Transfer Wishlist/Rumor Thread

All these, in above average MLS skill:

A Center Back, A left Back, A right back

A Left midfielder, A Creative Midfielder, A Forward

 

MLS works on a salary cap, so it's less a question of funds than it is of "cap space." Of the $10 million we got for Jozy, only 500k (100k of which is owed to Chicago) will go directly to new acquisitions; the rest will be divided between the league office and upgrades to the organization's soccer infrastructure, most likely the youth team.

Right now with that $400k, Osorio plans to spend all of it on left backs - Jorge Rojas (Venezuela), Gabriel Cichero (Venezuela) and Diego Jiminez (Mexico). He plans on converting the 31 year old, athletically impaired Rojas to central attacking midfielder, playing Cichero centrally, and Jiminez on the wing. In the spirit of the thread, I will say that such madness is absolutely not part of my transfer wishlist.

What would I really like to see? A left midfielder, a central midfielder and a forward. I have zero confidence that we'll be able to address any of those needs, or even the desire to.

By the way, what made you choose to become a Red Bulls fan? And do you know what you're getting yourself into? This franchise has been nothing but 13 years of miserable failure.

 

"athletically impaired Rojas ", quite a harsh comment about a player who is playing at a much higher level than anyone in the Red Bulls right now. I guess you have missed the Venezuela vs Brazil game or the Venezuela Vs Uruguay game. Before speaking about a player you dont know , please do your research.

As of Cichero, he will not come to the Red Bulls because Italia FC which is the club that owns his contract have important offers from Colombia and Brazil where all are much better than that of the Red Bulls, that has already been confirmed by Osorio.

So at this point, Rojas is the closest to sign while on monday we might get an answer from Jimenez who is no super star.

So, who is the best player being acquired by the RB? Rojas.

At this point there are no signings, and you can bet you will not get the talent that could of been found in Cichero.

 

I've done plenty of "research" on Rojas, and like another fella we got from the Colombian league - Sergio Galvan Rey - I don't believe he's suited to playing as an attacker in this league. Please stop assuming that people who express an opinion that is contrary to yours is doing so out of ignorance.

 

So Rojas can do it in the national team of Venezuela vs brazil but he can not do it with the Red Bulls in the MLS.

I wont even state out my opinion i will just follow Osorios idea who has more knowledge and experience then any of us.

 

Osorio, the same guy who signed Wanchope, Echeverry and Boyens. Osorio, the same guy whose old team is playing better now that he's gone, and whose new team is playing worse now that he's here.

Could Rojas be a decent MLS player? Yes. As a left back, or possibly as a left midfielder with folks who will move into space around him.

Will Rojas be a quality attacking midfielder? I sincerely doubt it. He's 31 years old, has never played that position in his entire career, and is about to step into a league which is much, much more athletic and physical than what he's used to. Could he do that at left back where 90% of the game is played in front of him? Probably. Can he do that while learning a new position where the game is coming at him from all angles at all times? I have my doubts. And the fact is, he doesn't have the athletic ability to make up for his lack of experience at the spot and buy him the fractions of a second he'll likely need to make the right play. I truly hope he's not signed to a guaranteed, multi-year contract.

 

Sorry to butt in here as a rival supporter but I thought I'd make a correction to what's been said. This information comes from a very good Washington Post journalist, named Goff who covers MLS.

Of the Altidore transfer money 2/3rds of it goes to Red Bull, 1/3 to the league. As someone said, only a small amount of that 2/3rds(500k not 400) can be used on regular players. However what was not said was Red Bull could use all of it if they wanted to on a Designated Player (DP). If Reyna retired you could spend all of it on the salary of a Designated Player as there are no rules preventing this use of transfer money since Designated Players are paid outside of the Salary Cap and only count for 400K towards the cap.

But Red Bull can not sign a Designated Player unless either Reyna retires or Angel left.

 

No, we can only use 400k of it on regular players because we owe Chicago 100k from the allocation as part of the deal to hire Osorio.

Now piss off back to your own boards unless you come here with your facts straight, you DC twat.

 

^^ What he said, basically a whole new team. Can't be any worse than the expansion franchise we are forced to watch now.

I'd also like the team to renege on the trade of Marvell Wynne to Toronto for the sack of potatoes we got in return. Yeah yeah I know too late but ehh.

 

When we started the season our defense seemed solid. Osorio even said that Parke/Goldthwaite could be the best central defense pair in the league. Then they signed Boyens, who has not impressed me in ANY game, including his first. And it seemed like the defense started to fall apart.

We all knew Jozy was living on borrowed time here, and when they signed Echeverry it appeared they were preparing for Jozy's transfer. Once again, though, I was not impressed the first time I saw him on the field. And I'm still not impressed.

We let two seemingly promising young players go (Kassel and Brunner). Of course, short term they wouldn't have helped us a lot. And it does seem that every move this year has been a "short term solution" move.

I'm not an expert, nor do I have "insider info". I'm just a fan. And for this fan, the moves made so far this year are not encouraging. Unless we sign a VERY high profile forward, playmaker and left back, I will not be celebrating. And I don't think we WILL sign high profile additions.

The fans have known from pre-season the types of players and in which positions we needed. Why once again spend our time "analyzing" and posting what should have been abundantly obvious from the beginning?

 

Wynne went for Freeman. That was a good trade.

I think you're thinking of the Dunivant for Goldthwaite trade. In which case, isn't Dunivant out injured right now?

"Yeah Mo, uhh . . we're just gonna go ahead an renege on that trade we did one time, if you could uhh . . just send that guy back, that'd be great. Mmmkay?"

I really do see that happening.

 

If wynne for freeman was a good trade then how can freeman not play over Boyenshitz or Leitches? goldshitz has been regressing the past month and looked lost last night. I think we got fleeced on all our deals the past year including giving up 100K allotment and a #1 oick foir a coach that we provide no players for and have him doing his own scouting between games in other countries.

 

Here's my wishlist:

a whole new team except for Richards and Angel

 

Because Osorio is an idiot.

He's always been a pretty poor left back. It's not regression, it's just that he's being played out of position. When he's central he's pretty good, but it looks like Osorio has no desire to play him centrally anymore.

 

Then how about this, a management that can figure out how to spot talent and not trade away the ones that we already have.

Wynne and Dunivant would be massive improvements in comparison to any of the traffic cones posing as red bull defenders.

Freeman for Wynne was a crap trade. Wynne starts and Freeman is pulling splinters out of his ass for two different coaches two years running. I'll take, and I'm willing to bet a bunch of others would too, Wynne over Freeman any day of the week. Stupid trades like this have left this team bereft of talent.

 

Or because Freeman gets beat like a 2 dollar whore. And both Arena and Osorio figured it out watching him playing a couple of games. Both banishing him to the bench where he belongs.

Unfortunately Bruce Arena traded for then benched him and Osorio has come in and is stuck with him.

 

Bullshit. Freeman went to the bench last year because he was hurt, and this year he's had exactly one poor defensive game. Chris Leitch has now had four.

Freeman's an asset to this team and should be starting every game. Period.

 

We'll get 1 of 3 in July, won't play until August due to Visa issues and then next year we will try and get 2 more and the have to replace JPA as he will probably give up on us as would be expected. I am not too optimistic based on last year or so with this RB organization. There is no real commitment to winning here. Fans feel it, Coach has to feel it and players usually figure it out in time.

 

so in other words we need a team , my God its that bad huh

 

Let me ask you a couple of questions.

1. Do you think Rojas can play at the MLS level?
2. Where did you scout Rojas , what league, what games?
3. How competitive you think MLS compared to the colombian, Ecuadorian and Venezuelan league?
4. What level of athletic ability is required to play in the Ecuadorian and Colombian League?

As to not wanting him to not be signed to a Guarantee contract , I am sure Rojas will get one because he has many options that are better then what the Red Bulls can offer in soccer ability.

If Rojas comes to the Red Bulls , he will be the best player on the field, hands down.

 

Better than JPA as an attacking player?

 

If you find yourself unable to have a civilized conversation with DC Scum fans, you're probably a real deal Red Bull/Metro fan.