We are going to have to face these players over many years. How do you stop them? Possibly Altidore is as good and maybe Adu but beyond that? Where are our wunderkinds? How do we continue to dominate CONCACAF considering the talent that Mexico has been producing?
We are much better tactically and at organizing, our backline is better collectivly even if not individually, and we continue to produce world class goalies.
Only two games vs. Mexico matter every four years. Now that they have Giovani and Vela I suppose we'll lose both games. As long as we win all the other games I imagine we'll be OK. Sorry. I honestly don't know who these guys are. My ignorance keeps me brave in the face of Vela and Giovani. For now just stick Edu and Bradley on them and hope for the best.
You wouldn't consider Freddy, Jozy, or Michael Bradley wunderkids? Anyway you split it the rivalry will get better, better than anything we have seen previously. Mexico has always had the better talent so this will be nothing knew. Just game plan properly. 11 against 11 anything can happen.
the only wonderkid in that sentence is actually freddy. the other two are just promising talent but no where near a wonderkid. giovanni and vela will be a handful in the future. i have seen both play and they are pretty damn good. although i think vela is better than gio right now. hopefully the US can get freddy a sidekick in the near future. hopefully jozy can do that.
As JuanPeron noted, Mexico has always had the better talent between the two of us, and that hasn't prevented us from earning favorable results, so frankly I don't see anything new with the inclusions of Dos Santos and Vela. Also, I don't see Vela as head-and-shoulders above Altidore at this point.
Our relative lack of young phenoms is a non-issue. Freddy and Gio are never going to neutralize each other because they're both attacking players. Also, we forget just how young some of our "veterans" are. Remember, Landon Donovan could possibly continue to terrorize Mexico's back line for another decade. We're adding Adu and Altidore to an attack that already scores pretty consistently on Mexico; Mexico, on the other hand, is adding Dos Santos and Vela to an attack that, for the last decade or so, has struggled to score on us.
It's going to be intense. Taking a look at our U23 roster gives me a boner though. The talent is redik. Who do you start in a midfield with Klestjan, Rogers, Zizzo, Bradely, Feilhaber, Holden, Edu, and Adu? Those are just off the top of my head. There might be more. Mexico has a lot to be weary of also.
Itll be interesting to see if Dos Santos and Vela are thrown at us february 6th. This team is sick, absolutely sick, of losing to us and may be ready to try something dynamic. This could seriously be an offensive lineup that we see next month: ------------------Torrado---------------- Arce-----------------------------Guardado ----------------Dos Santos--------------- ----------Vela--------------Castillo------- First impressions mean alot; if our central defenders can throw them around a bit, theyll remember it. If they can shut them down, theyll remember it. As if Guardado and Castillo arent dangerous enough as is, Cherundolo is going to be a busy, busy boy. Castillo and Guardado still havent seen Cherundolo yet, hopefully he shows well. assuming our euro players come, this will be our midfield and defense Convey------------Edu-----------Dempsey ------------------Bradley----------------- Bornstein------------------------Cherundolo -------------Bocanegra-Onyewu------------ Itll be very interesting to see if coach bob changes up our center back pairing. Bradley v Dos Santos is absolutely huge, thatll be a battle for the next two cycles. Cherundolo has Castillo and Guardado on his watch, and that will force Dempsey to track back and, unlike in other Mexico friedlies Dempsey is going to have to SHOW UP, because he hasnt in every mexico match ive seen. Boca-Gooch cannot affrd to play clumsy ball, they need to be fluid. Id love to see Conrad, Parkhurst, or Spector lining up in the middle to mix it up a bit but im not sure if it happens. Bornstein has showed up Arce a few times in the lst showing, say what you want about John he shows up against Mexico. Our best chances lie on the left side, and Convey needs to show up and put out this game, we need Convey to speahead the counter attack; as well as the tenacity of Edu and Bradley in the middle, theyll have to be bulldogs.
Gio Dos Santos has started for Barcelona over Ronaldinho. Sure he hasnt been in great form, but this is still Ronaldinho we are talking about. Freddy gets some minutes as a sub for Benfica, Gio gets more minutes and sometimes as a starter for Barcelona. I think Gio can get wonderkid status as well.
Vela is no threat as of yet hes done absolutely nothing. Dos Santos is a talent but may never see playing time. He plays in Spain and is Mexican so the answer is obvious. Tackle him hard and tackle him often. Id be more worried about the Uruguayan Castillo he has US player type speed but hes playing in England so its just a matter of time before he suffers a Convey and Beasley type injury. If he ever plays.
Torrado is no one to worry about. Bradley can more than take him.Torrado will spend alot of energy trying slow down the bigger, faster, younger, meaner Bradley with new found offensive prowess. What the hell has Vela done? Other than that Mexico offense is fearsome but their backline doesnt have anyone who can play defense for 90mts mentally. Marquez sucks defensively and when he gets beat regularly (as he often does)he will lose his head and get carded.
Gio's a baller, without a doubt, but Vela is nothing but a promising prospect, definitely not any where close to being a wunderkid. The only mex players i think we need to worry about in the future would be guardado and gio, thats it though.
Sounds awfully familiar......sadly enough I agree completely, this game will be won through the midfield. Edu and Bradley have to bust some heads in and take charge.
I think this is where Ricardo Clark can come into play. He has the speed to track down dos santos in the defensive midfield
Giovani and Vela!! Oh Crap!! I guess we should stop playing soccer here. Maybe we can dominate Mexico in cricket or something.
it's all about style of play and usa just matches up well against mexico... it's like basketball where a team wants to ru and gun go up and down the court, high paced game versus a team who plays zone, milks the clock and walks the ball everywhere.... controlling tempo and playing defense is how usa contends with mexico... the interesting part is when usa starts wanting high tempo run and gun, what the mexico matches evolve in to
Great. Great for Mexico. However, you were responding to a guy who was speaking of US players, not Mexican. True, but Mexico has never had a player like Gio. Ever. And truth be told, quite frequently Mexico has gotten in position to score but w/ the like of Blanco, Hernandez, Bravo, Borghetti, etc... they didn't have the talent to finish. Vela and Gio have that talent.
Why on earth are ppl talking about how to deal w/ Gio and Vela and focusing on Adu and Altidore???? Defenders deal w/ attackers, ppl!!! From all accounts, Mexico has a loaded generation of attackers coming up, but it seems like the level falls significantly amongst the defenders. So they'll score more goals than they have over the last decade... meaning they'll actually score for once! But they'll continue to concede goals.
This Is Retarted Even Back In The Dayz Till Know Borgetti Is A Better Stricker Than Any US Striker And U Guys remember luis hernandez duhh!!!! PLUS WE GOT DONOVAN FOR ANOTHER 10 YEARS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iti31I0qI9s&NR=1 carlos vela is a starter in osasuna gio isn't and yes their both mexico's wonder kids
so what usa still will win so get over it and worry of guatemala cuzz last time i checked u lost to them and wasent ur wonder kids there ????