Fire Salaries (and rest of MLS)

why is Mapp making 171k?

everytime this comes out i get sad.

The MLS should raise the cap to atleast 5 mil, its minor league that players are only getting paid 13k in some situations.

 

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Because that's roughly what he's worth?

 

Because other teams who don't know better are willing to pay him that. Unfortunately I think that the competition determines what players make rather than the contribution the player makes to the team.

 

Are you willing to pay 2.5 times the ticket price and bring an extra 10K people to the stadium?

If not, shut your hole.

 

Seriously. The billionares who own these teams didn't become rich by being stupid. Don't you think if they thought they could get a faster return on their investment by doubling the cap they would do it?

 

The value of the US dollar is depressing, but for those people insane enough to think that Frankowski was going to sign in the $70k-$120k range, his current $214k salary only comes out to 136,995 Euros, while he was looking to get 170k Euros in Poland, and much more in Spain. $120k comes out to 76k Euros, no European player will come to play for that. The maximum amount we could offer any player who is not a DP is 250k Euros, good luck getting anyone of star quality for that from over the pond. Beckham and Blanco were gotten on the cheap, I can't imagine what they would have demanded if they came to MLS this year.

 

Thats why the cap needs to be raised. That and raiding south america, and Africa.

 

The owners may be billionaires, but they didn't get that way by being stupid. Fact: Teams still do not turn a profit.
Fact: Even if they did, they would still be in the red from the past 10-12 years.
Fact: When attendance and sponsorship dollars continue to rise, the salaries will rise as well.

Be patient. The NFL did not become what it is in 12 years. It took multiple decades. Slow and steady wins the race; do we really need to revisit the pitfalls of the NASL?

 

I agree 100%.....these so called billionaire owners are not in this to lose money. they are making plenty and will continue to do so as long as they can get away with a lower salary cap. Double the cap and thus bring better players into the league creating a more competitive scenario across the board. Better talent and competition will bring more fans too. It's just like the early years of the NFL and
NBA, the owners don't give a chit about the players.......it's all about the bottom line ! It's an absolute joke what these owners pay the players. Have you ever tried to live and raise a family on $25-30,000 a year.....maybe in Mom and Dads basement !

 

Robison ($44,625) is getting robbed at gun point and Segares ($58,590) earned a raise on last night's performance alone.

It's interesting (not surprising, just interesting) that LA (20%), Chicago (10%), NY (10%), and DC (9%) account for nearly half of the leagues payroll. All of the other teams are right around 4-6%.

When you don't count the 25 or so guys who fall in the M-F, D-F or other multi-position categories, the average salary of a forward in the league is $158,275. The average salary for a midfielder is $154,094. The average salary for a defender is $76,528, and the average salary for a GK is $62,582.

...and yes, I have way too much time on my hands.

 

You tell 'em, Mark Washo!

 

Wow. You really are a smart one. Not even close to Mark Washo. I'm not a big fan of any of the "powers that be" over there.

 

Raising the cap to 5 mil doesnt mean that yuou have to spend it all. most teams dont spend the total amount now. Raising the cap would show which owners are willing to put some money into their investment.

Teams arent going to collapse if the cap is raised. They will just lag behind when it comes to the ability to sign players. The only clubs that shouldnt want the cap raised are clubs like Kansas City, Chivas, Columbus and like that dont usually spend much money, or have low attendance.

the MLS is not even close to its potential right now. The biggest reason is that when the MLS started they had absolutly stupid rules like downward counting clocks and penalty shootouts to determine ties. This did not attract the causual sports fan the MLS was looking for and alienated the hardcore soccer fans.

If they had not done that the growth were experiencing now would have happend five years ago. The problem for the MLS now is to get those eurosnobs whose only experience with the MLS was the first year., to watch the game now and to show them that the MLS is now devoted to the actual soccer fans, not casual fans.

sorry about that rant.

 

20% of the team making under $18K a year is criminal. It wouldn't break the bank to make the minimum salary $35K a year. I feel for guys like Plotkin.

Ideally the minimum should be at least $50K a year.

 

No, it wouldn't, MLS pays the salaries, so if the team uses half or all of the cap room the team owner is out the same amount of money regardless.

 

When you take Blanco (forward) and Beckham (midfielder) out of the equation, the average base salary for an MLS forward is $123,660, and the average salary of an MLS midfielder is $103,168.

 

Sigh!!! Cmon Fires fans are generally smarter than the average MLS fan. YOu cant just raise the salary cap without the revenues to justify the expense. The average player makes 115k this year. If you dont like making close to or over six figures playing soccer in the USA then try Europe.

MLS is doing it just right. raise it a little bit every year. I predict the next bump in Salary cap will happen once the RedBulls and DC are playing in their own stadiums.

 

Blanco and Beckham are skewing the average a bit. The average base salary with Blanco and Beckham is $117,300. The average base salary without Blanco and Beckham is $100,783.

Of the 333 players included in the MLS Salary figures, 120 (36%) make $33,000 or less, so if you're not an aging icon, or one of the handful of players who will crawl out of the bottom third on the compensation ladder, and you still don't like the idea of potentially earning six figures, then trying Europe is an option, if you can manage to find some club in Europe that is willing to give you a trial.

 

What percentage of those players are DEV? What is the average salary of the players not on a DEV contract?

 

Good point. The published list doesn't specifically ID DEV players, but there are 45 players earning $12,900 and another 30 players earning $17,700.

If you take the players earning $12,900 out of the equation, the average base salary is $133,612 with B&B, and $106,601 without B&B.

If you take anyone earning $17,700 or less out of the equation, the average base salary is $147,090 with B&B, and $117,019 without B&B.

 

Sega and Dasan need a raise bad. Prideaux is making more than them for chrissakes.

 

Thanks PC!

I see the MLS rosters similarly to MLB 40-man rosters. MLS teams have 18 senior squad members (Major Leaguers) and 10 men on the Developmental roster (minor leaguers) - MLB teams have 25 men on the Major League roster and an additional 15 men in their minor league system (most are AAA, some AA - rarely does a A-class player land on the 40-man). When the MLB teams submit their team salaries, only players on the major league roster are included in the total. MLS should be evaluated similarly. Yes, DEV players will appear in MLS matches, but so do AAA (and down) players in MLB. That doesn't mean they're full senior/Major League members and their salaries should be evaluated with that in mind.

 

Overpaid
Patrick Nyarko $55,000.00 $135,000.00
Bakary Soumare $70,000.00 $103,000.00
Calen Carr $50,600.00 $63,100.00
Justin Mapp $165,000.00 $171,000.0
J. Thorrington $60,000.00 $61,875.00

Underpaid
Dasan Robinson $44,625.00 $44,625.00
Gonzalo Segares $58,590.00 $61,090.00
Chris Rolfe $81,375.00 $86,075.00