Pedja: "What!? Bullshit!! This is exactly why you are not a person who interests us. You flip flop more than Pele, somebody get this man some Prozac." Seriously though, you aren't. In fact you're getting worse. Like I told you a month ago, we aren't you're psychiatrist. We aren't your doctor. We aren't you life adviser or your depression counselor.
not sure how interested you lads will be (seeing as you have far bigger fish to fry) but at the weekend i posted an update about real madrid's interest in hibernian striker steven fletcher. if you click the link you'll see highlights of hibs game at the weekend where they beat kilmarnock 2-0. fletcher(no.9) nets the second and goes close just before scoring. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/7301962.stm also, as expected, he's been named in scotland's squad for the friendly with croatia.
I disagree. We mostly need a playmaker, because Guti is getting older, Sneijder is good but sill hasn't proved to be the playmaker we need and Gago and Diarra are defensive players. So our first objective should be a player who would be in the starting 11 all the time. Then we check for back ups, we sack Salgado and get a decent replacement, preferably somebody who can play CB and RB And we need a third class striker so we can rotate up in front. So Diego and Fabiano would be top off my list, 'cause all the other top class players, the Cescs, Kaka's and Ronaldo's just aren't gonna come this way. And we don't have to search for wingers, we already have 3 good ones. OK one is always injured and we overpaid him like hell, but we have to live with Pedja's mistakes
Fabiano? Like someone's already said, we need a player like Kanoute for Fabiano to play off, otherwise he just isn't anywhere near as effective...
I am happy to see our board planning ahead for the summer transfer window, as I was disappointed w/ the injuries and lack of effectiveness vs. Roma. Our main priority is a 9. Ruud and Raul cannot continue starting every game together, their age makes this risky for their longevity throughout the season. Youth is a priority for our transfers and Pedja knows that. Pepe, Sneijder, and yes even Robben were great transfers because of their class and youthfulness, I've always thought --> class+youth = enormous potential We should not take Drogba, again Pedja knows that he is full of class, but his age does not fit our transer strategy. We are building a young team with the intention of staying atop the CL much like a decade ago. IMO Benzema is the only true 9 w/class+youth, or am I missing someone? I am skeptical about Huntelaar despite his young age. If Huntelaar is truly madridista quality why has he stayed in Holland all these years? Anyone know, does he lack pace, finishing, or something as critical?
Reporter: "Great Mija, in the Spanish Transfer thread 'Fichajes y rumores', they are discussing other interesting players, what do you think of this?" Pedja: "I determine if they are of interest or not. Run the list by me." Reporter: "Huntelaar for 35 million? Why?" Pedja: "You see, negotiation is like catching a ferocious bear in a trap. We lure Ajax to sleep with a bid of 35 million, then.. BAM!!! We hit them with the 60 million offer which they can't deny." Reporter: "Eh? Uh.. okay. They also discussed Alves for this summer, and the 'what if we purchased him last summer'. Poulsen was discussed as well." Pedja: "We have interest in Poulsen a bid of 20-30 million should do the trick. Regarding Alves? He is not a player who interests us, regardless of the necessity." Reporter: "What about Villa? Altidore? Pavlyuchenko?" Pedja: "Hmm.. good question. Villa? Impossible. Altidore? A bid of 1 euro followed by 25 million euros should do it. Pavlyuchenko? He is a player of interest, we are still trying to calculate his price." Seriously though, I know in the Spanish thread, Maca you said that bringing in Granero would "kill" the need for Diego. However we aren't sure how Granero will deal with the pressure of the Bernabéu. Just like with Alves from last year, if we'd of been safe (purchase Alves) we wouldn't be "sorry" right now. I'd rather purchase Diego and bring in Granero (although I think another year at Getafe could do him good as well), than just bring in Granero and then if Granero falters rely on Guti. Also the Huntelaar for 35 million Euros baffles me. Why pay so much for him, when we can add some more to get a future crack in Benzema?
Diego got two reds this season, both because he couldn't cope with the pressure. I see Diego as a player very similar to Guti.Won't give you much cover, and is mostly effective in a position that leaves that hard midfield work to others.What you can discuss of course, is the level of consistency. I would prefer a more work oriented midfield, possibly without the magic, but with more 'machine' like qualities.I prefer the Steven Gerrard type player to the Guti/Diego edge of the box magician.Of course, no offense to Guti, just speaking of personal preference here. I hope Granero can be a little bit of both, he seems to have picked up a decent work attitude at getafe, and that is very good to see. Replying too much on one type of player is more our problem.You can change the name of the player -if the team depends on that one player to make it happen, the team will always be stuck once he gets closed down. Because some things are not for sale...Benzema scored both goals in Lyon's Cup fixture a few days ago.Lyon know they'll be able to sell him in two years as well, so why sell him now? I'm not convinced Huntelaar is really worth 35 million though, and i would rather see it spent on an experienced player.
Thats just the price Ajax are throwing around and might not necessarily represent his value or what we are ready to pay for him.
Pedja: "Like I said before, Diego isn't a player who interests us." Consistency is the main point. Without it Guti is a hindrance to us, with it he is our crack. If we can add a player who actually can play at a high level consistently it is a plus for us. However, Pedja isn't interested so I guess this is rather meaningless. I hope so too, however us going into the season with Granero and Guti is a recipe of a repeat of this season's defensive "crisis". We didn't sign Alves and moved Ramos to RB. When injury and suspension hit us we were naked at the back and had to continually rely on Torres or Salgado. We have a completely dead right side attack as well. I'd rather be safer than sorry during CL elimination rounds. That's my opinion, don't have to agree with it. With proper negotiation it isn't impossible, however with our negotiation staff it basically is. Again, it makes no sense IMO, to pay Ajax 35 million, when Huntelaar most likely has peaked. We could pay more for Benzema (if proper negotiations were held) and actually get more for our buck. I mean, add 10 million more for Villa (although Valencia won't sell to us) and that would make more sense than that much for Huntelaar. Pedja: "Hold on.. I'm on the phone trying to haggle the price down to 50 million. My haggling worked with Drenthe, Robben and Sneijder... it WILL work again, so be at ease Madridismo faithful."
I don't agree. In the NT we don't have a Kanoute and when Luis Fabiano played for São Paulo he didn't have a partner like that either.
You make it sound like RB isn't our preferred position for Ramos? It's more like "We signed Pepe and Metzelder so that we didn't have to move Ramos to CB." Obviously we had bad luck with injuries so that didn't work out quite as well as planned. What is it about our CBs anyway--Woodgate's done great since leaving us
Actually, there have been occasions where Guti was good, but isolated, like against Sevilla for example.The same can/will happen with the same type of player, in my opinion. I've been hearing a lot of talks on the Arsenal board of them looking to offload Rosicky in the summer.A natural central midfielder (even though he's fielded in a wide position in London), affordable, experienced.Can also execute free kicks and corner kicks. I'd prefer that to the idea of signing a ridiculously expensive midfield player just because we're scared Granero might crap out due to pressure, even though Diego isn't guaranteed to be a 100% success himself. He's been on/off, injuries here, injuries there, plus, something we've discussed, is that some of his "youtube" challenges would be pretty much be fouls and possibly bookings in Spain. He's worked out great for Tottenham so far though.
It isn't my preferred position for Sergio Ramos (I am in the much maligned Ramos at CB camp). I think Alves would give the right side a completely different look than Ramos does. Alves brings more skill; Ramos brings more tenacity. As much as I love Sergio Ramos (remember, I was very vocal about pursuing him - probably moreso than anyone else) but I don't think he impacts the game offensively the way Alves does... and I don't know that Ramos ever will. BTW, I am the one that brought up Altidores in the Spanish thread. I don't know how interested we are in him, but I would love to take a chance on him. I think someone said his price tag was about $5 million (can someone confirm?). If that is the case, I see him as someone worth investing in. I have only seen him with the full national team once and he didn't have a ton of touches in that one, but I liked what I saw (he did score a goal). He seems to have a good football IQ. Maybe we can get Altidore to marry Calderón's daughter? BRILLIANT!
Alves, Ramos, Pepe, Metze, Canna, Hienze, Torres, Salgado, Marcelo and Opare in Castilla So assuming the club is able to get Alves...who goes, who stays? Is another CB needed (Garay/Caceres) if Ramos is moved over to play CB? Canna and Hienze aren't getting any younger. Will Metze be reliable for next season (or even beyond that)? Hopefully Torres is a no-brainer and is let go at the end of this season. Do we keep Salgado? He could prove useful for CdR matches. I like the idea of Ramos to CB. If he's moved there for next season he could learn a lot more from Canna as far as really commanding the back line. Next season is Canna's last with us I think and then he'll probably be off to Napoli. It might be a useful idea to have rotations between these two. They'll both be somewhat exhausted from the Euros this summer and they've been (up until Sergio's suspensions) are two most played players this season. I don't know, but if Alves is going to be a high target for next season I think these will be some of the things the coaching staff and Mija will have to consider.
I am very high on Granero because he is not only a good playmaker but he does the dirty work like track back and defend. He looks like a very good fit for Guti's current position in the squad. You wouldn't be able to play Diego so far back in the midfield...that would be playing him out of position.
LOL On Alves, yes he is a fantastic player but man he would be a pain in the ass to watch play for us with his antics. That's really the only thing I don't like about him (and this applies to Fabiano as well...well most of the Sevilla team actually). I really wish there was another RB out there who was not such an asshole more or less. 4x4, that sounds like a good idea than we could actually play Wesley as an AMC, our 3 man midfield would look very good.
What goes on in the Spanish thread stays in the Spanish thread. Shame on you. Difficult...a lot will depend on the player himself...and he is not a happy bunny at the moment. Difficult but not impossible. What i actually said was of all the forwards being mentioned in the press, i would chose Villa every time. We do not know how Diego would cope with the pressure either and i have the feeling Granero would understand the pressures involved better than most. Add to that the fact that I don't see Diego as able to play the midfielder role (as opposed to mediapunta) that Guti has been playing(with the problems concerning tracking back that this brings) ...while Granero can. With Granero, I don't see Diego as a necessity.
I say get rid of Guti and Baptista, and get both Diego and Granero. If this season is any indication, they will both get enough games. Seriously, we REALLY need to think about letting Guti go, he'll be 32 in October and it's all downhill from there.
I dont agree with the pairing of Canna and Ramos in CB...i would have Pepe and Ramos any day of the year. Pepe has been our star signing this year when fit. The guy is a beast in CB...make runs and commits players to give players like robbie the space to move in... This is the defence for next year IMO Alves..........Ramos...............Pepe...............Marcelo/Heinze IMO the players we need are ALVES, DIEGO, VILLA/BENZIMA/ZLATEN IBRAHIMAVICH???? I know its a bit out there, but if we do a swap with Diarra or swap plus cash, i would do it!
Does anyone know what is going on with VDV this summer....after all the hoopla last summer...he is still in Germany
@ laudrup No arguments over Baptista. Guti has carried us through a number of games this season and i accept disappeared in others.While I accept age is the issue at the heart of your point, Guti has on balance done a lot more this season than many (admittedly younger)others we would not consider selling. In all honesty if Granero comes back and performs as he can, I don't see Guti keeping him out of the team...unless we get the 'Guti at his best' version...and I don't think anyone would complain at that. However I see no reason to talk about removing a player, especially one who has proved many times he can make the difference, from the squad.