Brad Guzan Denied Work Permit

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by ScottyB10, Jan 20, 2008.

  1. CaliManU

    CaliManU New Member

    Jul 4, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Re: Brad Guzman? to Celtic...

    Feilhaber got it upon appeal this past summer.
     
  2. mcnaulty21

    mcnaulty21 Member

    Feb 6, 2007
    Wisconsin
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Brad Guzman? to Celtic...

    I think the fact that the US is known for producing quality 'keepers should help.
     
  3. Friedel'sAccent

    Friedel'sAccent Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Providence, RI
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Brad Guzman? to Celtic...

    But I wonder if that was just the "rounding up" clause...

    I always thought he won his appeal because the board realized he was always already eligible for a Hungarian passport.

    It doesn't seem, at first glance, that the board took "exceptional talent" into account in either instance.
     
  4. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Re: Brad Guzman? to Celtic...

    For the record, after Saturday night's game, Guzan has five caps.

    However, of those 5, only 1 wasn't a friendly and the Home Office doesn't count friendlies. So, he only has one cap that matters towards the work permit.

    In the previous two years, the US has played threee World Cup games, 6 Gold Cup games and three Copa America games. So Guzan has played one of 12 games that the H.O. would consider.

    Anyone think they'll round up 66.5 percent?;)

    Agreed.

    Unless they know he'll qualify as an exceptional talent - entirely possible given his talent and the way US GKs are regarded in the UK - there's no way he gets this based on the usual standards.
     
  5. green94

    green94 Member

    Jan 1, 2007
    Minneapolis
    Club:
    Hamburger SV
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Brad Guzman? to Celtic...

    I think Howard's exception came because Hungary was to become an EU nation shortly after the WP process and he was awarded one because he'd qualify when they joined the EU anyway. So basically, they decided not to be dicks and not make Timmeh wait until the EU thing went through anyway...

    As for Benny, I guess BB's endorsement and that Benny qualifies for* a Austrian passport must have helped. Otherwise, it seems strange looking back because those aren't battles that bottom dwellers and promoted teams usually win at the Home Office.

    *I think
     
  6. ChcgoStingInMyBlood

    Jun 15, 2005
    Re: Brad Guzman? to Celtic...

    Thanks for all the responses, I'm definitely more educated now. I hadn't considered that goalkeepers would be looked at differently, and also hadn't realized that Howard and Benny got exceptions, I thought both had some sort of relative tie-in.

    I was kinda hoping he would go to Spain or the EPL, but maybe Celtic is the best option, he'll get his experience and then move on.
     
  7. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Re: Brad Guzman? to Celtic...

    He qualifies under the "most valuable gem" clause.
     
  8. dustcowpoke

    dustcowpoke Member

    Jan 7, 2006
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Brad Guzman? to Celtic...

    Maybe in a bid to get him a Spanish passport Celtic have renamed him Brad "Guzman".
     
  9. Scorpion26

    Scorpion26 Member

    May 1, 2007
    NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Re: Brad Guzman? to Celtic...

    How likely is this move going to happen during this Transfer window?

    And I do think Guzan will cherish the fact that he will get the chance to play CL games. By next year if Boruc does move in the summer, and Guzan should do fine for Celtic. Let's hope to see Beasley back in form, and trying to score against Guzan. Big rivalry game, and two American might be in it next year.
     
  10. leppercut

    leppercut Member+

    Oct 10, 2006
    SLC and Anchorage
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Brad Guzman? to Celtic...

    I thought that there was some 'thing" that being a backup GK helped for the permit, because he can't play a lot.
     
  11. vfb_fan

    vfb_fan Member

    Oct 8, 2007
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Re: Brad Guzman? to Celtic...

    Here is a paragraph about guzan in a mexican newspaper(but it's in spanish so i'm going to translate it):

    http://www.laopinion.com/deportes/futbol/?rkey=00000000000003091780

    Finalmente se confirmó la presencia del arquero de Chivas USA, Brad Guzan, en Glasgow, Escocia, donde aparentemente negocia su pase al Celtic de quel país, equipo con el que entren actualmente.

    Finally is confirmed that Chivas USA goalkeeper Brad Guzan,is in Glasgow, Scotland where he apparently is negotiating his transfer to Celtic, CURRENTLY he is training with them.
     
  12. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Brad Guzman? to Celtic...

    Guzan is better and cheaper then Carson
     
  13. Martin Fischer

    Martin Fischer Member+

    Feb 23, 1999
    Kampala. Uganda
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Brad Guzman? to Celtic...

    Actually, a better translations is that Guzan is in Scotland where he apparently is negotiationg his transfer to Celtir, with whom he is currently training , [not "actually" training].
     
  14. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
  15. DLee

    DLee Member

    Apr 24, 2006
    Chicago
    Re: Brad Guzman? to Celtic...

    Didn't Villa sign one of our youth defenders last year? Obviously not a first teamer though.

    PS - Can we get a thread title change over here? It's annoying me.
     
  16. Friedel'sAccent

    Friedel'sAccent Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Providence, RI
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Brad Guzman? to Celtic...

    Yup, Eric Lichaj, out of [shudder] UNC...
     
  17. bungadiri

    bungadiri Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 25, 2002
    Acnestia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Brad Guzman? to Celtic...

    Aye zigga zoomba, baby.
     
  18. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Re: Brad Guzman? to Celtic...

    The ever reputable Footbal Rumours had a post that Arsenal withdrew from bidding for Brad ($5M is peanuts for Arsenal, obviously) after making a casual inquiry because Celtic promised Arsene the first crack at Boruc in the upcoming summer transfer window.

    Having seen Lukasz Fabianski's stellar goalkeeping in the recent thrashing by Tottenham, maybe Arsene is having second thoughts now.

    PS. Arsenal also has an American (co-) owner.
     
  19. The Blind Pig

    The Blind Pig Member

    Jul 14, 2005
    Section 8
  20. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Re: Brad Guzman? to Celtic...

    So, this is the contract offer.

    Presumably then, the transfer fee has been agreed to already.
     
  21. fscat

    fscat Member

    May 2, 2005
    Chicago, IL
    Re: Brad Guzman? to Celtic...

    Makes sense. Good analysis. However Fabianski is so young, even more so for a goalkeeper. I wouldn't give up on him already. I'm not saying start him, but keep him in the system. But right now, if I was Wenger, and I had to choose between a old, past-his-prime Lehmann, a overachieving Almunia, a not-ready-for-prime-time Fabianski, or a about to reach his prime Boruc... I'd pick Boruc.
    But if some of the rumors I've heard that AC Milan is after Boruc too, I wonder who'd he pick. Arsenal is a big-time club, no doubt, but IMHO, there's something almost mythic about AC Milan.
     
  22. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Brad Guzman? to Celtic...

    I think Fabianski is going to be good if Arsenal give him time.
     
  23. CaliManU

    CaliManU New Member

    Jul 4, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Re: Brad Guzman? to Celtic...

    Hypothetical question: If Guzan goes on to start for Celtic, who's the US #1? Howard or Guzan?
     
  24. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Brad Guzman? to Celtic...

    Howard

    Guzan is improving quick but I still think Howard is better and will be better for a while
     

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