Cobi's Friend in Barcelona

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by Panfilo, Jul 8, 2003.

  1. Kur #10

    Kur #10 Member

    Dec 16, 2002
    Mexico Citay
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    you're right, having hernandez in the team was something unexplainable to us all... but, well yeah he ************ed up like always.. but anyways

    hehe... who the hell is beasley?
    the only american known down here in Mexique is cobi jones and maybe donovan ("the american pele" lol)

    and just why would I want donovan in our team by the way? doesnt he play in the mls? :D
     
  2. dcc134

    dcc134 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    May 15, 2000
    Hummelstown, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No the really sad thing is they were desperate enough to think that he'd make a difference.
     
  3. Ronaldo13

    Ronaldo13 New Member

    Jun 18, 2002
    NY

    we know how to play it better than mexico


    cough*world cup*cough
     
  4. Levante

    Levante Member+

    Jul 28, 2001
    Re: Re: Cobi's Friend in Barcelona

    This.....and much more at www.bigsegroves.com
     
  5. Levante

    Levante Member+

    Jul 28, 2001
    Didn't you read what Segroves wrote Fruitcake? :D
     
  6. Jeffrey S

    Jeffrey S New Member

    Jul 2, 2002
    Barcelona
    First off I understand that rivalries being as they are, Márquez is not popular in the States.

    It is also true that there may be better central defenders in the world for a better price. The average level in Argentina is excellent. Madrid's signing of Milito may be just as good or better.

    Barça also tends to burn out good defenders, we dumped Laurent Blanc when he was still worth half a decade of good play, we also pushed out Popescu who maybe still had the stuff. Since we try to attack always in ideal circumstances, and often play only with three back, central defenders are easily exposed. Márquez, it must be said, is not that fast either. But he can play the ball out of the back on the ground.

    But the question about the signing that is important is that Barça probably has a better sense of who can work in the position than the geniuses following MLS. I trust Frank Rijkaard's opinion over most US followers.

    If the world is not breaking down the doors to sign the US national defenders in MLS, who would go relatively cheaply and make about 5 times as much money (not just Barça, not anyone!), maybe that could be a message. Keller was only average on a crap team like Rayo, Razov was at the bottom of Spain 2nd division and now many want to see him shine for the US nats. I have no doubt that perhaps the world is mistaken in some cases (why in the world has noone made an attractive offer for Donovan, or even Beasely, esp considering their age?). I also think that US nats in MLS have to stick their necks out and do something in favour of their careers, maybe risk things a bit, speculate on a more spectacular future. Or is being readily availabe for Arena enough for them?

    In short, playing for Monaco or in general in France is more reliable for all top clubs than the cushy circumstances of MLS (read Ronaldinho, who after all was not even on a Republic-shaking team this past season).
     
  7. Mario

    Mario New Member

    Mar 11, 2000
    San Salvador, El Sal
    Jeffrey S: Educating the masses!
     
  8. Lanky134

    Lanky134 New Member

    Oct 25, 1999
    134, 3, 6
    Three pages and this hasn't come out yet. You people are starting to disappoint me (sigh).

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  9. kpaulson

    kpaulson New Member

    Jun 16, 2000
    Washington DC
     
  10. MLS_RM

    MLS_RM Member

    Jun 25, 2003
    chicago
    JUST LIKE IVE BEEN WAITING MY WHOLE LIFE FOR YOURS:)
     
  11. SABuffalo786

    SABuffalo786 New Member

    May 18, 2002
    Buffalo, New York
    :rolleyes:

    Your smack is as good as your national football side in the second round of the World Cup.

    2-0, slut.
     
  12. MLS_RM

    MLS_RM Member

    Jun 25, 2003
    chicago
    BOY FOR SOMEONE WHO THOUGHT HE WAS WASTING HIS TIME TALKING RESPONDING TOO ME YOU SURE SPENT ALOT OF TIME BREAKING DOWN WHAT I SAID. HE WAS CONSISTENTLY BURNED BY US FORWARDS IN QUALIFYING AND IN THE WORLD CUP. BOCA IS THE BETTER DEFENDER RAFA IS BETTER OFFENSIVELY BUT I BELIEVE HE SCORED ONLY ONCE LAST SEASON FOR MONACO(ACCORDING TO A BIG BOARD POST) HE WILL BE ABOUT AS EFFECTIVE AS BLANCO AND PALENCIA OVER THERE. YES ID DO SEE THE MEXICAN GROUPIE BOARDS TO SEE WHAT NONESENSE THEY SAY BUT CANT SAY ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY THREATEN A YELLOW CARD FOR EVEN A HINT CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM. AND IM SURE RAFA IS JUST SOOOOOOO OVERJOYED THAT YOUR DEFENDING HIM. YES I READ WHAT SEAGORVE WROTE.(NO DEROGATORY TERM TOWARDS YOUR SEXUALITY NECESSARY.):)
     
  13. SABuffalo786

    SABuffalo786 New Member

    May 18, 2002
    Buffalo, New York
    No need to yell.
     
  14. whirlwind

    whirlwind New Member

    Apr 4, 2000
    Plymouth, MI, USA
    Dude, hit that CapsLock key on the left side of your keyboard why dontcha...
     
  15. ricv56

    ricv56 New Member

    Jan 4, 2003
    Bellflower
    I might be wasting my time, but it's my day off, so I've got time to waste :)

    Just because the US scored two goals in each of the games Marquez played doesn't mean that Marquez was the one burned for the goals. Suarez was the one victimized in the Columbus qualifier, and was also exposed as painfully slow, it was about his 165th cap or so and by then he really didn't need to be out there. In the WC game, both US goals were scored because of intelligent runs made on the backside. Marquez was playing the cross in both situations, and had to come back and help guys who'd gotten beat and by then it was too late.

    Taking nothing away from Boca, he's a good player and is sure to get better, but he has a ways to go before he reaches Marquez' level and saying he's a better defender than Marquez is utterly, utterly laughable. At age 21 Marquez was a vital part of Monaco's championship team earning unqualified praise from guys like Didier Deschamps and Fabien Barthez. Furthermore, Rafa's value as an offensive player isn't in his ability to score goals, but his ability to start the attack from the back because he can play the ball out of there with his feet. If the US had a defender like that, it'd make life tons easier for Donovan.

    Blanco and Palencia definitely didn't set the league on fire there, but they both showed flashes of what they could do. The key difference between Marquez and those two is that Marquez is making it to Spain at a younger age than both of them and already has the experience of playing in a European league. Adjustment difficulties should be minimal in a move from France to Spain as opposed to one from Mexico to Spain.

    US fans wander over to the Mexico boards all the time, a few to post constructively, some to troll and while I've seen posts deleted, I've not seen anyone get threatened with a yellow-card, much less actually yellow-carded.

    In any case most of the US fans that come and spout nonsense are usually chased off because their arguments are ridiculous and they don't know what they're talking about. In fact, I could have sworn I saw you post there earlier, but not in a little while. . .

    It doesn't matter if Levante's defending Rafa, or if I am, and it matters even less if a half-wit who can't find the caps lock button on his keyboard like you thinks he sucks. He's a quality player, he's shown it to enough people to be linked to teams in Spain, Italy and England, and finally to make the move to a big club.

    ricv56
     
  16. lasoccervegas2002

    Jul 7, 2002
    this planet

    BIG mistake for Barcelona, why they had to waste money for him if there's a much better player in Carlos Bocanegra ? its the stupidest signing i've ever heard in my life.
     
  17. Kell Cantona

    Kell Cantona New Member

    Jul 10, 2003
    It seems that most of the people here know Rafael only 'cause of the Cobi "incident" back in 2002 *yawn*, and that's all you can comment on him and..well, that's old, I hope some of you get the chance to see him play in Barcelona, and hopefully you'll be objective, he is a very, very good player, otherwise he wouldn't be where he is, Joan Laporta was smart enough to sign him, True, mexican football fans are happy, but Barca fans are happy as well, because they know of Marquez quality, now if you can't see that, then ..er... that's fine too, lol, I doubt Barcelona, Rafael or...anyone cares about negative comments like yours.


    Para quien habla español.... para que entrar en polémicas? no tiene caso... lo único que saben de Rafael es por la expulsión del mundial, fuera de eso dudo que tengan conocimiento alguno de su técnica, ni nada... por mi parte estoy muy contenta, aunque soy del Real Madrid, no puedo evitar sentirme orgullosa de ver a Rafa en Barcelona, por que es algo muy importante para el, ojala que le vaya muy bien....>_< y a ver como nos va en el derby... que espero no llegue pronto...pero en fin, saludos!
     
  18. SCBozeman

    SCBozeman Member

    Jun 3, 2001
    St. Louis
    Serious sour grapes happening here. Best of luck to him (although I hope he's otherwise incapacitated every time the US players Mexico).
     
  19. striker

    striker Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    What he said.
     
  20. Levante

    Levante Member+

    Jul 28, 2001
    MLS_RM



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    MLS_RM.......on a good day.
     
  21. Levante

    Levante Member+

    Jul 28, 2001
    Bocanegra....

    Just wanted to make the point that he's a good player and I will not take anything away from him. He'll be in Europe someday.

    Besides...he plays for the Fire and he's an American of Mexican descent........just like me! :D
     
  22. Kell Cantona

    Kell Cantona New Member

    Jul 10, 2003
    Who's Bocanegra?... °__°
     
  23. Mario

    Mario New Member

    Mar 11, 2000
    San Salvador, El Sal
    Re: Re: Cobi's Friend in Barcelona


    :rolleyes:

    Kell, q bueno ver una chica en estos foros, lastima q del lado oscuro de la fuerza!
     
  24. Harry Potter

    Harry Potter Member

    Jan 30, 2003
    NY
    Re: Re: Re: Cobi's Friend in Barcelona

    bueno - good, chica - girl. That's all I got.
     
  25. Mario

    Mario New Member

    Mar 11, 2000
    San Salvador, El Sal
    Im asking her to join the blaugrana supporters!
     

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