Oh ho, the libertarians who value individual liberty above all else are giving orders now. Pretty rich from the guy who didn't even know Paul was pro-life. Oh, and if we're enforcing assertions, you and many like you owe me backup for assertions that a ghostwriter wrote "Los Angeles Racial Terrorism" for the Ron Paul Survival Report, only to be fired by Paul. Come up with proof for that, before you order around your intellectual superiors. After you do that, I will respond to your challenge. But, since you're all hot and bothered about it, here's a quick preview of how it will go. I'll point out that what I actually said was: "The end result of the Paul program would be the pre-Civil War South." Then I'll point out that I have no idea whether Paul would want such a thing, although it wouldn't surprise me if he did. I'm just telling you what would happen if what he advocates was implemented. Then I'll call you a lying sack of shit who can't ********ing read and either doesn't know history, or is blindly ignorant of it. And then I'll say oh, and before you get upset about that, the alternative interpretation to your post is that you know perfectly well what happened in the civil rights struggle, and still believe in segregated lunch counters, hospitals, neighborhoods and cities. Looking forward to it? Me too!
I've always known Paul is pro-life. Get your facts straight. Whatever. So in the pre-Civil War South, we had slavery endorsed by the federal government. And I'll also point out that the 13th-15th Amendments hadn't been ratified. I'll then say that you refuse to make note of that, and can't get it through your head that Paul doesn't advocate going back to that. We gave you your own Paul bashing thread already. Go back there.
Very well...you can define Jim Crow. Now look up Jim Crow LAW. Yes. What it signifies is that you are unable to see the consequences of actions by the government. The simple fact that you are willing to trade some benefits at the expense of potentially huge drawbacks without knowing how big those drawbacks really are just show how irrational you really are. Here is a study for you to dive into: http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Science/2007/10/08/chimps_choose_more_rationally_than_humans/8872/ If you want to stand up for your values, fine. I can accept that...you are, after all, human. But you have to realize that without informing yourself and understanding the effects of your decisions, you may be making the situation worse for yourself and for others. You will have to wait for references. I didn't get my information from links. As long as you accept that what you are doing in the name of morals may be hurting more people by the same exact crime, go ahead and live with it. If you think that is the "intelligent" way, you can rest assured that you are following in the footsteps of other "intelligent" people like the leaders of the Catholic church during the reformation. I have not ignored the first and the third part, in fact, I think the third part of the study is the most important part of the study. But if I think the 1st amendment is the most important amendment, that doesn't help much in the discussion of the third, right? The middle section of the study showed proof positive that his study DID take into account forced integration, which you would like to deny.
Thanks for the advice. People such as yourself, and many others, like to think that foreign policy is this crazy complicated thing that only our political betters can handle. I disagree. It's pretty darn easy, so easy that many politicians can handle it even. In fact, in many ways foreign policy is like your personal relationships and interactions. I don't know about other people, but I don't pay people to be friends with me. Some choose to be friendly, a few don't, and a lot don't care either way. Why must foreign policy be different? It isn't.
I love how you dismiss our rational as simplistic, and then make your point by explaining that all the other nations do it.
I agree that it is a harm. I also agree that paper cuts are a harm. I agree that getting broken up with is a harm. I agree that having to pay a fee to seek discovery in a traffic court case is a harm. I agree that hangnails are a harm. Where we can't agree is whether or not it is harmful to the degree that it needs legislation to take away someone else's rights to protect someone from the harm.
Really? I've topped myself because I don't think the hurt feelings caused by being kicked out of diner by an idiot owner is not reason to take away the owners right to do so?
I was thinking of the time you claimed that Paul opposed federal abortion laws, when actually, not so much. What the ******** are you talking about? Yes, the 13th through 15th Amendments hadn't been ratified. That's the point, dipshit. Paul's policies, if implemented, would take us back there. Paul is not a fan of the 14th Amendment. How do you possibly not know this? Who the ******** is "we", you hive-mind collectivist? If I start a thread for "People so ********ing stupid they think integration was a bad idea," will you go there? Because I'm sure there's one on Stormfront. EDIT - and take that ******** toone with you.
To be fair two of those incidents you're showing are publicly funded. I am assuming the water cannon is being used by police. We've stated that we're 00% opposed to these types of actions. They're being conducted the aid of their tax dollars and are causing unjust harm to them. Thats wrong. Then again, I guess by advocating for less government intrusion in our lives we're racists. Way to straw man libertarianism.
No, this is simple. By dannytoone comparing racism to a paper cut, he's a racist. I'm not throwing the term around lightly. He's earned it.
Arguing about past events like this is like arguing about what you were doing during the Vietnam War.
You clearly have no idea what pro-life means then. Maybe you should learn. So Paul would un-ratify those amendments? How would he do that exactly? So, Mr. JKWD, who is your favorite candidate? I feel the need to trash someone, and I'm sure I'll have no trouble destroying yours.
I believe the best synopsis of why Ron Paul, despite his views on certain subjects, is still the best GOP candidate is provided in the following review of his record. http://civilliberty.about.com/b/200...epublican-presidential-candidate-for-2008.htm
C'mon. In this thread, there are various degrees of delusion/autism. MitH is the most hopeful case, for example. He has many, many moments of clarity. dannytoone has BY FAR the worst case. Look at the damn post Galt quoted!!!! I know danny's your boy, but seriously, read that post. Do you really, truly, not believe that the person who wrote it is a racist? The guy is wall to wall loony tunes. Wait, that's a personal attack. Let me retract it. His posts are wall to wall loony tunes. There, that's better. The thing is, I personally believe ITN is putting us on. I don't think the joke is funny, but it's a joke. I really don't think danny is putting us on. He's gone off the deep end. He's a stone racist.
Define "worked". I have seen you assert that "busing worked in Charlotte and Raleigh". I was in NC at the time. No it didn't work, and NC is still near the bottom nationally in education.
Someone was discussing that "everyone" believes medicare to be a success. I beg to differ. Perhaps they should have said that all big health insurance companies! http://www.cbpp.org/policy-points12-20-07.htm The pertinent passage, although it gets better in the actual report. I'm not a Paul supporter, but certainly most federal programs should be reviewed so that we understand who really benefits from them.
Where "NC" is nationally is irrelevant. Where are Wake and Mecklenburg schools? And where in "NC" were you? It's a little too slick and easy, the way you are eliding a state and two cities in that state.
Yes, where are the Charlotte and Raleigh city schools? Where were you in the 60's and 70's when busing was started? Were you there? I was in Goldsboro and Raleigh. Lots of friends from Charlotte. What do you say to that, slick? ps- you should look up eliding.
I have experienced more racist behavior against me and my family than you can even imagine. I know what the difference is between having a bus blown up and being not welcome in a private business. I know the difference between criminal and violent action and hurt feelings. I have felt the pain and experienced the violence caused by racism. Fortunately, I also have family with direct experience with fascism and loss of freedom. It has given me a very nice, though obviously confrontational, view on racism and its legislation. I'm grateful for my experiences, because they have taught me more about perspective than a shithead idealist like you can ever fathom.