Enough with the FC already!

Discussion in 'MLS: Expansion' started by frodoguevara, Mar 30, 2008.

  1. tm13

    tm13 Member

    Jan 15, 2008
    Rocky Mountains
    How rude of me. Thanks. Now we can come up with some truly great anagrams!!!

    Inter, Real, Olympique, United, Football, Club so you have IROUFC and any city initial you want to use.

    Lets start with

    "United Football Olympique Club Inter Real"

    UFOCIR U-FOC-IR

    How is that for a start? I didn't even have to put a city's initial in there. Come on people you can do better than me I know it!

    :D
     
  2. DavidP

    DavidP Member

    Mar 21, 1999
    Powder Springs, GA
    Impervious Magnificent Joyness FC :D
     
  3. DiamondsYank

    DiamondsYank New Member

    Apr 28, 2004
    NYC Metro Area

    You seem to be missing the point. FC is not a "europoser" name. It's what the team is, for God's sake.

    FC = Football Club. Is it not a football club?

    You are the prime example of the type of soccer fan in the US that MLS is confusing by marketing the FC as a moniker.
     
  4. 400lb Gorilla

    400lb Gorilla Member

    Sep 1, 2006
    Missouri
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No it's not.

    It's a soccer club.
     
  5. JoeTerp

    JoeTerp Member

    Jul 9, 2007
    USA
    I don't know if you have seen any new MLS adds but they go something like. Football. Futbl. Soccer. Whatever the name, the game is the same. So it is a football club, don't be daft.
     
  6. EstebanLugo

    EstebanLugo Member

    Mar 18, 2007
    N of your DB
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Who told you that? In Argentina, it was actually the other way around. Racing de Avellaneda existed well before they decided to put the football team's names and logos in the cars at the TC 2000 which is their higher local brand of racing.

    And I would really like to know the Car Racing Teams that Racing Santander, Lens and the Belgian one (I forgot) have.
     
  7. tm13

    tm13 Member

    Jan 15, 2008
    Rocky Mountains
    "prime example"? I don't think so. Unless being a Whitecaps fan since the 1970s and hoping for the day when a serious league would develop in NA is typical? Good to hear.

    I know what FC stands for (SC = Sports Club not Soccer Club in Europe by the way).

    My "poser" comment is directed at MLS who have a fear of all things that sound original. For gods sake the Seattle Sounders is a great name and I hope they keep it. In Europe the local football club is it for sports! In NA you have NBA, NFL and MLB so you need something other than a city name with a tag stuck on it.

    If places want to stick a FC or SC or United fine but I think a lot of the old NA names were great! I hope Philly go with the "Independence" because that is a strong tie to the city.

    So call it the Seattle Sounders FC/SC/United but the 3 they suggest are all pretty lame. I would take Alliance if I had to but some Seattle fans talked me into signing up and voting write-in for Sounders and believe it or not a Caps fan helped out some Seattle fans.

    When I think Seattle I think Sonics and Sounders (in that order), Vancouver = Canucks and Whitecaps, Toronto = Make Beliefs (but that's another story) :)

    I have nothing against sticking the tag at the end but keep the history especially when you have a great history like the Sounders do.
     
  8. DavidP

    DavidP Member

    Mar 21, 1999
    Powder Springs, GA
    Then what's the point of calling a soccer team "Racing Whatever" then? Racing what, bathtubs? Shopping carts? Wheelbarrows? Unless there is something lost in the translation, it makes no sense, which is all the more reason teams in the US should stay away from names like this. If you have to explain it, you shouldn't use it.
     
  9. RoundBallNewbie

    RoundBallNewbie New Member

    Aug 23, 2006
    DC in exile
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Perhaps horses? The things that were around and being raced when these clubs were, you know, founded and all...
     
  10. Fiorentina lives!

    May 5, 2004
    Teams called "Racing" usually started out as racing clubs back in like decades and decades ago.

    I noticed Racing Santander has a green flag (for a race start) in its shield.

    Interesting is that I do not see Japanese or Australian clubs really trying hard to sound Euro... there are some cases but it's not a league-wide thing.
     
  11. RedBulls225

    RedBulls225 New Member

    Jun 19, 2007
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    I'm pretty sure every single team in the Premier League has "FC" at the end of their name.
     
  12. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    They all do, because that's what they are. It's not part of the name.

    Games are not listed as Reading FC v Liverpool FC, Fulham FC v Chelsea FC etc
     
  13. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i hate seeing clubs in America named FC. it's like bowing down to our euro counterparts and saying we are inferior to you...will you please educate us?
     
  14. DiamondsYank

    DiamondsYank New Member

    Apr 28, 2004
    NYC Metro Area
    Huh? The international name for the game is Football. These are Football clubs. How is that bowing down to anyone or saying we're inferior?

    You do realize that soccer is derived from Association Football, right? It's not as original as you think.
     
  15. Qrom

    Qrom Member

    Oct 26, 2007
    east bay
    I'd take a plain professional "city name FC" over something that sounds like a indoor soccer team. I don't really see whats so great about having a clunky USL- NASL-comatose league name.
     
  16. cowtown

    cowtown Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 8, 2006
    Plano, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also, in America, SC means "South Carolina," so you can't just tack it onto a city in some other state without confusing the hell out of a lot of people. For those who like "AFC," it means "American Football Conference." I think this is specifically why we haven't seen any official talk of going with SC or AFC in the branding of any new teams. Prominently featuring "FC" is not necessarily the ideal scenario, but given the reality of sports in America, it is a good compromise that distinguishes a local soccer team, is a nod to tradition, leaves the fans the chance to come up with a nickname, and does it all with an abbreviation that isn't already associated with something else by the American public.
     
  17. JoeTerp

    JoeTerp Member

    Jul 9, 2007
    USA
    like you said there are a couple FC teams in Japan, just like there are a couple FC teams in America. Also Japan is wierd, a lot of their team names are based off of Spanish or Italian words and the others are founded by big manufacturing companies.
     
  18. MNAFETSC

    MNAFETSC Member

    Feb 5, 2000
    Blacksburg
    I dont think people are going to see Los Angeles SC and think theres a place called Los Angeles, SC. Give people a little credit.
     
  19. MNAFETSC

    MNAFETSC Member

    Feb 5, 2000
    Blacksburg
    I dont think people are going to see Los Angeles SC and think theres a place called Los Angeles, SC. Give people a little credit. And the few that do get confused are probably the ones who think Paris is the capital of London, so they dont matter anyways.

    Maybe we should be careful with FC as well. Someone gets a ticket with Seattle FC they may think its a plane ticket for first class eating to seattle.
     
  20. tm13

    tm13 Member

    Jan 15, 2008
    Rocky Mountains
    The survey says......

    Seattle Sounders FC

    Thank goodness they had a write in category! See you in the big league (soon I hope).

    Sounders, Whitecaps and Timbers in the MLS? 1 down, and 2 to go!
     
  21. RedBulls225

    RedBulls225 New Member

    Jun 19, 2007
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    ^That makes no sense whatsoever.
     
  22. DCU1996

    DCU1996 Member

    Jun 3, 2002
    N. VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    like sticking some random animal name after the city name?
     
  23. Bonettirulz

    Bonettirulz New Member

    Oct 25, 2007
    Alberta
    Hmmmn. So, we have several "FC" teams (which, as has already been pointed out, all the teams are... football clubs), one United (why just the one?? and didn't Garber just say there would be no more??
    :confused:

    But fear not, MLS fans... we've not yet begun to tap into that other rich Euro resource... "Rovers"...

    Who will be (the) first (six) to the counter with that one??
     
  24. loben52

    loben52 New Member

    Mar 26, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    FC is good only if the FC is not part of the daily usage of the name.

    Seattle Sounders FC aka The Sounders

    Vancouver Whitecaps FC aka The Whitecaps.

    I can understand where people are coming from.

    If we start calling teams Sporting something something or Real something something, that is plain emulating other leagues and telling the world that the way to validate the league is to copy other leagues.

    What we need is something that is natural for North American.

    We all want something to call our own. If we use SOCCER rather than FOOTBALL, I am fine with that... you know why? because the SOCCER name has a REASON, a story behind it.

    As long as the quality of play rivals that of the Europeans/Rest of the World. Then the names will automatically gain respect.
     
  25. Krebstar

    Krebstar New Member

    May 19, 2007
    Iowa
    With three FC's, I'm waiting for the head shaking moment when they add an SC on the end of a club's name.
     

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