Real Madrid C.F. vs Valencia C.F. | Liga |23-03-08[R]

Which is why I'll leave this forum the minute Maca, -FC- or Alma(when he's angry) leave.

 

If we want to be champion we have to be able to win these matches, Sevilla in full strength could be a draw, and still would be good, but this Valencia, even without a player or three we have to beat them.

I'm kinda wondering if Schusters decisions to not give Soldado much playing time will turn out against him, because a player without any confidence stepping up to the task will be very difficult, but had he already got some more playing time maybe it would've been different.

Anyway for that reason alone I would pick Higuain above Soldado now.

If we still get La Liga this season with all of our injuries this season would be more then succesfull in my opinion.

 

Just a reply about my "aggression".

It's just that if there isn't anybody as arrogant (Maca), funny (-FC-) or blunt (Alma) as me, I would stop posting.

Oscar doesn't post that much anymore so he doesn't count.

Quite addicting.

You'd be shocked at how many people have asked me "WTF are you doing", when they see me glued on my laptop.

 

We don't necessarily have to beat any of them, considering how bad barca is playing as well.

It would however be good for confidence so it would most definitely be a positive.

I was thinking the same thing.

I know Higuain's had chances (although not enough as the "third" should), but has struggled in front of the goal. However Soldado and Saviola had barely any, they're so out of form they most likely won't be a "help" or positive for us.

This goes back to the "Schuster should of spread out minutes" argument. However there are so many variables to consider (Ruud/Raul don't want to sit, backups didn't impress during training, injuries, bad form early on, etc.) that you can't possibly blame or point the finger at any situation.

I'd pick Higuain over Soldado, because he has more experience playing alongside Raul. Plus he won't run into the same areas as Raul, like Soldado did.

People forget we weren't suppose to even lead La Liga. As I remember the Four Fantasticos were suppose to take the world by storm.

We had a new coach with a new side, winning the league (just like last year) is actually a BIG plus.

Also, if we do manage to win, we'd of been back to back La Liga winners. Don't think that's too shabby... eh?

 

No, it's true we don't have to beat them. But it's all about the way you look at it off course, considering we would lose major confidence by losing points against Valencia, I then don't see us winning against Sevilla. And if we wouldn't win again we just wouldn't be playing good anymore, and then it would be a crisis in the press.

To be honoust we just need some good play again, some dominant football with a bunch of chances. But off course it would be better to take the 6 points with some ugly football maybe.

And yeah, about Soldado, maybe you can't blame Schuster, but on the other hand, rotation is a part of modern football, we already knew at the beginning of the season that it would be a risk, because if you count so much on 2 strikers, off course you're gonna get in trouble if one gets injured.

Maybe Soldado would have been better when we got further in the Copa, maybe Saviola could have been an option if he wasn't injured that much, but Real sure took a big enough risk with the policy of almost only playing Ruud an Raul and not to buy anybody in the winter period.

At least you can maybe say it was a gamble that went a little bit wrong. Cause I kinda saw this coming...

But hell I hope Higuain or Soldado grab their chance, I would love to see them young guys still succede here.

 

I'm a big fan of Saviola but do you guys really think he could help us at this point?

Technically, he's a really good player, but he's probably lost a bit of motivation, could do more harm than good.

Higuain first choice?

 

What's going on with Saviola these days? Last time I read about him I think he was injured or something but this was quite some time ago. Is he still injured?

 

Saviola is fine, he hasn't played due to coaching decisions, and rightfully so he sabotaged the copa del rey for us.

Speaking of Copa del Rey, Valencia will play Barcelona tomorrow. And the good news about this....well this is the only thing Valencia has to play for, besides avoiding relegation , thus they will be playing their tails off. Good news for our matchup this Sunday. I'm going to say we triumph against a fatigued Valencia side.

I'd rather see Baptista behind Raul, and Higuain behind Raul as a sub. Either way Soldado should see more time because he is clearly favored over Saviola.

 

winning formula

--------------casillas-------------------
-ramos----pepe------canna-----heinze-
---------------diarra-------------------
---------------gago--------------------
-sneijder----------------------robinho--
---------higuin-------raul---------------
subs babtista, guti, drenthe 60-70 min

losing formula
--------------casillas-------------------
-ramos----pepe------canna-----heinze-
---------------gago-------------------
---------------guti--------------------
--------sneijder--------------robinho--
---------higuin-------raul---------------

too narrow
subs soldado babtista diarra 80+ min

 

First of all dont me call me imature, and I am a teenager. But this teenager will wip you to shreads. Now i will tell you why soldado is a peace of......

First thing first is that every one says that he has potential.... blah...blah; he doesnt poses any potential he's 22 years old for crying out loud, finding some potential at the age of 20 and 21 is just pure stupidity at modern day football. He does have some potential, That I have to say, the fact that he managed to score eleven goals last year is a blessing for osasouna but still 11 goals for a box striker at the age of 22 isnt good enough for us(being the biggest club in the world REAL MADRID), now thats is the problem he has potential to play for clubs like osasouna, getafe, maybe zaragoza(but then agian they already have diego milito and ricardo oliveira) so yeah compared to madrid he sucks. And whats even worse is that the number 9 (Ronaldo's prev number) is much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much
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bigger than him. maybe the number 69 is better suited for him.

 

????????????? No idea wat you just said, but ithink it has something that only a bigsoccer member knows or a old hag.

 

That was damn bloody tough to read..

Anyway, this game strikes me as a really tricky game. Yeah, Valencia is going through a bad patch, but so are we. We've seen in the Deportivo game that we couldn't create a single attack despite having over 65% of the possession, which to be honest is very worrying. Maybe it's because Saldado and Raul didn't share the chemistry Raul and Ruud share since it's their first time starting together, and the fact that Deportivo parked an airplane infront of goal, but it still doesn't take away the fact that our attacks were clueless and out of place.

I hope Higuian starts this game along side Raul. Higuian, to me, shows more passion, and he seems to be the kind of player that can do something spectacular he gets the stuffs right, and like some have said, he played with Raul before and has better understanding with him.

On the bright side of things is Valencia having to play against Barcelona this week, which will definitely take a lot of energy out of their players. Ups for us! Also, with Robinho back in to help in our attacks, I'm sure this game will be have something more to cheer about than the Depor game. I hope Gago gets the start too. Guti's "I don't give a damn attitude" at some times causes us to lose a lot of ground. At least Gago is willing to fight for the ball. I'm not saying Guti doesn't, because we all saw what happened against Getafe, Guti was one of the few that ran all the way back, but sometimes he just gives up.

There is a lot to fight for in this game for both teams, but being the optimistic me, I'm obviously seeing us to win this game, maybe even a 3-1 victory. Robinho's brace with accompanied with a Raul goal.

And no, I'm not watching this game...I think.......

 

His post has made this thread quite a chore to read. Stretched the page quite a lot...

 

Ahh at last....new page....less pressure to my eyeball here...

 

cocaine is a hell of a drug.

 

Okay lets just put the past behind us, and lets be madridista's, because it doesnt matter were your from or were what your colour is a madridista's shouldn't fight about dum things like this. Although my perception about of Gago and Soldado will never change, they just arn't Madrid material, fol stop(and i have my freedom of speach to say something like that). but for now lets focus on the valencia match.

It's going to be very tough for a number of reasons. 1. They will come into the pitch for one thing and that is Vengence, since we destroyed them last time.

Secondly, we have to forget about the away game because if the madridista's will probably say something like "huh, we beat them last time 5-0, we'll even beat them more in the home game" so they cant get big headed and start mocking around.

thirdly, lets not forget that coeman had the heads up that he might be sacked, so this is his chance to prove every one wrong, which he will try his hardest to do.

All in all madrid have to take this seriously and they have to play the game with quick pace, because they will come after a hard bacelona(AKA the pigs) tired hence they will play a defencive game with counter atacks(to avoid another emarising defeat.

 

What occurred on the last page is trolling, no?

Yellow card...

or a section ban?