MLS Attendance Analysis: Week 6

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Andy_B, Apr 28, 2008.

  1. Andy_B

    Andy_B Member+

    Feb 2, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Code:
    % of season completed				
    16.70%				
    Year	Average	Median	%<10K	%>20k
    1996	25265	24592	11.5%	65.4%
    1997	17027	13352	26.9%	26.9%
    1998	15511	13037	12.5%	21.9%
    1999	14553	14215	34.4%	18.8%
    2000	13571	12922	28.1%	15.6%
    2001	14694	14505	19.2%	7.7%
    2002	17133	14065	8.7%	21.7%
    2003	14634	14586	28.0%	20.0%
    2004	15779	13417	28.0%	36.0%
    2005	14732	12499	28.1%	15.6%
    2006	16959	16666	15.6%	28.1%
    2007	14780	14130	15.6%	15.6%
    2008	15611	15271	17.1%	31.4%
    				
    				
    Final Numbers				
    Year	Average	Median	%<10K	%>20k
    1996	17406	15093	21.9%	26.3%
    1997	14619	12733	25.0%	16.3%
    1998	14312	11871	26.6%	16.1%
    1999	14282	12973	32.3%	15.1%
    2000	13756	12690	34.4%	12.5%
    2001	14962	13431	26.6%	17.7%
    2002	15821	14108	17.1%	18.6%
    2003	14898	13641	23.3%	18.0%
    2004	15559	13285	24.7%	25.3%
    2005	15108	12619	27.1%	17.7%
    2006	15504	14175	18.8%	18.8%
    2007	16770	15353	8.2%	29.7%
    
     
  2. Andy_B

    Andy_B Member+

    Feb 2, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It is interesting to note that as choppy as this year has felt attendance wise, we are arguably off to a better start than even last year when comparing similar amount of season played (2008 is better in 3 of the 4 categories we track).

    2007 had an awesome last half of the year though. Not sure if we can expect the same in 2008.
     
  3. Maitreya

    Maitreya Member+

    Apr 30, 2007
    Providence, RI
    The additions of Blanco and Beckham mid-season last year will be impossible to top, but it is possible that a team or two will find a designated player who may help their attendance some.
     
  4. IlliniOnFire

    IlliniOnFire Hostile AND Abusive

    Oct 8, 2006
    Southern Illinois
    http://uskickblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/2008-mls-attendance.html

    as a league, down 6.8% from last year's total....

    but given the "beckham" large crowd games haven't been factored in (and won't happen with the same zeal this year), its not a big deal.

    what worries more is the number of very low attendances... Chicago getting 15,000 isn't too bad, even though I'd like to think they should be getting 18-20,000...

    Columbus getting 6,000 and NE getting 8,300 for a game is a bit more concerning...

    overall though, not a bad year so far..
     
  5. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. scheck

    scheck Member

    Mar 13, 2007
    Denver
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know this isn't a very sound way to project the attendance, but if you factor in the same rate of change from last year's 16% to 100% then we'd have an attendance of 17,700 by this year's end.

    I doubt the attendance will grow as much in the end of the season this year though. We won't be seeing almost 70k in giants stadium again or a sold out RFK.
     
  7. chitrader

    chitrader BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2002
    Hell-Lay
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Four straight home games for the Galaxy haven't hurt either.
     
  8. Golazo

    Golazo Member+

    Apr 15, 1999
    Decatur, GA USA
    ¿Wouldn't it be nice if last year's eye-popping category (<10k, which can't be replicated because of KC) were to be replaced by its cousin (>20k)?
     
  9. CACuzcatlan

    CACuzcatlan Member

    Jun 11, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it has. Or at least not lived up to the potential. If the Toronto game and the Houston game were not in the middle of a 4 game home stand it would give people more time to buy tickets and get hyped for the games. I think people might have said "I can watch them next week" or "I'd rather see them play San Jose/Chivas" which resulted in 20k and 23k for the two games in the middle of the 4 home games.
     
  10. Andy_B

    Andy_B Member+

    Feb 2, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    this is a bit apples and oranges as you are both correct.


    chitrader was referring to the short term numbers, of which 4 straight LA games certainly have helped, even if they were not maxed out.

    You are referring to the more long term implications of having a bunch of home games in a row will not maximize attendance which is also true.
     
  11. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bad stats (look at the chart) and harping on stats based on some Nasty early season weather in C'Bus and NE.

    By the way, 15,000+ in Columbus over the week-end. You'll not see anything close to 6,600 again, barring a monsoon or something.
     
  12. Sachsen

    Sachsen Member+

    Aug 8, 2003
    Broken Arrow, Okla.
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My thoughts exactly; the >20k number looks pretty good so far.

    Ultimately though, I wonder how useful that number is going to be? Specifically due to Colorado being capped at 18k and Chicago right at 20k... basically the >20k number is ultimately going to = # of sellouts. Columbus, Dallas, and Toronto don't have capacities much larger than that either.
     
  13. crewfighter

    crewfighter New Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    Claddagh's Roof
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wonders how much will come this week after 15,221 came out last week.
     
  14. StarvingGator

    StarvingGator Member

    Jun 22, 2007
    The Hospital Bar
    Obviously the final numbers are going to be down because of the abscence of Beckhamania, but I think there's really positive trends here. The beginning of 2007 and 2008 both lack a headline grabber like Beckham last year, so they're comparable, and 2008 is significantly better. Factor in the small, temporary stadium issues and this is looking like a very good year.
     
  15. Simster

    Simster Member

    May 16, 2002
    London
    Club:
    Brighton & Hove Albion FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I know it's a bit late now, but I'd be interested to see how many <6k crowds we see. Every season until 2007, we were seeing a few of these - but by contrast, we've now seen a crowd of 6,600 in Columbus, and 9,000 in NY and some people are actually shocked!

    It's also worth pointing out that the announced crowd looks fairly realistic in pretty much all cases now. So when they announce a crowd of 9,000, you can bet that the crowd is at least 6 or 7,000. Certainly none of this "12,000 in NY" when a quick count suggests barely 500 are in the stadium.
     
  16. Count

    Count New Member

    Oct 7, 2007
    Chapel Hill
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All indiciations so far point in the right directions. The grassroots movements that are taking place in KC and Columbus seem to be gaining traction and will slowly rebuild the fanbase of those two clubs. A few bad weeks in the beginning, but I'm very pleased to see the total numbers for the season so far where they are.
     
  17. STpassion

    STpassion Red Card

    Apr 7, 2008
    South of Turnpike
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not so fast, in OHIO things aren't looking good at all.

    http://www.dispatch.com/live/conten...ew26.ART_ART_04-26-08_C1_D6A1MD4.html?sid=101
     
  18. crewfighter

    crewfighter New Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    Claddagh's Roof
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    what the hell is this dude's problem. That was 5 days ago before our latest attendance of 15,221. Are you a dunce. Here I got a site to check out for you.

    http://www.crewonespot.blogspot.com

    How many fans have a podcast done by fans? I think other than us TFC.

    [​IMG]

    I think we are fine diphead. Stop going around with that same article. Before our last pretty good attendance.
     
  19. EdTheRed

    EdTheRed Member+

    Feb 6, 2001
    Loose On The Town
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Cook Islands
    DC.
     
  20. crewfighter

    crewfighter New Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    Claddagh's Roof
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Make it three then. Could someone give me a link. I like listening to others, improves ours and makes us think of ways to be better.
     
  21. cleazer

    cleazer Member+

    May 6, 2003
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Perhaps you were out of town last week and missed the Week 5 attendance thread.
    Article was already discussed there.
     
  22. STpassion

    STpassion Red Card

    Apr 7, 2008
    South of Turnpike
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For starter,why don't you act like a civilized person and take in the attendance issues in a positive way for the team or for the league,instead of neg talk.
     
  23. crewfighter

    crewfighter New Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    Claddagh's Roof
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He also started a thread in MLS: General with the same info. Sounds like a big Crew fan.

    A better title for his other thread would be:
    "Crew Attendance Is Alarmingly Okay."
     
  24. EdTheRed

    EdTheRed Member+

    Feb 6, 2001
    Loose On The Town
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Cook Islands
    It's at the UnitedMania site. Here's a link to the page announcing the new date/time: http://www.unitedmania.com/section/32/content/3443

    The Screaming Eagles had a podcast the past two seasons, but I think that's been shelved for now, since Dave Lifton, the man who put it together, seems to be busy with other stuff this season, including his own very worthwhile but non-MLS-related (music, mostly) podcast and website, which is here.
     
  25. Calexico77

    Calexico77 Member

    Sep 19, 2003
    Mid-City LA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When teams suck for years on end, attendance suffers. It's no big deal. Numbers don't jump overnight, either. We've been watching our attendance erode for about 2 years now, but I think the worst of it is over.

    Columbus will be fine, if they keep winning. They're strong, they have a fan base, and they have a stadium.
     

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