2008 Roster Thread (in, out, rumors, etc)

Re: 2008 Roster Thread

I said "It wasn't a fluke that the Revs were outspent by other teams. It happens every year". You said "Clearly not true. We've been below the cap by small to moderate amounts the last few years". My statement still stands, and your claim that it was clearly not true was clearly false. What Mike pointed out was that for the last 3 years we've been outspent by every single team in the league. If you're trying to claim that there have been years that we weren't outspent by other teams, I'd like to see the facts that support this. In which year did we spend the most in the league on players? Which year were we in the top third? How about the top half?

 

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Sorry, I'm not about to go off on a research trip to satisfy you. Significant room under the cap has only been an issue the last 3 years or so. I'll leave it up to whoever is interested to support or dispute that.

 

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So basically when you said "It wasn't a fluke that the Revs were outspent by other teams. It happens every year" was clearly not true, you had no information that would back up your claim.

 

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I don't know if this was in the midst of any of the page long posts, but I believe that Angulo has a green card.

 

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Thanks for the info. Makes sense

ANALYSIS:

We currently have 5 regular roster slots
John is penciled in one of the open slots
Angulo as a Discovery I'm told must go to the regular roster if signed
Videria would be in a slot if signed

We currently have three DV roster slots open
Valintino is a GA and thats one
This leaves two slots to be fought over by the other seven
(unless one or more players get moved up to the regular roster or someone gets waived

 

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My understanding was that GA players didn't count against salary cap or spots, any confirmation on that?

 

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None of the DV players pay, and that includes all the GA's count against the Cap. We are only allowed 10 DV players and that includes all GA's.

 

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From the above we have three or four regular roster slots open:

~SN has made it clear he wants to resign Avery John. If John were to leave it could be a trade into his roster slot or just a free transfer opening the roster slot.
SWAG: he will resign
~As a discovery player I'm told Angulo must be on the regular roster.
SWAG: he will be signed
~One or more of last years DV player might be elevated to the regular roster.
SWAG: one current DV player will make the regular roster

I opine that we have one or at most two regular roster slots open

 

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You can't put John on our roster since he is out of contract.

 

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In other words, probably not enough slots to replace Noonan and Dorman, let alone (god forbid) improve the roster from last year.

 

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Much of options I posted above (SWAG: Sophisticated Wild Ass Guess) are like chess pieces. The choices they make will depend on the options available. For example if Videria signs, for sure he will be on the regular roster. The same with Angulo if in fact Discovery players must be on the regular roster. But right now their status is undetermined.

The 2008 roster is being constructed right now and still very much a work in progress. What happens next will determine the available choices for then "what's the next best move" just like in a chess game. I'm sure they have a game plan but till the sequences of pieces are played it's all hypothetical.

 

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There are some of us that REMEMBER that one was put into a regular roster slot and one wasn't. I suggest that you not try to apply logic to anything that went on with the Revs roster towards the end of last season. All attempts so far have proven to be well beyond even the best minds on this Board.

 

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I don't know if there is any source for that information but CT told us at a tailgate when they signed the Gambians that they were both being signed to developmental contracts. I guess that's more hearsay.

 

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That is true. However after that, they promoted Cristman and Nysassi to the senior roster, and many of us joked that they finally have a full senior roster.

 

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I know there was an article about Cristman getting promoted, but was there ever anything that said Nyassi was promoted? That's the first I've heard of that.

 

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I may be confusing him with Mansally. Both are listed in their summaries on revolutionsoccer.net as developmental players but I could have sworn that they promoted one of them.

Doing a little bit of searching I realized where I read it from. It was from you.

https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?p=12751159#post12751159

 

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Oh yeah, I looked that up didn't I? Now I remember.

As said by Balerion, though, that page can be confusing:

https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12752026&postcount=31

So I'm not sure that clears things up.

 

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It doesn't at all because the Revs website has them listed as developmental players.

Is it possible to promote a player to the senior roster then relegate them back down to the developmental roster?

 

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I don't think so, considering that also determines what they get paid.

 

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I know, they would just be bumped back down. It'd be a dick move for an organization to make, I'm just wondering if it's at all possible.