So is the EQLLC office. Don't suppose we can use that lot on weekends? It would be very convenient, no? Although it would be best to use the space directly opposite and out of view of the police station, nearest the office itself.
The lot outside the EQLLC offices is going to be used for Quakes games. It's possible tailgating might be allowed in there.
Ding Ding Ding! Google Earth that, aim at the big "boob" circle in front of the entrance, and envision tents, BBQ's, ClubQuake, kegs, kid's jumpers, catering, and drums all around! If they want to create a buzz with this new team, they ought not squash the pregame fun that made the old Spartan games the events they were.
Sorry. I must have missed the context. I thought you were saying SCU has a world class campus. They don't. Now if you just meant they had a better campus than SJSU, well thats debatable. In any case their library is in a trailer. That's funny. Then with that experience isn't it a bit irresponsible to be giving people the impression that it's OK to drink in public in Santa Clara?
SCU does have a world class campus you obtuse fool. Just because they moved their library temporarily into portables while they rebuilt their main library into one of the most advanced college libraries in the US doesn't change that fact. And it's also a much nicer campus than SJSUs, that's not open for debate. And I in no sentence suggested drinking in public. I suggested there might be places to have tailgates off campus (the EQSLLC parking lot being one). And for that matter who says you need to drink to have a tailgate? Seriously you need to take this negativity bent your on and go take a time out or something. You come off sounding like you'd rather the team not have come back at all. I mean I know you're alot less happy than many are with the choices EQSLLC has made, but seriously... it could be ALOT worse.
Most objective observers would disagree. Being an alumnus I'm sure you take pride in SCU . But lets see ... Harvard, La Sorbonne, Oxford, Stanford, .... Santa Clara? World Class my ass! Obtuse Fool? Hey I'm not calling you names. Be nice. And Obtuse Fool doesn't really fit does it? I'll leave that to an SJSU alum. Of course you didn't, but for most people tailgating is synonymous with drinking. Maybe the EQSLLC parking lot will fly - I don't know but I wouldn't bet on it. The point is Santa Clara is not a city where you want to be drinking in public - wouldn't you agree? I don't think I'm negative. I think I'm a realist and a critical thinker. I'm a truth seeker, data driven, passionate about stadium design and I don't like people trying to blow smoke up my ass. And sometimes I'm funny. All that's reflected in my posts - I think. You seem to be the lead smoke blower around here lately. If you post stuff that isn't true or is overly exaggerated you should expect to be corrected. Correcting your misstatements is hardly being negative. And after two years and countless posts in "What do you want in a new stadium" I believe I'd be remiss in my BigSoccer duties if I didn't critique the proposed stadium configurations. Constructive Criticism - and it might be working too. BS will be a small field and I suspect we'll play at least one and possibly more games in the football config in Oakland. You can thank me later!
That might be it right there. I hate that monstrosity that is the parking garage on campus--unless there's any other spots on campus where parking is available it's looking like the train or party bus. Although the Quakes offices are within walking distance from the Santa Clara Caltrain station if I remember right the tough part is trying to get back postgame--any postgame revelry is just as great as what goes on pregame!
OK. I'll try to be more like A68. Yes our grass will be the best grass in the world!!!! YeHaaa! Now WTF. Why would he make that statement? The SCU field looks like crap now. The A's ground crew will renovate the field. Cool. They're good, they'll do a good job. But FAR better than ANTHING we ever played on? ANYTHING? Kind of pegs the bullshit meter don't ya think? You guys gotta tone down the smoke machine.
I think the Home Depot's grass is the best in the world. Then again it should be they put they put Millions of dollars worth of shit on it every week last season.
Shouldn't that be super sexy grass? And speaking of super, shouldn't we petition BigSoccer to split LA off of the MLS Clubs forum and into their own "MLS Super Clubs" forum?
I was thinking more along the lines of anything we've played on in the MLS. And I stand by that statement. The A's ground crew is one of the best there is and they prove it every spring in Oakland. If they give Buck Shaw the same treatment, there won't be a nicer pitch in the MLS. Period. You may think I'm blowing smoke, but frankly I don't see it that way. Plus even if I am a bit POSTIIVE about our situation, it seems to me the team can use it. Your critical writing lately whether you mean to or not comes off more like complaining about every move they've made. Critical thinking would be to suggest improvements to the situations we have within the designs they're using. Complaining repeatedly that the football config is better in Oakland, or that we shouldn't use Buck Shaw isn't going to change the fact that BOTH are going to happen. And considering the alternatives were either no team for 08, or kowtowing to SJSU for another 3 years, I'll take what we've got 100 times out of 100.
I get frustrated with those who seem to not recognize the bigger picture of a situation. The context of what the Quakes are doing right now MUST be viewed as the first part of a 3 to 5 year plan. Just as the managing/coaching aspects of the team are far more complicated than most people realize, the same is true regarding the construction of a brand new facility. If waiting a few years is stressful to anyone, they somehow need to find a way to cope with it, because that is how long it is going to take to do it right.
Exactly right. There's a thread on the N&A forum where some (mostly non-Quakes) fans are hand wringing about the number of Quakes season tickets sold or worried that Buck Shaw might not sell out (and how's the league going to recover from that! ). They are clearly not getting the big picture.
Considering we were crap from 1997-2000, I think we need at least 3-5 years before we get good. I'd hope we won't have to wait all that long but I'm sure the new SSS will give us a lot of momentum not to mention the luring of some better and/or or strong veteran players.
Falvo my friend, first off, we had bad coaches from '96 to '00. We also had, I'm sorry to say, a GM who was also a player agent. So we had a bunch of his players on the squad who frankly sucked. So '99, was the first year that a San José coach got to choose his team without interference from his own GM. And we were a whole lot better in '99 than previously. (We finished the '98 season on the very bottom of the MLS table.) Even so, Quinny over managed. He was constantly yelling at his players during the match, which is more of a distraction than a help. Then we got Loathsome Lothar, the worst of all our coaches. Instead of tinkering with a team that finished seventh, he completely rebuilt the club, mostly for the worst and again, we finished dead last in the league. 2001, enter Frankie! Now I don't think that we are going to have one of the top clubs out of the gate. Remember that Frank had a bunch of guys that Quinn had brought in to begin with (and Ian, who was a Lothar draft). So he had a base of quality guys to start. That's not the case in '08. I expect that we will suck in '08. I expect and believe that we will be better in '09. But we shouldn't suck for three years. Notice that the GoatShaggers blew chunks their first season. Rebuilt and were much better in their second season. Then did some tweaking and had a very good season in their third year. I think that we will more closely resemble that trajectory than the Clash! Oh, and the pitch at Spartan was usually great. I hope that we have at least that quality at TheShaw(tm). It won't kill me if it isn't quite as good. I will be pumped if it is any better. (Which at the end of the season it will be because there won't be any football lines nor football destruction of the pitch.) I think I'll be partying in the VIP tent too. I'll miss the tailgating, but that's a small price to pay for having OUR team back!! GOOOOOO QUAAAAAAKES!!!!!! FUAEG! FUMLS! - Mark
Well if the A's ground crew do half the job on Buck Shaw they do at the Coliseum we'll have a far superior pitch to Spartan. The A's ground crew are top notch and it shows every spring in Oakland. And of course as you say there won't be any football tearing up the lawn this time. Nor should SCU be using it for practices anymore since they'll have their new turf practice field. And as for tailgating, IF there ends up being no place around Buck Shaw we can do it (with or without alcohol), we'll just have to tailgate that much harder the 4 games we're in Oakland. Because tailgating is a way of life up there.