpool and to a degree Robbie for moving on so that they would not have to face the backlash of selling the clubs most popular player. I hate that Robbie is gone. He is what drew me to Spurs in the first place, but you cannot fault him for this anymore than you can Juande or DC. If Ramos had truly rated him and wanted him in the squad Keano would still be here. Simple as that.

 

He played him because Robbie is better than Defoe and Bent, his other choices. Ramos felt he could get better options in this off-season. Ramos wanted someone else, just look at how many SS we were linked with before the Robbie to the Reds stuff even began. Juande was looking for an upgrade.

 

so is Berbatov staying?

 

Im astonished at some of the hate being thrown at Robbie over this move. Anyone who doesn't see that he pretty much had to make the move is deluded.

He has been given the chance to win leagues, cups and European trophies with a team who have a consistent and proven record and manager. Who here would deny an excellent professional the best chance for success in his final years as a professional footballer? Those who say they would are either lying or are blinded by blinkered selfishness.

The simple fact is that Keane gave Spurs 6 years of his career and both sides have benefitted hugely from that arrangement. Spurs got the goals, the leader, and the huge profit from his sale. Robbie got the chance to establish himself as an excellent striker and earn the chance to really make an impact and win some serious silverware with a top european club when they came knocking at his door.

That's not to mention the fact that, as others have alluded to, he may have been told, or have realised that the new systems and style that Ramos will employ now won't be suited to his game. Plus there is no guarantee that Ramos will be a success at all, and he could look back on this opportunity in years to come when Spurs are still grubbing around at mid-table (as they have been doing for a LONG time) and forever regret that he didnt take the chance with a team with a proven track record and serious chance of winning major trophies.

 

We will not be grubbing around midtable with Ramos, would be very happy to put money against anyone saying otherwise.

Liverpool won't win a league title or the champions league again. They got lucky with Benitez in his first year, but lightning won't strike twice.

 

That is true actually and was well documented in Ireland at the time. Im the same age as Robbie and remember it well as Im the same age as him and knew of him through the local game.

Basically Liverpool wanted to give him a contract when he was 17 or so, and he was very keen. However, after consulting with his family and friends, he made the practical and sensible decision to go to Wolves as he believed he would have more chance to play first team football there. They believed this was the best way for him to develop at that point and I think they were right.

Im sure you will find articles on the internet that will state as much. Its just hard to sift through all the stuff about today's transfer. Liverpool was the team he always supported as a boy.

 

If you think this thread is 'astonishing', I advise you not to go onto other Spurs forums.

You're a Keane fan, not a Spurs fan. But we're 'deluded' and you're perfectly clear-eyed about it... riiiiiight.

 

Fixed your stupid post.

Keane is now officially a pikey-bindipper.

 

Jrob I don't like Keane all that much cause he keeps using this boyhood club term and I just don't believe it. Ramos did rate him and so did Levy. Robbie handed in a transfer Request which is what made this all very difficult for Levy to say no too. Robbie had his mind made up. I mean did you think we were going to start Bent over Keane hell no. Keane was first choice but I feel he left for all the wrong reasons and that is my personal view on it. Nobody may share that but that is the way I see it. Sorry if it upsets hardcore Keano fans but thats the way it is for me.

 

I guess it is one of those situations where we may never know everything that was said or implied by both parties behind closed doors. As sad as I am about Robbie's departure, I agree with cdmphy that Spurs will be stronger for it. Whether it is Bent, or someone else Juande has in mind, there will be so many skilled attacking players that the offense is going to flow and whoever the striker is is going to benefit immensely. Boy, do we need some steel in the midfield though.

 

I 100% agree we will come out stronger for this depature. There is a lot of class in the side now and I can't see us not being strong. I for one am really looking forward to having a complete all around strong team that can compete game in game out.

 

I think anyone that says Robbie Keane hasn't done exactly the right thing for his own career is totally deluded, yes. And if you think Im wrong, tell me why. Dont just retreat behind a post like you have just posted above by trying to pretend Im some sort of giddy kid with rose tinted specs on. Im not a Spurs fan, and I aint a Liverpool fan, Im just a football fan. I just think Keane has made absolutely the right decision.

He's 28 and Juande Ramos is tearing the whole team up and starting from scratch. Who wouldnt jump straight out of that situation and into a settled champions league and title challenging team given the right opportunity?

 

So what's your stupid point? You think I give two hoots about Bentley? Sorry but I dont. And lets just say I did give a hoot about him, and if he decides to go to Tottenham, I'll wish the kid all the best if he thinks he has made the right decision for his career.

Footballers do what is in their own best interests and fair play to them all, its a short career and they should make the best and the most out of it.

 

I can see how someone with your prejudices might think it was the best thing for his career. You suggest that Liverpool is Keane's only chance of silverware, and staying with us gives him no chance of winning anything. People on this board might disagree with ya there, mate. Actually, your hero does too... he said as much yesterday about the team going 'from strength to strength'.

Now careful! Don't contradict your blue eyed boy! Could he have possibly got something wrong?

Second, unlike Robbie you have no connection to THFC so would place no value on Keane's status as 'Mr. Tottenham'. So you think it would be no hardship to forsake that to become just another second-fiddle to Torres, like Kuyt and Voronin.

Third, you know for sure he would have had no future at Spurs? Look up the stats on how many times he was picked under Ramos while Bent, for example, wasn't. Let's hope for his sake he plays as often under Rafa's Rotation. I've never heard anyone call Liverpool 'settled' in the last few years.

Uh, thanks for the lecture... so while we are giving them out, how about you get a little less sensitive about your dear heart and try to defend every single decision he's made. If you weren't so busy taking offence you would notice many Spurs fans wish him well, or at least no ill will, and that this thread title comes from an article somewhere else.

At the end of the day, whether it was 'the' right decision or not is beside the point. He angered fans by raising expectations at the end of last season he would stay, and going back on that so soon. Are we allowed to be upset about that? Or would that 'astonish' you???

There I was thinking only Yippy Lee had fanboys.

[Sorry guys, I had a Digital moment there ]

 

Oh that's right, we as Spurs fans should hold no ambition to better the club and should just bend over whenever a "bigger" club comes calling for one of our players.

How rude of us to aspire to win things.

 

LOL! I found that witty and very funny.

 

I've said this before and I'll say it again: it took Keane a good 2-3 seasons to really settle in at Spurs. Now, maybe he's just at the point in his career where he's "hot" which will enable him to fit in at Liverpool faster, but I don't think so. For one, they don't have the service from the flanks and from deep that we have. They ask their forwards to create a lot more than we did of Robbie. A few hiccups in that respect and the "boyhood fan" may find himself on the bench in favor of an additional midfielder or even Kuyt. Rafa is ruthless: remember Bellamy? Crouch also had a fantastic spell not so long ago, for that matter and was unceremoniously shown the door.

 

So if I happen to think a player made a good decision to leave a club, Im suddenly a panting, and drooling 'fanboy', besotted with admiration for a player who transfered from one club to the other? How ironic that Im being painted as a 'fanboy' in a forum that is basically for 'fanboys' of Tottenham Hotspur. Well done. Congratulations on that.

Let's drop the hormonal attempts at character assassination please. It doesnt make you big or clever. Im sure your fellow Tottenham 'fans' are much too intelligent to fall for any argument based on something so purile.

Of course Robbie will say that the club is going from 'strength to strength'. He has no grudge against Spurs and isn't going to say anything controversial at all... he's a modern footballer, used to saying basically nothing when confronted by the press. However, objective observers of the game (such as my good self ) will notice that Spurs have sold a hell of a lot of players recently, and one would expect that a hell of a lot more will be bought to compensate. Now, given this situation, it is not unsurprising that players such as Robbie Keane or Dimitar Berbatov might worry that rather than progressing from last season, the new coach is actually starting from scratch in many respects. In this context who is to say how long it will take for the team to gel and make an impact on a league that is already dominated by 4 teams with an iron grip on the champions league places? Do these sorts of new teams generally go rocketting into the top 4? If you aren't sure, go ask Sven, Martin O'Neill, Harry Redknapp, Sam Allardyce, Kevin Keegan, David Moyes.

So are you really surprised that when he is given the opporunity to go straight into a team that has consistently made an impact on the world's number one club competition, that he takes it with both hands? We can argue about the semantics of 'settled' until the cows come home, but let's not. Liverpools record in competition speaks for itself. The alternative is a 'gamble' for Robbie as it is possible that Spurs might continue to grub around mid-table like they have consistently been doing for as long as Ive been watching football. No offense, but its the truth.

As for the whole Mr Tottenham thing, well, yes I see where you are coming from but I think you're wrong in this context. Robbie Im sure wants a legacy, but from the fact that he has accepted this move, when push comes to shove he also wants to win things and test himself in the best competition in the world. Is that going to happen with Spurs? Maybe in a couple of years when Robbie might be past it, but with Liverpool its guaranteed NOW when he's fit and at his peak.

If he didnt take this move, he would have been a fool. And I think every observer on this board knows this whether they will actually admit it or not.

 

Yo boss, I hate to be the one who brings this up to you, but this is a SPURS BOARD!!! We are going to have a biased opinion about a player who has been a fan favorite leaving for another club in the prem.

 

I thought I would set the record straight. I just saw a pic of a young Robbie Keane at Anfield with a scarf in his hand that read Liverpool F.C. I take back what I said about him being a fly by night fan. I'm still bitter but I guess that makes the pill a little easier to swallow.
In the pic I would say he was about 13. It was taken in 93. Maybe Robbie is in the right place. Sorry for all the commotion about his departure.

 

Cokane, let's not lose sight of why you came here, onto a SPURS board. To register astonishment that some fans and writers were angry at Keane leaving. I and many others have explained why that is. If you can't see it, I give up. I'm sorry for crediting you with the ability to see another side. Must be your blinding objectivity.

Now if I called you a troll, would that hurt your feelings too? Sorry, but that's what you are. And I'm not feeding you any more.