I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but here I go. Did anyone else notice the gang of CSC knuckleheads that surrounded the Barra after regulation time was over last night? WTF?? There was still play going on, on the field. While there were a few folks standing on chairs (a bone breaking offense), all the Barra did was jump and cheer all night. There were no fireworks, smokebombs, fighting, objects thrown, etc.... The only thing that saved things from getting out of hand was the key foresight of McOwen asking MPD to babysit the goons. Unless something happened that I didn't see, it looks like the jackbooted thugs are showing there posteriors again. Sad. Sorry for the rant, but we had made progress with these guys. I guess it's back to the way things were last year.
Well we deserve it guys... We all know what type of people are in the Barra.... (?!?!) --You know I actually saw people smoking cigarettes in the SE's and Barra! Oh. The humanity!!! Remember, you guys deserve what you get. Just make sure you "get it" well documented and with plenty of witnesses. p.s. having Metropolitan Police readily admit to me that CSC employees can't be trusted to sit the right way on a toilet doesnt exactly instill confidence in Lenny's gang does it?
Oh, and for those that might have missed them... I would like to see CSC explain why they needed 8 guys behind a section when there were 9,000 people in the stadium, no ejections, fights, firecrackers, or serious incidents (other then smoking...) in the section. Just for the record, this picture was taken during the PK's. There were two more CSC guys to the right of this photo. The CSC morons had come down to the section to "position themselves" by blocking the Barra's exit at the end of the game. I over heard them pointing out specific people they were going to "f$%^ up." That is when I went to the Metro Police officers and asked them to come up to the top of the section. Good times...
Haven't we had problems with #2094 before? I seem to recall a match where he stood at the base of the aisle between the Barra and the Nest and generally made some poor decisions that resulted in Oscar getting hauled away...
I noticed the CSC employees vigorously enforcing the no smoking policy Wednesday. And while I noticed the police coming over near the end of the match, I didn't notice the CSC people. As I sit in 136, and do not usually feel the "hassle" from CSC other than the occasional "don't sit on the rail" at halftime, I wouldn't want me or my girlfriend (or for that matter, anyone) to get caught up in a CSC raid. By the looks of that picture, I believe they have crossed some sort of line, and I would volunteer to contact the Stadium Authority to express these sentiments if no one else has already. Thx, Jay!
I don't know what good it'll do Jay but your welcome to email or call them. And yes Revelation, #2094 is that same guy. Like I said, I thought we had made some serious progress with CSC, but I guess there memory is about as long as there.............. I just hope someone from United has read this and can do something about this kind of harassment. I know the rules on smoking and chair standing, but do those offenses warrent lining up 8 or so goons to block our exit and picking out fans in the section to "f*** up" as they exit the match?? At some point people are going to get fed up with this kind of treatment and either quit coming to games, or worse, a small riot will break out. If the latter happens everybody loses. By nature, people can only take so much of this treatment before things get ugly.
Maybe they were dissappointed Blackburn fans? no? Ummmm. Soccer purists who don't think that a friendly should go to PK's?. OK. A bunch of goons who think that a cheap yellow shirt gives them some kind of connection to Tom Ridge and the future of humanity is in their hands.
you know it would be kinda funny if we made up some shirts to look just like them. Could you imagine the confusion they'd have?
Cool, thanks Stephen. I was kind of upset with the strickness of the Goon Squad after the 90 minutes also. Before heading down to La Norta to watch the PKs, I wanted to introduce my girl to some of my pals in the Barra section, but they wouldn't let me in, even though I'm a card carrying member. Seems to be kind of over kill that dampens to mood at times. I really think that Barra should bust out the alternate jerseys. That would be great, especially if it were, say, during one of our New Jersey games where they'd be more likely to to come out of the holes they hide in.
Isn't the tall guy in the photo over Vlad's shoulder Uday Hussein? So much for him getting shot in Iraq. Figures CSC would hire him, though; he really knows how to f*@% up soccer players...
i don't know if that's uday but the fat ************stick to "uday"'s left i am pretty sure is the dude who got his butt kicked by the skinny asian dude in the nathan's hot dog eating contest. i thought the whole evening funny--first those three guys did their little march around and the dude that looks like he has chromosome issues (i am unsure if it is through family intermarriage or some sort of exposure to radioactive material or some combination there of) was definitely the leader of the crew (maybe he is lenny lambert's mutant son/nephew) and has been angling towards this for a couple weeks now. after they did there little march arounds, mutant boy sat by the grass area and waited for us to walk in and then held his arms out and I guess in the spirit of being in DC game me a "countrified 'what's up' wannabe hardcore challenge". unfortunately at that moment dave brother started laughing at him and spit his beer out, pretty much undermining the ferocity of our favorite yellowshirt. i guess i also forgot to be intimidated by their "riot line" there at the end of the match. until this thread started i hadn't even thought of it.
Well, the Barra COULD use a "third kit". That would be a riot!! Well, riot may be the wrong choice of words
Thank you Stephen, really. I know you may get tired of hearing about this kinda stuff, but this is the first time they have positioned themselves to- as one of us heard them say- f*** up certain people in our group. We try to comply with all the rules, but in the heat of a match, well things happen. All minor in nature. I hope you can nip this in the bud. I know the come-back from them will be that people were breaking the rules. Well, do a few cigarettes and standing on a chair warrant the riot line. I mean, look at the picture posted earlier! While you're at it Mr. Zack, could you ask them what the hell is up with the metal guard rails they position at each entrance to the seating area? I am in the process of checking with DCFD on potential code violations. Those things are a hazzard. Thanks for all your help.
There seems to be more friction between CSC and the fans on these low attendance games... I guess with good reason in some cases. It's hard not to be noticed smoking when you are the only one on the row! Same on any number of other rules. There was one guy who rather than just putting his cigarette out, choose to taunt security. You're never going to win in a situation like that. I don't think that kind of response made the situation any better. There was also an unnamed individual who had one leg over the metal rail as if he was about to jump out onto the field. I can't remember whether this was in the same timeframe as the goon squad positioning themselves behind the section. Was CSC expecting a mass rush onto the field? If so, it would have been better to position themselves on the track below the section rather than above it. I wonder if there are still some that don't realize there is a no smoking rule. Certainly anyone on Big Soccer should know by now. I thought there was general agreement that the cigarettes would be put out if security asked (and lit right back up after they leave! ). For sure there is uneven enforcement, but I think Wednesday night was kind of like being the only car on the road speeding past a radar trap... whereas other games are like speeding on the Beltway at rush hour... not a chance of being caught!
CSC dork #2094 needs to be unemployed. This guy has been provoking trouble alot recently. We will not put up with his crap much longer. Also does the CSC have any right to be out in the parking lot? These characters were out there trying to provoke something. Believe me we can defend ourselves, read what you want into that.
Damn Begs, I told you we should've gone to the titty bar instead of the CSC meeting. Sure as hell wouldn't have been a waste of time. Hey Lenny, if you're reading this thread drop me a line. I can read back all the points we covered in the meeting to you. BTW....the 90 year granny CSC'er scared me more than those other jacknuts.....
yeah ole chromosome boy has pretty much torn it with me too. i don't have a problem with them enforcing rules--all i ask for is consistency. but what that cat was doing on wednesday wasn't rule enforcement, it was provoking an incident. he came down to the tailgate to instigate trouble and that's it.
I think that #2094 was the one who tried to pick a fight with me after the Metro game. I was taking down my banners when one of the CSC guys told me to get out of the stadium. Since I was still busy taking down my banners (and generally in a bad mood) I yelled back "no!" This led him to summon his supervisor and several other CSC goons, and we started yelling at each other. When this was all over and it was time to go, I turned around to leave, and Mr. #2094 was right in my face. (Police 101: surround the troublemaker without them realizing your surrounding them.) Of course I nudged him; he was right on top of me. He immediately made a very contrived motion backwards, like he was saying "hey, watch out boy" and "ya wanna go?" at the same time. It was a clear and very cheap and amateurish provocation. Instead of falling for it, I asked him why he was in my way as I was trying to leave. That was about the end of the confrontation, and I left. After this, instead of seething in silence, I sought out one of the CSC supervisors, Carol (?) I think. She was quite reasonably listening to me and my complaint, and to me at least she realized that some of these guys are problem children. She took down a report. It takes me about fifteen minutes to take down all of my banners. Sometimes I get rushed by CSC, some times I don't. This is the first time it escalated into something where more than one of them were involved. Although I know these guys want to go home I don't really appreciate being chased out of RFK all the time. I don't expect them to appreciate (or even read) my banners, but I resent having to put up with these people, especially when (a) I'm a season ticket holder, and have been, off-and-on since 1996 and (b) I'm doing something which is a long-standing tradition among soccer supports and am trying to add to the atmosphere in the stadium. And what this #2094 guy (if in fact it's the same punk) tried to do was cheap and unexcusable. It was clear that he was picking a fight. And if he needs to get his aggro-jollies by kicking the posterior of 42-year old fat guys like myself, that's just plain sad.
I wasn't sure if posting that pic was the "right thing to do" but seeing that OTHER people have also had issues with CSC goons like #2094 I feel much better about doing it. It goes to show that the people that claim "it's just the drunken supporters" getting grief and that deserve it, are full of $hit. CSC can go after anyone and can/eventually will. They are hacks and we should voice our concerns. thanks for the post.
Wow, while I'm sure that the CSC event staff are not always wrong, it appears they have quite a bad track record. That's the kind of stuff that can make the organization lose fans. That's bad enough, but its worse when its loyal fans from supporter's groups who love the club. They shouldn't have to put up with that. I just don't want to see it come to that stage, if it hasn't already. Thanks for reading into the concerns Mr. Zack. It doesn't suprise me at all as you have a great relationship with the supporters.