Guevara punch?!?

Discussion in 'D.C. United' started by Eastern Bear, May 26, 2008.

  1. Eastern Bear

    Eastern Bear Member+

    Feb 27, 1999
    Great Falls, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    I haven't seen a thread dedicated to it, but is Guevara going to get a suspension for the blatant punch he threw at Devon McTavish? I can't stand that guy and that was an enormously cheap shot. I hope he has to sit at least one game for that.
     
  2. Vasco

    Vasco New Member

    Jun 8, 2003
    RIO
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    one can only hope
     
  3. NattyBo

    NattyBo Member+

    Apr 30, 2004
    Nunya
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Knowing MLS they'll probably give him some sort of award... :rolleyes:
     
  4. DCUSKINS

    DCUSKINS Member

    May 26, 2008
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He should. On a side note he's from my native country and if there is one thing i've always hated about him and what keeps me from rooting for him, thats his lack of discipline. I can't stand that.
     
  5. PVancouver

    PVancouver Member

    Apr 1, 1999
    Exactly when did this occur?
     
  6. Rjbatzler

    Rjbatzler Member

    Oct 26, 2007
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It wasn't exactly a punch. It was like a slow-mo punch. Honestly, as much as I dislike the guy, a yellow card was probably punishment enough.
     
  7. Riz

    Riz Member+

    Nov 18, 2004
    R-ville, Murrlin
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    The punch occurred before Robert's sending off iirc.

    Devon is on the ground, getting up - and clear as day Guevara punches/smacks/whatevers Devon in the head.

    I expect nothing less from Guevara.
     
  8. rugman

    rugman Member

    Oct 13, 2003
    Annapolis
    In addition to Guevara getting away with this, did anyone notice the Roberts elbow thrown at Namoff (I think). They both went down in a heap with Roberts on top and it looks like he drops his elbow down at Bryan. Didn't look like he connected but it seems the intent was there. I think it was around the 63 minute mark but after enjoying a long weekend (thanks DCU) I can't be sure.
     
  9. Sanguine

    Sanguine Member

    Jul 4, 2003
    Reston, VA
    calling it a punch in the thread title is pretty sensationalistic. It was barely anything.
     
  10. MattMathai

    MattMathai BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 28, 2004
    Annapolis
    That's not the point. It was an attempt to strike an opponent. That's a red card.
     
  11. Bootsy Collins

    Bootsy Collins Player of the Year

    Oct 18, 2004
    Capitol Hill
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There was more to it than the slap that got Drogba red-carded out of the Champions League final.

    That said, I'm fine with it being simply a yellow.
     
  12. QuietSide

    QuietSide Member

    Oct 18, 2002
    I'm actually kind of curious about Guevara's other punch, when he couldn't outjump Fred(?) and punched the ball with his hand instead and MAYBE broke up a quick DC counter attack going the other way. Isn't that supposed to be an automatic yellow? I seem to recall Eski picking up that yellow several years ago in a playoff game...
     
  13. TOTC

    TOTC Member

    Feb 20, 2001
    Laurel, MD, USA
    Ponk-ass needs to be sneaked (if you catch my drift).
     
  14. owendylan

    owendylan Member

    May 30, 2001
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    I doubt he'll get anything else. Devon's dad said it was kind of slap/punch type of thing. It kind of looked like as Guevarra was flailing around on the ground his hand hit Devon. Not sure how much intent there was but with Guevarra you never know.
     
  15. Untroubled by Reason

    Dec 5, 2007
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know how MLS handles after-the-fact discipline from video evidence, but my understanding is that, had this occured in the EPL, the league could not increase if it was something that the ref saw and judged on the field (which is what I think happened here w/ the yellow card to Guevara). In other words, he probably gets away with a cheap shot. I'd imagine McTavish may remember this for the next time the two side meet.

    Aside from that, I thought the referee had an excellent match (although Laurent Robert might not agree ;)
     
  16. BroonAleMagpie

    BroonAleMagpie New Member

    Apr 14, 2000
    Fairfax, VA
    Robert card?

    What was that red card for? I've not been able to track it down in match reports, and I don't have the game on DVR.

    Certainly whatever the AR saw, it just took a word from him and the center was ready to eject the onetime Magpie...
     
  17. NattyBo

    NattyBo Member+

    Apr 30, 2004
    Nunya
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Re: Robert card?

    It was a second yellow (issued for dissent).
     
  18. Bootsy Collins

    Bootsy Collins Player of the Year

    Oct 18, 2004
    Capitol Hill
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Robert card?

    Are you sure about that? It's listed in the box score as a straight red for abusive language (which, by the Laws of the Game, is a straight red offense different from dissent).
     
  19. NattyBo

    NattyBo Member+

    Apr 30, 2004
    Nunya
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Re: Robert card?

    I hadn't checked out the box score, I just assumed since he was already carrying a yellow he had picked up another one for his unpleasantnesses with the Loud Side AR. You must have it right then.
     
  20. Footer Phooter

    Jul 23, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
    It looked like a clear (and deliberate) strike to the face to me. Should have been a red card. I'm sure nothing more will come of it though.
     
  21. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    Just because Guevara's a ********** doesn't mean the intent wasn't there.
     
  22. Pan-T Clause

    Pan-T Clause New Member

    Oct 21, 2004
    Silver Spring
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It looked intentional to me but I am kind of bias, so I can't really say much. I haven't liked that guy ever. He is another one of those guys that gets too much credit for not nearly enough output.
     
  23. Untroubled by Reason

    Dec 5, 2007
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Robert card?

    I think Bootsy's right: Robert saw a straight red. Apparently he said some very nasty things to the referee because he believed a DC United player had deliberately handled the ball in the box. This usually goes beyond, "You suck, ref," and traverses into questioning what animal(s) his mom mated with in order to produce him and possibly who supplied his pay envelope before the match. At that point, it's more personal than dissent.

    The ref stopped play for the offside, and showed Robert some shiny red vinyl. Either way, he's gone, so he not only misses TFC's next MLS match, but because of the red he's that much closer to a suspension for accumulated discipline points. :D Like I said, I thought he did a good job overall.
     

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