Brian Carroll, do you know the way to San Jose?

Discussion in 'Alumni Forum' started by SteveWWJ, Nov 21, 2007.

  1. RMDad

    RMDad New Member

    Nov 15, 2001
    Fredericksburg, Va.
    This sux. Brian has been a pretty steady worker overall.
    He can also Happy Gilmore the livin' hell outta a golf ball!
    Via Con DIos B.C.

    Mark
     
  2. DutchFootballRulez

    Jul 15, 2003
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    T minus 90 days till Clyde Motha****in' Simms, gets a Mutha****in' season-ending Injury...
     
  3. dadman

    dadman Yo soy un papa

    DC United
    United States
    Apr 13, 2001
    Reston, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Best of luck in San Jose, Brian. I'll long remember your left-side half-field run and chip into the box for Emilio's finish this season.

    Too bad I did't get your signature on my flag back at the SE meet-the-team event in Bethesda, but at least I have it on some other United memorabilia.
     
  4. HomeatHighbury

    Mar 25, 2006
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Worked at Panera over the summer and Brian happened to come up to my register to pay. Seemed like a nice enough guy. best of luck.
     
  5. lurking

    lurking Member+

    Feb 9, 2002
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Right now Id put the odds of Carroll making it to San Jose at 50/50 at the best. Personally I think hes already been traded. Yallop in introducing the players stopped right in the middle of Carroll's introduction to let everyone know that not all the players would be with the team come opening day. Goff made a cryptic comment in his blog that indicated dont assume Carroll will be a Quake.
     
  6. JeremyEritrea

    JeremyEritrea Member+

    Jun 29, 2006
    Takoma Park, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm sorry to see him go.
     
  7. Lowecifer

    Lowecifer Member+

    Jan 11, 2000
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Good guy. Good luck in SJ Brian.
     
  8. Raz from the 'Burgh

    Raz from the 'Burgh New Member

    Aug 16, 2007
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    :confused:obviously there are a million reasons why the draft is rediculously stupid. don't even know if this is in the proper thread.

    1. already mentioned- taking players that other teams trained into decent professionals.

    2. any other country in the world if you want to start a club, you gotta get your own d:mad:mn players. why not give an expansion to seattle or rochester, and let them be "promoted"?

    3. it's stupid.

    4. who came up with the number "11" as the number of players that a team can not allow to be signed by the expansion team? so if every MLS team basically protects their top 11 players, that allows the expansion team to start a club based on the 12th best players from the MLS teams, it's going to be a shite team anyhow. ie. RSL.

    5. The player pool is already thin in professional soccer in the States. ie. starting fowards out and kpene or Cal U product Addlery coming on in place of them. now take away the back up CDM from a team and that leaves them hurting bad incase a starting CDM gets hurt. :mad:



    sorry for the rant. but i'm a big advocate of- "you want your own club, build your own club"

    if MLS is going to be respected then it needs to start taking some pointers from what works in other countries... atleast the clock is counting up these days.
     
  9. JeremyEritrea

    JeremyEritrea Member+

    Jun 29, 2006
    Takoma Park, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't see how any fan of Major League Soccer could fail to understand the need for an expansion draft when new teams come into the league.

    I especially don't see it when mention that the player pool in the USA is thin. How the hell can a new team "build their own club" when they can't get experienced MLS players from other MLS teams?

    It sucks that Carroll is gone, but it's a fact of life in this league. The expansion draft is a necessary evil. You don't have to like it, but you have to acknowledge why it exists if you claim to have any understanding of how the league functions.
     
  10. JoeW

    JoeW New Member

    Apr 19, 2001
    Northern Virginia, USA
    1. If you look at the approximately 60 players who've been chosen in the preivious expansion drafts (before this one), if you exclude TFC's pick of Jason Kreis, there is only ONE player who has gone on to become somewhat of a star in MLS: Zach Thornton (and I say "somewhat of a star").

    You have better odds getting a star player by using the MLS waiver draft (where SJ got Brian Ching) than you do in using the expansion draft.

    2. The only sensible rationale for expansion draft to me is that for an MLS team, it's a way to add some bodies since you can't fill 24-28 slots with draft choices, allocations and free agent signings.

    Here's my suggestion: the year before an expansion team enters the league, allow them to draft players. Those drafted players can be loaned out to other teams (either in MLS or outside of MLS) for a year. Allow the expansion team to form a reserve side that plays in the MLS reserve team league a year before the club forms. Between the rookies and the reserve team, you'd have enough bodies to produce depth (and maybe a star or two would emerge) than when you combine with the draft of their first year of play, waivers, free agents, and allocations--they'd have the potential of a coherent team.

    Instead, while the fans lust over the picks ("hey--we got Pozniak--he's supposed to have great character and can play 8 positions!"), the reality is that they're other team's leftovers and subs. A guy we value isn't necessarily a fit for SJ.
     
  11. FAS

    FAS Member

    Jun 5, 1999
    Los Gatos
    Well, San Jose actually did build their own club, can we have our players back from Houston, the only team in the league you could argue have been as successful as DCU, instead of a buncha castoffs?
     
  12. beltwayrob

    beltwayrob New Member

    Jun 15, 2004
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll definitely miss BC, best of luck!
     
  13. JeremyEritrea

    JeremyEritrea Member+

    Jun 29, 2006
    Takoma Park, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's actually a pretty damned fair point. Houston got a great team when the Quakes moved there, and San Jose has nothing to show for it.
     
  14. fatbastard

    fatbastard Member+

    Aug 1, 2003
    Lincoln (ish), Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hate just giving him away instead of getting a decent trade done, dammit - it's bad business.
     
  15. Boloni86

    Boloni86 Member+

    Jun 7, 2000
    Baltimore
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Gibraltar
    I wonder if Guerrero is being used as trade bait. I'd give them Vanney and Addlery for Guerrero.
     
  16. FLSoccerGran

    FLSoccerGran BigSoccer Supporter

    Liverpool
    United States
    Feb 2, 2005
    Poinciana, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm curious as to why they may select only 10, and not 11??!
     
  17. JeremyEritrea

    JeremyEritrea Member+

    Jun 29, 2006
    Takoma Park, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Because there are 13 teams.

    Duh.

    ;)
     
  18. owendylan

    owendylan Member

    May 30, 2001
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    BC was a rock in a 5 man midfield. I hope he stick in SJ

    Obviously, because it only benefit's LA. . . :)
     
  19. gocaps

    gocaps Member

    Sep 23, 2000
    With the SEs in 134
  20. JHopper

    JHopper New Member

    Jul 5, 2007
    MD
    So, who's going to write Carroll's eulogy?
     
  21. La Barra Blonde

    Oct 21, 2007
    Section 135
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Man, who'd he tick off to get stuck with the Crewzers? :confused:
     
  22. Th4119

    Th4119 Member

    Jul 26, 2001
    Annandale, VA
    I'm sure his wife is happy.
     
  23. AMERICANS SC

    AMERICANS SC New Member

    Feb 1, 2005
    Best of luck to Brian Carroll.
     

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