Imagine having the best Division One teams and Domestic Cup Winners in a 64 team aggregrate single elimination playoffs…. A true Champion of Europe can be determined instead of having all the confusions. Instead of staggering the tourney all yr long reserve the month of mid april to may or late may time frame for the tournement. more excite ment and stuff....
why Not Champions can be crowned on the same season/ calendar yr. and its the same teams. Not like how it is now when you have a imcomplete season and play your play offs the next season. It would really decide who is really champion.
if Champions League was aTrue Post season Playoffs like the NFL or MLB or NBA where the"league" Champs and domestic winners face off to determine a true champion in europe.
That's basically what it is already. It's just that the postseason happens to occur during the same time as the next regular season.
Not really, thats another reason why soccer is not popular in theses parts just the simple fact that the format is not consistant you dont have the teams you shold have playing in the Champions league which is pretty sad, I think. Imagine that Looking at Man U and Arsenal and chelsea and Liverpool bring momentum towards a grand tournement higher stakes involves especially for doubles and triples, Imagine the Great buildup that Long ass "season" would bring and a final Champs league tournement to decide a true Champion of all.(of Europe that is) It just makes better sense, its bad as it is that there are single"tables".
Seriously addressing the issues at hand. Totally unworkable for a number of reasons. 1.) Not all European teams play on the same seasons. In particular, the Irish, Russian, Danish, Norwegian, Swedish, Finnish, and Ukranian Leagues play a summer schedule, much like MLS does. What's "post-season" for them is "mid-next-season" for the rest of Europe. Say what you will about the quality of those leagues, but the fact is, those leagues put 4 teams in the group stage last year. 2.) Time A 64-team home-and-home tournament (assuming a relatively packed fixture schedule of once-a-week, still extends the season by 12 weeks. OK.....11 weeks provided a single, one-off final. 12 weeks from this weekend would see the season end in the last week of July or the first week of August. And this year's season ended early because of the EUROs. In a regular season, the "Final" could well be contested the week before the new season opens, and year-round football with no offseason isn't healthy for players. 3.) Number of teams A 64-team tournament seems like a nice round number, but this season, 76 teams participated in the Champions League. If Kosovo ever gains EU recognition, that number goes up by at least one. So who gets the shaft in making the 64-team cut? A champion from a small league who despite all odds scrapped their way to the top? A champion of a league who happens to play on a different schedule (largely because of weather concerns)? A runner-up from a stronger league who is likely in a major city, thus depriving the competition of television revenue and a large fanbase? None of those seem fair or practical. It works fine the way it is now. Leave it.
Its pretty sad that the format it is now doesnt conclude in a real hard fought Champion. Instaed its based on the previous seasons results that should not be relievant to the season the Champs league is on which is the following season. so Basically there is no build up and momentum it just stops at the regular season... which again i say its very sad to see how a ManU team right now and other League Champs and Cup winner right now can do ..... oh yeah it can be done, dont need to strtch the entire calendar yr on the regular season.
The format is fine as it is. These players play enough games already, adding some crazy 10-11 week tournament on top of their domestic leagues is absurd. This tournament does display and decide the best teams in Europe. Is anyone going to argue that Manchester United or Chelsea do not deserve to be in the final, or that they are the top teams in Europe?
Champions League is fine. They just need to fix the UEFA Cup, so it's not the consolation prize that it has become these days. Anyway, why is this still in MLS General?
Are you going to try to argue that Man U and Chelsea weren't still the two best teams in Europe this year. It worked out just fine. Leave it. It ain't broke so don't fix it. They sort of have that addressed by the UEFA Super Cup. It's not thier fault that most people ignore it even when the CL winner loses.
Im saying champions league and the euro soccer leagues dont have the consistant structure that allows a our right champion like our North american leagues do...... the CL , indeed is a so called seperate tournement, but look where it getting there qualifying from the Previous season instead of the same season. So those team that play in the following champs league arent always gonna be the same roster... also isnt the champions league suppose to the the championship of europe??? why team would sacrifice trying to win champs league instead trying to wn a league.??? you see you couldnt do that here in the states cause it dont make sense..... like another example in the NFL the NE patriots had the best season record but choked in the Super Bowl guess what they still not champions cause they didnt win the Super bowl. so obviously NE couldnt have been the Better team especially on that day . thats why we value playoffs and a seaon is not complete o at least a champion isnt declared untill you go thru all phrases regular season hen playoffs and then championship..... so but europe doesnt have that.
Untrue, and I shall explain why. They have the same problem now, in that the champions of those leagues wait 6 months more to being the CL. That wouldn't change. Two points; first, moving the CL to the "post-season" would mean that a bunch of dates would open up, thus allowing you to compress the league/domestic season. So the non-calendar year Euro leagues could end in April instead of May or June. Plus, you could have a pre-determined bracket and play twice a week (keeping home/away until the final), Saturday/Tuesday or Sunday/Wednesday. So a 64 team tournament takes 6 weeks. If you end in early or mid-April, that puts the CL final pretty much where it is now. Yes, at least one team from every league makes the CL, but that's a joke. Most of those get eliminated in the first couple qualifying rounds and their European campaign is done. I think a 48 team tournament works, with the top leagues getting a bye into the second round. The top leagues get 2 or 3 spots (champion, cup winner, and potentially league runner-up), depending on what people want. The UEFA Cup can work the same way, but maybe make that one game series to let more teams in. Does it? Yes, it's exciting and all that. But it is clear that teams don't always treat the league with the seriousness because of the CL (like say Liverpool gets accused of often). This fixes that. It also eliminates players demanding to go to a team in the CL, because they won't know who will be in it.
why is this in the MLS section again??? I could have sworn this was for MLS only. Thats right if he posted this in the RIGHT section he would be grilled so bad he wouldnt be able to post there any more. Lets go see how a MLS topic doesnt in the wrong section.l
In Europe we do it our way, DCUdiplomat96 deal with it!!!! (in the spirit of your signature) Oh, but he did.