What would you like in a new stadium? (Part IV)

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  1. red_man

    red_man Member

    Jun 14, 2004
    People have a lot of love for Tony and Alba's on this board. I went to the one on Soquel in Santa Cruz and wasn't impressed at all. What am I missing? Did I get the wrong pie? Did I go to the wrong location? (sorry to be off topic)
     
  2. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Well my uncle and aunt Tony & Alba actually had to sell and franchise those Santa Cruz or over the hill stores, out. They are no longer owned privately and the quality has suffered big time. I believe they are using the same recipes but they are also using unfresh stuff and generic cheese, pasta, sauces etc etc....The ones in Mountain View & Stevens Creek is still family owned
    It just goes to show you as John Doyle said when you franchise a restaurant out as AEG did with the Quakes, the quality suffers...and the proof is in the pizza.....
     
  3. red_man

    red_man Member

    Jun 14, 2004
    Thanks falvo. I'll check out one of the ones over the hill. It's too bad the locations they sold got to keep the name - I think it's bringing the brand down. That's the nature of the frachising beast I guess.
     
  4. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Well that coupled with inflation and the fact that the owners are no longer involved with the day to day making of the dough and everything else, it just doesn't happen too much anymore.

    If you go to Stevens Creek ask for a family memeber to make it but you know even if they aren't there, it might not be as good as it once was. Oh well......
     
  5. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: i'm sure it's been mentioned.....

    Um, what?
     
  6. RoundBallNewbie

    RoundBallNewbie New Member

    Aug 23, 2006
    DC in exile
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: i'm sure it's been mentioned.....

    Some of those sections behind the goal no longer have the metal benches.
     
  7. bigdumbgod

    bigdumbgod Member+

    Jun 25, 2005
    San Jose, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Never been less than fabulous at lunchtime at Stevens Creek. Slice/pasta + salad + bread = :). This quality must go to the Epicenter.
     
  8. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Yeah when they pay attention and the owners are there to oversee what's going on, its pretty good. When they are careless it suffers. I guess any restaurant is like that.
     
  9. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Was it my imagination or did I see a Ferris Wheel outside Pizza Hut Park in Dallas?
     
  10. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: i'm sure it's been mentioned.....

    If that's the case, then it's because members of the orange bandwagon have been tearing up their stadium, which should come as no surprise to anyone who knows how they've busted seats and spraypainted graffiti at PHP.
     
  11. RoundBallNewbie

    RoundBallNewbie New Member

    Aug 23, 2006
    DC in exile
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: i'm sure it's been mentioned.....

    Don't know and don't care. All I know is that the benches aren't there and at least some of it was done by the team itself. It was an example, leave the inter-Texan bitchfest for MLS General.
     
  12. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I herd Lew during halftime talk about the new stadium and he referred to uncle Phil and said that he got him involved with buying the club. He said the new SSS will be a 15-18k seater and that for big matches, they will use the 49er facilty in Santa Clara.
     
  13. FUAEG

    FUAEG Member+

    Oct 18, 2005
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Really? What was the context? Were you eavesdropping or was he speaking to you?
     
  14. smpfi65

    smpfi65 New Member

    Jun 18, 2004
    BySoLeDaDsTaTePriSoN
    He mentioned it during the halftime show in an interview made by John Shroeder on tv during the match ;) & he said it's a healthy sport and that they have a couple a lot more votes to get through but the mayor told him things look good and that they're gonna get there somehow.
     
  15. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I wish John Shrader would have asked Lew (while he seemed to be praising uncle Phill in the interview) why Phil/AEG didn't just sell him the club?
     
  16. Albany58

    Albany58 Member+

    Sep 14, 1999
    Concord, CA USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OMG, falvo, you just revived my anti-AEG hatred again. It lies not too far below the surface. Too bad the question was not given.
     
  17. smpfi65

    smpfi65 New Member

    Jun 18, 2004
    BySoLeDaDsTaTePriSoN
    And what do you think would have been his answer do you suppose ?
     
  18. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy

    Probably something to this effect......

    "But that freaking Phill didn't want to sell it to me becuase he is such a stupid lousy tight wad....& I forgot he is such jerk!"
     
  19. Nadir

    Nadir New Member

    Mar 29, 2005
    Campbell, CA
    What would I like in a new stadium?

    1 - Leg Room
    2 - Good Food Choices
    3 - Terrace sections for supporters groups (OK I admit this is a fantasy)
     
  20. JohnWP

    JohnWP Member+

    Jun 24, 2004
    Monterey, CA
    How about a page out of English grounds and name the stands. Instead of simply calling them East or West sides, how about calling them, for example, The Troy Dayak Stand, The El Camino Stand, or whatever.
     
  21. JohnWP

    JohnWP Member+

    Jun 24, 2004
    Monterey, CA
    One rich guy's not going to bag on another rich guy publicly, not in this situation. I'm a teacher. Students always want me to bag on a teacher they don't like, I'm not going to do that -- even if I agree with the students that the teacher in question is a jerk. It's not professional and it burns bridges. Lew's going to try to avoid burning bridges in the MLS rich-guy club.
     
  22. sj_oldtimer

    sj_oldtimer Member

    Nov 18, 2005
    Clovis CA
    It's also possible that AEG wanted too much money for the team. After all, it was obviously a championship team, so we can bet that the price would have been substantially higher than what Wolff paid for the expansion club, even with the need to establish the organization considered. Wolff may love soccer or baseball, but his heart is in business.
     
  23. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Yeah that is true. I worked and personally knew the people involved in a stock option scandal and one guy blamed the other but one got convicted of federal crimes while the other one didn't......Even though they both hated each other, because they were both partners in crime, they weren't about to turn in each other publicly....its kind of like the mafia...the higher you go the nire crooked it becomes...
     
  24. FUAEG

    FUAEG Member+

    Oct 18, 2005
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was going back through some old posts for a good laugh and this picture caught my eye. From one of my best post (IMHO) and nobody even commented on it.

    It compares a small and tight Fratton Park and the Ugly US style SSS HDC.
    Everything's scaled the same and it shows how much of Fratton could fit in front of the
    front row at th HDC. Looks like over half the capacity of BS could sit closer than the closet seat at the HDC.

    [​IMG]

    It's a good illustration of proper utilization of space. Fratton is brilliant in that regard. Yes it might be a falling down piece of dung, but even so the game experience has to be much better that HDC (haven't been there myself).

    This:
    [​IMG]

    Is clearly better than this:
    [​IMG]
     
  25. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I want whatever will cause less complaints from the board denizens. So my list would be:

    1. No railings
    2. Extra legroom/butt room
    3. Area to tailgate
    4. Good beer selection in the stands and possibly a beer garden
    5. Roof
    6. Full sized field (75x115) or at least the ability to have that if Frank wants to use it, if not it's his call
    7. Big HD scoreboard.
    8. 18-20k capacity

    8. My own personal want would be the big light standards they have in their renderings.

    That should make everyone happy.
     

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