Finally!!! RB Park starts Construction next week (new rendering is sick)

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Onionsack, Nov 28, 2007.

  1. Darknote2

    Darknote2 New Member

    Jun 2, 2003
    Pasadena
    Say What?!! HDC is much better than that thing up in the Rockies!
     
  2. holiday

    holiday Member+

    Oct 16, 2007
    interesting...
    technically you could get there without highway obstacles. there's a major county road (bloomfield av) which runs through essex county, from the suburbs into the city of newark. if you could catch it when there isn't a lot of traffic, it'd be great. but the car traffic is disorderly, cars are double parked, there are bottlenecks, trucks, some tricky spots. biking is great in the jersey suburbs although you always need to be a bit careful, of course. into rbp might be problematic if you're not really an urban bike rat. i'd say you'd need to get used to the experience. but i suspect it might be just the sort of thing you'd love! :)
    by the way, the harrison PATH station has a bike rack outside and many people do leave bikes there. of course they might be coming just from the immediate neighborhood.
     
  3. Dallas fans are the one who came in here trolling this thread. Seems strange you only respond to Metro fans who were calling them out for their crap. Where's your post calling out the Dallas trolls?
     
  4. Onionsack

    Onionsack BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 21, 2003
    New York City
    Club:
    FC Girondins de Bordeaux
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Its gonna be the same stuff they have at Anfield i have heard. Not 100% natural grass, its grass sown in with synthetic fibers for durability. Nice stuff.
     
  5. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Have you been to both?
     
  6. #1 Feilhaber and Adu

    Aug 1, 2007
    Great looking stadium. Just wish it was 50,000 seats deep instead of 25,000. I am just glad that just the real football(soccer) is going to be played their not the fake football of helmets and pads. If the helmet and pads or any other sport touches my feild i am going to lose respect for the NYRB officials or whoever owns it.

    Just look at wembley since the NFL game, the feild looks torn and horrible!
     
  7. Hed7181

    Hed7181 Member

    Jul 1, 2003
    VA Beach, VA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't be surprised if there is the occasional high school football game there. It's a pretty easy revenue generator.
     
  8. The Cadaver

    The Cadaver It's very quiet here.

    Oct 24, 2000
    La Cañada, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sorry to be nit-picky, but HDC has about 18 soccer fields around the main grounds, including the Mooch Myernick Field used by the various naional teams in training. The others have been rented out to local events, including soccer tournaments, for years. And the practice fields were being used that way before PHP was a gleem in the Hunts' eyes.

    And I suspect that HDC was not the first to do this either, but clearly had done it years before PHP was up and running.
     
  9. Macksam

    Macksam Member

    Aug 2, 2007
    Brampton, Canada
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Yeah, we'll be able to sell 50 by then.
     
  10. SxSxWxC

    SxSxWxC Member

    Mar 16, 2007
    Wyandotte Crossing
    Please do us all a favour and get over yourself. There are numerous football "codes" around the world. They are all "real" football.

    Rugby league is REAL football. Aussie Rules is REAL football. Rugby Union is REAL football. Gaelic football is REAL football. Canadian football league is REAL football (one of the oldest football clubs in the world, regardless of code, are the CFL's Toronto Argonauts est. 1873. That's REAL).

    and contrary to what you seem to have convinced yourself of, American Football is REAL football. You can't get more real than the richest sports league in the world.

    Open your eyes and realize that just because you may not like something that doesn't make it less "real".

    How often do you see wembleys pitch? :rolleyes:
     
  11. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It was also the first to receive a significant amount of public financing. I will grant that RBP doesn't, but the fact that a municipality was willing to open up the coffers for a sporting facility the way they would for a venue in the four major North American sports was another signpost in professional soccer's march to permanence on the American sports scene.
    I wouldn't be so sure about that. First of all, RBP will fill a niche between the Prudential Center and Giants Stadium, in terms of venue size. Plus, with the amount of money that Red Bull is spending on the place, I'm sure that they want to recoup that investment in whatever way they can within reason. After all, the HDC doesn't have a permanent stage either, but it hosts a few concerts a year.
    I will admit that I found it a bit curious. Anyone who had spent a Wednesday night at the Cotton Bowl with 4,000 of their closest friends in the late '90s should know better.
     
  12. Goldenstick

    Goldenstick Member

    Jul 4, 2003
    Bridge City, Texas
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm so glad Red Bull invested in MLS. It's the best thing that has happened to date. Finally, a real soccer stadium
     
  13. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    You like empty seats? :confused:
     
  14. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What's wrong with you people RedBulls getting out of GS is the best news the league could have. The only reason there only getting 14,000-16,000 a game is because of the ************ stadium. Once RedBull park opens they'll sell that place out (I don't think every game will sellout, but most of them will). Even if they got 16,000 a game at Redbull park that would be 1,000% better than 16,000 at GS stadium.


    By the way that is one GREAT looking stadium, I could only wish ours was that GREAT looking (Don't get me wrong I love are stadium, but RedBull Park is in a class of it's own). Once it's built I'm going to have that get out there and see a game there (a FIRE win that is).

    I hope you guys have GREAT wheather out there so it will be done before the 18-20 months and get to play in it early part of 2009.
     
  15. Right on. This is great news for the league and the sport in this country. Anyone who cares about this league and wants to see this league do well should be applauding this news not tearing it down. Giants stadium was the leagues finanacial albatross since inception.
     
  16. MightyMouse

    MightyMouse BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 19, 2003
    Island paradise east of the mainland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FInally a PROPER stadium in MLS!!!
     
  17. Q Exp

    Q Exp Member

    Jul 29, 2004
    I even like this latest design better than the older one! 25,000 seats is also about the right seating capacity for an MLS stadium in the NY Metro area and the stadium looks sharp. That looks like the best stadium in the MLS in my opinion, if they don't change the design.
     
  18. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    What's wrong with Columbus Crew Stadium?
     
  19. Schwalker

    Schwalker New Member

    Apr 15, 2007
    Gelsenkirchen/Finja
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The roof leaks....;)
     
  20. szazzy

    szazzy Member

    Apr 18, 2004
    Kansas City, MO
    Man, that sounds really optimistic from a Fire fan. I remember hearing how they would sell out most of their games out in a new, smaller stadium.

    They couldn't come close to selling out Toyota Park regularly until Blanco showed. Even then I'd say the current capacity is probably right on. There were lots of seats still at the home Blanco match the Cauldron traveled to.

    Fire fans have traditionally supported their team better than RBNY/Metro.

    I'm not saying it's impossible, but selling out most games is going to be more about who's playing on the field than how nice the stadium is.
     
  21. Schwalker

    Schwalker New Member

    Apr 15, 2007
    Gelsenkirchen/Finja
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I have a feeling that Red Bull will not spend $200m on a stadium while expecting $2m a year teams to sell it out.
    There will most likely be a DP of some class coming in for the opening season.
     
  22. Prazan

    Prazan New Member

    Aug 28, 2006
    Prague
    The biggest advantage of Red Bull Park isn't the architecture (although that looks great) but the location one block from the PATH subway. As it is now, it is extremely difficult for anyone from New York City to get to games as they either have to drive and pay all of the tolls (and many in NYC don't have cars) or take a rather hellish ride via public transportation from the Port Authority terminal in midtown. That is why the Metros/RBNY have always had attendances drawn mostly from New Jersey.

    Once Red Bull Park is built, any one of the 8 million people in NYC will just have to get on the NYC subway and they won't come above ground again until they are one block from the stadium. And since Red Bull will be receiving all of the concession money (vs. the 0% they get now), they will have a much greater incentive to advertise the team in the city more.

    I don't know if they will sell out every game, but it doesn't seem too optimistic to think that the fact that 8 million more potential customers can now very easily make it to the stadium could bump the average attendance from 16 thousand into the low twenties at least.
     
  23. szazzy

    szazzy Member

    Apr 18, 2004
    Kansas City, MO
    I visit NY/NJ about 5 times per year for work and regularly travel from offices in Tenafly into NYC. I definitely know about the mental hurdle that both sides of the state line have about driving to the other side. I hope the PATH stop increases travel to the games. When I'm in the city, I usually drive company cars rather than take public transportation so I'm not too familiar with PATH.
     
  24. lprevolution

    lprevolution Member

    Apr 5, 2007
    Philadelphia
    I live in Philly, I go to DC to watch games. I just cannot stand GS. Its God's gift of Shite.

    I hate to bring this up yet again, but it looks like injuries are going to take their tole on Ronaldo in Italy. He will be let go.

    With this new stadium will power house St. Benedicts be recieving some international talent to play with them?
     
  25. BorrachoNJ

    BorrachoNJ New Member

    Apr 8, 2001
    NEW BRUNSWICK, NJ
    that title used to belong to vets stadium, right?:p
     

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