Why is Angola more advanced than the USA?

Discussion in 'Soccer in the USA' started by davideyak, Nov 26, 2007.

  1. Cool Rob

    Cool Rob Member

    Sep 26, 2002
    Chicago USA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The US can't have a national stadium because it plays against Mexico too much, and the fans of Mexico would overrun the stadium. That's why the US likes to play Mexico in Columbus Ohio, not LA. The Gold Cup final in Chicago was sooo pro-Mexican; in the semis I couldn't believe the way the Mexican fans were rooting for Canada against the US.

    The US could have a national stadium, but it would have to be on wheels so it could travel to Vermont or North Dakota when playing Mexico.
     
  2. WambachWoodenOrnamen

    Dec 17, 2005

    Bad news to you and yours, Johnny. The US is now enjoying an infant mortality rate lower than Brunei, Slovenia, Cyprus, Cuba and about 30 other nations.
     
  3. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No the point is you're wanting DC to have a stadium built for them. And you're just trying to mask it as wanting a national soccer stadium.

    [insert tongue in cheek]I say screw that and put it in KC and let the Wizards play there. It's an ideal location because KC is a central location. :rolleyes:[/remove tongue from cheek]
     
  4. Eric B

    Eric B Member

    Feb 21, 2000
    the LBC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bad news Michael Moore, a lower infant mortality rate is a good thing...
     
  5. DavidP

    DavidP Member

    Mar 21, 1999
    Powder Springs, GA
    Angola's national stadium makes the old Downing Stadium on Randall's Island look like the New Wembley. The construction site behind my apartment building, where a new mixed-use complex is being built, looks better than that place.
     
  6. shinzui

    shinzui New Member

    Dec 2, 2005
    Gulf Shores
    I call BS on that picture of the Angolan National Stadium. The real Estadio de Cidadela http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/africa/angola/luanda_cidadela.jpg

    And it is being replaced by the sparkling new 40,000 seat Welwichia Stadium in time for the 2010 African Cup of Nations.

    That picture is of the Benguela municipal stadium. But, even that is being replaced for the 2010 African Cup of Nations.
     
  7. MNAFETSC

    MNAFETSC Member

    Feb 5, 2000
    Blacksburg
    That stadium makes Lambeau look like a rec league field
     
  8. Joelzinho

    Joelzinho Member

    May 23, 2005
    Montreal!
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Thats the real stadium.
     
  9. ECUNCHATER

    ECUNCHATER Member

    Sep 30, 1999
    Um, Crew Stadium has been our Estadio Azteca.
     
  10. bête noire

    bête noire New Member

    May 3, 2007
    Valvasone
    moronic
    that's a concept developed by countries with one large capital and desolation around it (British nations, France, Mexico)
    USA's situation is exactly opposite
     
  11. jokeefe80

    jokeefe80 Red Card

    Oct 31, 2005
    Boston, Ma
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    have you ever been to england or france? there is hardly desolation anywhere. i think you have no idea what you are talking about.

    i do agree that the national stadium idea is pretty dumb however.
     
  12. jfranz

    jfranz New Member

    Jun 16, 2004
    Portland, OR
    I don't think desolation was the right word, but he was probably trying to point out that, in addition to being much smaller than the US:

    National Stadiums
    Mexico = 106.5m people; Greater Mexico City = 22.4m (21% of the population)
    France = 61.5m people (excluding overseas France); Greater Paris = 10m (16% of the population)
    England = 50.7m people; Greater London = 12m (24% of the population)

    -versus-

    No National Stadium
    USA = 303m people
    Greater New York City = 21.9m (only 7% of the population)
    Greater Los Angeles = 18m (6% of the population, and aprox. 2500 air miles from NY)
    Chicagoland = 9.8m (and aprox. 700 air miles from NY; and aprox. 1700 air miles from LA - more than London to Moscow!)

    Germany = 82.3m people
    Ruhr Valley = 5.7m (only 7% of the population)
    Greater Berlin = 4.3m (5% of the population and on the opposite side of the country from the Ruhr Valley)

    It makes no sense at all for countries without a concentrated population center and/or a small geographical size to have a single national stadium.

    Besides, according to the most recent US Census, the current "population center" of the United States is actually closest to... St. Louis! If anything, this should be a thread about building a glorious National Soccer Stadium in the shadow of the Gateway Arch. ;)

    [​IMG]
     
  13. bête noire

    bête noire New Member

    May 3, 2007
    Valvasone
    ^ see jokeefe?
    demographics for dummies.

    btw, "desolation" is actually the word I heard some Londoners use for the rest of Britain. Parisiennes probably reason in the same terms about the rest of France
     
  14. jokeefe80

    jokeefe80 Red Card

    Oct 31, 2005
    Boston, Ma
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How is England or France, more desolate outside of London or Paris, than the USA? Even with sub-urban sprawl, there is much more "desolation" in the US than there is in either of those two countries.
     
  15. jokeefe80

    jokeefe80 Red Card

    Oct 31, 2005
    Boston, Ma
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not arguing for a national stadium at all. I was talking about the perceived notion of "desolation" of those countries. I happen to agree with him and you that a National stadium in this country is a waste of time because of the vastness and the population sprawl.
     
  16. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Whoever thinks the fact that Angola has a national stadium puts it ahead of us in soccer should try telling that to such world soccer minnows as Brazil and Germany.
     
  17. Matt12

    Matt12 Member

    Nov 26, 2007
    Trondheim
    Club:
    Rosenborg BK
    i think this was meant as a joke thread =_=
     

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