Should Barcelona Fire Almeida???

Discussion in 'Ecuador' started by BigSoccer Bot, Dec 7, 2007.

  1. BigSoccer Bot

    BigSoccer Bot I am not real.

    Feb 25, 2005
    El técnico Ever Hugo Almeida presentó su renuncia en El Nacional, equipo en el quedo bi-campeón en los años 2005 y 2006.
    Como ya es conocimiento de todos, Almeida se mudará a la ciudad de Guayaquil para dirigir al cuadro de Barcelona en la temporada 2008.


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  2. SurOscura

    SurOscura New Member

    Nov 11, 2007
    Almeida y Barcelona

    Q bueno es el tecnico Almeida? I saw the games when he was in El Nacional and I dont like his style. Today he spoke of how upset he was that Hurtado has permission to come late to preseason practice. I remember he made a big deal about kaviedes and quiroz having international games. I hope he does not make issues considering that Barcelona's players are basically mainly made up of national players.
     
  3. LDU4ever

    LDU4ever Moderator
    Staff Member

    Liga de Quito
    Ecuador
    Nov 21, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Re: Almeida y Barcelona

    I've always heard that Almeida likes to play the pelotazo game...I don't even know what that truly constitutes but he's a pretty good coach...
     
  4. yoryi

    yoryi Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    Boogie Down BRONX!
    Re: Almeida y Barcelona

    Hurtado is a fool to leave a squad who was going to play La Libertadores,with a good chance to make it very far in the tournament.To play for barcelona para nada mas disputar el campeonato ecuatoriano.Que gil es ese man!
    :mad:
     
  5. Ladic

    Ladic Member

    Jul 19, 2005
    Guayaquil
    Re: Almeida y Barcelona

    Hurtado has played plenty copa libertadores, the guy is old and needs to make as much money as possible before he retires.

    Almeida has always played "El Pelotazo" in El Nacional, but never had many technically gifted players either as he does have now in Barcelona.

    It will be interesting to see what he can do.
     
  6. yoryi

    yoryi Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    Boogie Down BRONX!
    Re: Almeida y Barcelona

    Hurtado already has money coming out his azz,but it would have been nice to watch him play for Ath.Nacional.
    I have never seen Almeida's team play al pelotazo,in fact los equipos del man siempre an tenido buen trato del balon.
    And the "gifted players" you are talking about,he already coached them,,like I said before el barcelche looks more like El Nacho.
    And ecuadors evil empire is already falling apart,,,Jorge Guagua,,,primera baja!
     
  7. Ladic

    Ladic Member

    Jul 19, 2005
    Guayaquil
    Re: Almeida y Barcelona

    Guagua is out 6 weeks, el campeonato is still 4 weeks aways, so he wont be out more than 2 - 4 games.
    I would hardly call that falling apart. That is also a reason Barcelona got so many players, if Guagua is out then Castro can step right in.

    El Nacional has never had "buen trato del Balon" under almeida.

    Of course almeida has had many gifted players like Valencia, Benitez, Castillo or Lara.

    But you can't compare their "Technique" with a player such as Chelo Delgado.

    And nothing wrong with getting many players from a same team, if anything it will help that they have played together before, you might be too young to remeber that Barcelona did the same in the 80s and 90s with Filanbanco and Valdez.
     
  8. yoryi

    yoryi Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    Boogie Down BRONX!
    Re: Almeida y Barcelona

    If you say so,but at least the games I've watched Nacional play under Almeida,I have not seen juegos de pelotazos.Chelo Delgado is a hell of a baller,so is Zarate,,but their game is not what is used to be,like 5 years ago in Boca and Velez repectivamente.Estos ballers have been around the seven seas and they come to Ecuador a dejar lo "poquito" que les queda.Hopefully todo les salgan bien,cause look at how many great "estrellas" an llegado a barceleche and have never performed up to their expectations y se van "estrellados" con billete.
    And don't forget who you to talk to buddy,"i'm to young to remember Filanbanco and Valdez FC" hahaha,,,of course I remember these clubs,,,Filanbanco was practically the barceleche squad who was vice campeon de la Libertadores in 1990.My boys David"cholo" Bravo,Julio Guzman,Robert Macias played their.I play against Cholo Bravo when I go to vacation in Ecuador,I played along side Guzman when I almost went pro with el Green Cross,and Robert Macias is one of my drinking buddies.Also de ese equipo salieron Wilson Macias,Jimmy Izquerido(RIP) and Freddy Bravo(who I also meet)Raul Aviles,Luis Capurro and others I can't recall at this time.As for el Valdez,thats where El Tanque Hurtado was discovered and a good friend of mine Ruperto Olives played for them as well.In my closet I still have the warm up suit he used for las concentraciones,el man me la regalo.
     
  9. barcelonista1981

    May 16, 2007
    GUAYAQUIL
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Hello, before any comments are posted let me just make clear That I am a die-hard barcelonista and 4 year old club member and that I love this team more than I love un ceviche mixto y una pilsener. but I can't help but start worrying about this team, today was our 4th game we barely won against Macara a team that was one point away from going to second division last year.we know for sure the players are top notch, here in Ecuador people are going to the stadium and giving support. I know that this is a new team but man! at least if they show some ray of hope in their game but other than Sessa,Castro, Ivan Hurtado Quiroz and Palacios. this team is not showing anything. I mean come on this is the year that we are supposed to win the championship, qualify to sudamericana and libertadores but going with what we've seen I dont think we can make it to Liguilla. as you all know coaches are always the easiest blaming option so Let me get your opinions SHOULD ALMEIDA GET FIRED!!!
     
  10. Guayaquileño

    Guayaquileño Member

    Dec 3, 2006
    New York City
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think so. But I am worried though just as you are... but then again .. this is a completely different team and the guys need to get used to each other...
     
  11. SurOscura

    SurOscura New Member

    Nov 11, 2007
    One answer.....


    YES!!!!!!!!!!

    I hate almeida. he seems like such a sell out. get someone new with some experience outside ecuador
     
  12. barcelonista1981

    May 16, 2007
    GUAYAQUIL
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Look If the case was that the team seems unfamiliar with each other but if at least there was a base I would be a lot more relaxed, But Almeida doesn't seem to have a clue of what his starting team is supposed to be, I mean why can't he do a simple formation like 4-4-2 but NO!!!, He's gotta try his 3-4-1-2 I mean WHAT ARE WE FREAKING REAL MADRID???, also wasn't he clear when he said the if he was to coach barcelona that he MUST have Castro, De Jesus, Hidalgo and Quiroz, well god damn! why isn't he playing half of those guys, ahhrggh what can i say? I don't like the guy.
     
  13. LDU4ever

    LDU4ever Moderator
    Staff Member

    Liga de Quito
    Ecuador
    Nov 21, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    is he playing the pelotazo???

    cuz some people said he was'nt the best coach for using that method of gameplay...
     
  14. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The tourney hasn't even started yet and people are already calling for his head. Let the team get a chance to play together and little by little it will become obvious which the starting 11 should be.

    Just because there are 11 quality players on the field does not mean that Barcelona is beyond the building phase. It's going to take time. Whoever expected this to come together like magic after 4 friendlies should stop living in La-la land.

    I am worried too, but the building process is far from over! The blocks are all there, now they just have to see how they an make them fit!
     
  15. barcelonista1981

    May 16, 2007
    GUAYAQUIL
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I'm just afraid that by the time Almeida finds the way to play and start winning we are going to be 6th or 7th place and 8-9 points behind the leaders, which already happened to us with the Bernuncio-Cubilla mess, when the team finally started playing better the apertura was almost over.
     
  16. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Thats why this has to be looong term. I don't want to see them build a team that can win a few games at the beginning and then make it in the top 3 but a team that can be solid enough that will be a contender for the next 4 years.
     
  17. barcelonista1981

    May 16, 2007
    GUAYAQUIL
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Yes that would be nice, but I don't know if you are aware that Barcelona didn't buy all these players as a matter of fact A lot of them are loans, for example Zura is a six month Loan, Castro, Quiroz are loans with a purchase option, Lara is also a loan, Palacios and F. Hidalgo only have a one year contract same as Guagua. and Chelo Delgado's contract expires in mid-2008. thats why I would really like for the coaching team to take advantage of the team they have Now! I mean didn't Fossatti make Liga win his first apertura when he had 11 new players? Let's be honest Almeida has a team that any coach in Ecuador can onlydream of having, and they look crappy.
     
  18. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I am sure you have seen many teams that on paper, look like the winning 11. It's going to take more than just the players and their reputations. Almeida will have the fortune of working with big named players, but he also has the misfortune of working with big named players...now it is mostly a matter of seeing how he can control their egos and put them to good use. So far, it hasn't happened. Technically skilled, they are, but let's see who is in charge and is able to make them work at 110%.

    Also, it's great that a lot of them are on loan. Think about it...when 2 or 3 or even more of them just fail, we won't be stuck with them on our hands. I guarantee you half of these punks will be going home halfway down the season. It is by then, to the very least, I'd prefer much much sooner, that Almeida should have an idea of knows who the untouchable starting line up is!!!!!!!!!
     
  19. barcelonista1981

    May 16, 2007
    GUAYAQUIL
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Well. I just finished watching the Barcelona-Manta firts half as if watching iy trough Teleamazonas isn't bad enough we playing like crap again although there's some improvement specially in defense also Chelo Delgado finally came in and he looks great.
     
  20. yoryi

    yoryi Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    Boogie Down BRONX!
    The reason why barceleche didn't look like Real Madrid,Chelsea,or Boca Jrs,was because El Manta,had a very decent squad.
    So far it was the best examinador(besides the colombian squad) they had so far,and member they could have lost this game if it wasn't for the penalty kicks they missed.
    I still wonder how the hell El Manta,with that game didn't get promoted to la serie A,,WTF
    Hopefully this year!
     
  21. f_e_f 4life

    f_e_f 4life New Member

    Nov 10, 2005
    I think almeaida wasn't da best opcion because that guy loves to play the ofside trap...n he fukn plays carlos hidalgo..that guy sux...I'd rather see alex bolanos even tho he might get a red card...n he should play mike rodriguez his da best juvenile they have...n I rather see edmundo zura instead of danny vera...
     
  22. Ladic

    Ladic Member

    Jul 19, 2005
    Guayaquil
    carlos hidalgo esta jugando en un excelente nivel.
     
  23. f_e_f 4life

    f_e_f 4life New Member

    Nov 10, 2005
    You probably mixing up the hidalgos....know fernando is a good all around player...of the best in the friendlys...
     
  24. barcelonista1981

    May 16, 2007
    GUAYAQUIL
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Actually Carlos Hidalgo is playing better, as a matter of fact the whole team is, they had a Really good second half against Tecnico Universitario, anyway we are still loooong way from where we want to be, But Almeida keeps on making ridiculous decisions, [playing quinones a 15 year old kid over mike rodrigues], I also agree that we should be seeing more of Zura.
     

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