Arsenal v Manchester United Post Match Thread [R]

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Motterman, Nov 3, 2007.

  1. Dooglas

    Dooglas Member

    Jul 30, 2005
    Las Vegas, NV
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    sorry had to reply probably because im bored, i dont want to have to teach you point by point but i will so you can understand with the rest of the class.

    1. if you think by making sure you call me a yank before you say something disrespectful that im not going to think you hate yanks...well sir you are dumb.

    2. you know nothing about me, or how i joined arsenal, i joined arsenal in a season where they won nothing, but again, thanks for assuming, makes you look like a complete fool.

    3. im sorry that im not as old as you are and forum posting is part of your list of hobbies..along with arguing with your wife and going to a dead end job everyday. oops sorry that was assuming...see how it sounds?

    ok, do you understand now? or do i need to bring up more points, we are top of the table, game in hand, keep thinking your the better team, if you were the better team you wouldve won, end of, but obviously your team lacked the mental fortitude or the fitness to keep us from scoring an equalizer in the end.

    you keep bringing up kansas and its education? i mean now we are resorting to making fun of where each other lives. I wish you could see yourself from other peoples eyes, you might learn something.
     
  2. Charleysurf

    Charleysurf Member

    Jul 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    You "joined Arsenal" in a season where they won nothing did you? Wow, I am so impressed with you now. I take it all back. I thought Newcastle and Man City fans had suffered for their team, but I see now that they are mere lightweights compared to your hardcore support of your team as you stuck with them through that barren season.

    Truly your heart bleeds red and white. I bet you're the "top gunner" amongst all your little Arsenal buddies. I bet all the Spurs fans in Kansas live in fear of ever meeting you.

    I woke up today and little did I realise that this was to be the day I would be introduced to the greatest fan in the world.

    Alone he battles against an unforgiving world, fighting the good fight via his monitor and keyboard, terrorising rival fan internet forums with the depth of his knowledge, the dexterity of his argument and the purity of his support for his underdog club.


    I salute you Sir. You are an example to us all.
     
  3. Dooglas

    Dooglas Member

    Jul 30, 2005
    Las Vegas, NV
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    i dont get what you mean? i was just disproving your point of me jumping on the bandwagon because there was nothing to jump on...but obviously you dont understand. sighhh and unfortunately there is no one around here on base that watches arsenal, i ask them and they say no...so im kind of on my own, unless i can get my happy crack to the bar at 6 am. time differences suck.
     
  4. argaen

    argaen New Member

    Jul 7, 2003
    Tucson, Arizona
    Thanks to playing together for a long time, Arsenal are clearly playing a better team game right now. We look like a team with loads of talent that has had injuries all over the field and are just starting to find cohesion together. You can claim to be the better team now; it doesn't even matter. At the end of the year, we'll be on top.

    Anyway, isn't there a basketball game on in Kansas? :D
     
  5. Dooglas

    Dooglas Member

    Jul 30, 2005
    Las Vegas, NV
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    guy i never said arsenal were the better team, and your right arsene actually has a plan for his team :) and your from arizona -.- not sure what your getting at.
     
  6. doug1500

    doug1500 New Member

    Nov 20, 2005
    USA
    You say that "we think we are the better team" yet "if we were we would have won." Then i next breath, "guy, i never said arsenal were the better team..."

    Look, if you're going to say you think Arsenal are better, say it. It's your opinion and I have no problem with it. Just stop pussy-footing around and say what you mean. Stop handing us ammo ;)
     
  7. Dooglas

    Dooglas Member

    Jul 30, 2005
    Las Vegas, NV
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    listen, get it through your thick skull....when i say if you were the better team you wouldve won...now lets apply that to me saying it to myself, i have to follow my own logic clown meaning that for arsenal to be the better team they wouldve had to have won...simple right...good job.

    and charley your a moron simple as. you talk as if you do not post twice as much as me on this board and they are are out galavanting your united flag for the world to see and shame on you if you post on bigsoccer...get over yourself hahaha.
     
  8. three lions

    three lions Member

    Apr 2, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    So, you support Arsenal and Liverpool? That's like saying " I support Germany and England"... Plastics....
     
  9. Numquam Moribimur

    May 30, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC

    errr Sir Manc does ARF !


    :D:D


    ps someone rep Charley :D
     
  10. three lions

    three lions Member

    Apr 2, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Okay, England and Scotland.. Excluding Teso though...:D
     
  11. samasimo

    samasimo New Member

    Aug 17, 2007
    Full Video Coverage HERE

    HQ Goals, HQ Highlights (including BBC match of the day) and the Full match (several versions)

    Also, there r some nice C. Ronaldo skills
     
  12. Achtung

    Achtung Member

    Jul 19, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Apparently, its actually Arsenal Ladies FC.

    That's right, we're being taunted with "you don't have a ladies squad". I'm sure there's a chant and everything.
     
  13. dan01

    dan01 New Member

    Aug 19, 2007
    The reverse was true in the previous season fixture where Scholes and Carrick dominated the midfield until the late second half when Rosicky and Fabregas bypassed Scholes with tenacious tackling, subsequently leading to the goals. Catch-22 situation?

     
  14. dan01

    dan01 New Member

    Aug 19, 2007
    DS, Is it possible to play in fifth gear in every premiership game - extreme pace coupled with pin-point passing?

     
  15. israbeckham

    israbeckham Member

    Jun 18, 2006
    California
    Nat'l Team:
    Israel
    Is it a coincidence that every Arsenal troll that comes to our board and post stupid things have only joined bigsoccer in the last 2 month?
     
  16. Dooglas

    Dooglas Member

    Jul 30, 2005
    Las Vegas, NV
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    well i guess he failed to realize the game was a tie and his team have weaknesses to :)
     
  17. FabregasTED

    FabregasTED Member

    Jan 2, 2007
    New Haven, CT
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Well as an Arsenal supporter who's cross posted on this board since long before the unbeaten run, let me say fair play to United, you have match winners all over the final 3rd, and if it wasn't for our new found steel, we'd have lost our second game at the Emirates (the last, of course, being the only game I attended at the new ground.)

    I have to say though, what DS posted about beating Clichy was right on. I KNEW the first goal was coming from that side, with Ronaldo pushing past Gael into a crossing area. It was just a matter of time. That said, I think overall that Cesc controlled the game in a way that isn't his most effective, but probably saved us the point. He was in the engine for everything today, be it relieving the back four, converting the play to the wings, or in the final third, his constant quality and decision making saved our hides considerably. Everytime he was on the ball he did the right thing it seemed, very reminiscent of a certain Mr. Scholes...
    So yes, Arsenal have some questions to answer before we can be in for the title run, but so do the boys from Old Trafford. Brown is an absolute liability as cover for Neville, and whenever Hleb would switch to the left, there were glaring match-up problems. Rosicky was tentative most of the game (still niggling?) and we really should've exposed him much more than we did. We missed van Persie tremendously today, and I think starting Eduardo (who's nowhere close to RvP but can fill a role) would've given us much more meaningful possession.

    I'm starting to believe in this team. I don't pretend that man-to-man our team is as talented as United, but there's a lot to be said about camraderie and resolve, and though the last goal was a bit sloppy, I don't think anyone can begrudge us scoring it.

    At the beginning of the season, I had Man United winning the title by 6-10 points over Arsenal, and I'll stand by that for now. Here's to hoping that the game in April means something special.
     
  18. littleman

    littleman Member

    Oct 18, 2005
    I can't wait till the African Nations Cup comes and players have to leave their various teams.

    Oh, and I was about the only one who got our entire formation right : )
     
  19. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    While I am not denying this, there is a difference in what the supporters(and dare I say, the owners) would be satisfied with.
    Most of your non-plastic fans would be content with a season of watching the 'kids' make mistakes but show enough promise for the future and finish 4th, the same clearly does not apply to us, or the RA-funded chelski nor the likes of Madrid, barca or milan.

    What this ensures is that arsene has a big selling point to all top youngsters in various academies of promising enough PT at a big club.

    So, all this talk (from some of your 'fans') about arsenal being the underdog club built on peanuts:rolleyes:, is OTT.

    I don't know the comment was tongue-in-cheek or not but Liverpool under Benitez are not a team which we fear - our record against them in the league has been 5 wins 1 draw 0 losses.

    chelski(imo, when fully fit, still the most difficult team to beat in europe) and
    pompey @ fratton park(hostile crowd, pacy counter-attacking team) would be games that I fear in the league.

    fair enough:)
     
  20. Dooglas

    Dooglas Member

    Jul 30, 2005
    Las Vegas, NV
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    i think you need some perspective, and vision kind of like arsene has...look at what those kids are doing in the prem right now, and this isnt even his end game...he still has plans going down right now.
     
  21. antifan

    antifan Member+

    Aug 14, 2004
    The Scottie
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Absolutely right. Can you imagine if Ferguson's team of high paid stars finished 3rd in back to back years? Or failed to land a major trophy for years at a time? Or suffered the indignity of coming in last in their Champions League group and not even making it to the UEFA cup? There's no way the board or the fans would stand for it. The fans would leave in droves and Fergie would be sacked immediately, right? ;)
     
  22. andrew neave

    andrew neave New Member

    Dec 20, 2003
    Las Vegas USA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Looking at what people have posted, I think its a good Point to win.
    The people on Sky were very biast in favor of Arsenal at one point some fool said " Now this is the real Arsenal" and yet again they said that Fabregas's goal was fantastic " when it was a simple tap in.

    We are on equal points with all to play for,,!!!!!

    The only other point i thought was relavant was, someone said that Arsenal only played with one Striker AT HOME, they only have one striker???????????? and Wenger thinks he has a great squad.
     
  23. Dark Savante

    Dark Savante Member

    Apr 24, 2002
    Become the Tea Pot!!
    Wenger's tactic defend his weak flanks was to attack with them. It was bold and it worked, in pockets, but it should have played perfectly into our hands and if we were playing a proper 4-3-3 Ronaldo would already be in the perfect position at all times to nail them on the counter. Ronaldo often leaves his RB isolated in big games because he wants to attack and for that reason we should aim to play to his strengths more than we do. He looked damaging every time we exploited the weaknesses down the flanks, so why not exhaust that option?

    Tevez was suppoed to be one of the players who would calm us and link play, along with Giggs, he failed at that quite miserably.


    I don't.

    For me, we used Anderson incorrectly in this match. He would have been more damaging if he was to have played in an AM slot. He was giving Cesc a lot to think about and could have occupied him even more if we'd have put him closer to him nominally. Anderson covered Hargreaves' arse too many times for my liking. But with no Scholes and no match fit Carrick nor a Fletcher eeven on the bench, I guess we did the best we could with the personnel we had close enough to fitness.



    It's certainly a big question mark over you for me. The northern teams will test your resolve and a lot of them have strong counters down the flanks that you don't like. Let's see how you get on.

    I find it amusing some of your fans think you flanks are impervious and you have no weaknesses. They are blindingly obvious, fortunately for you your side is very good at protecting itself with attack and possession.

    Clichy is decent enough in 1vs1's but he's easily led astray by a double-team or a drifter from the flanks same with Sagna. They are not strong as part of a defensive unit, but as individuals there athletism is going to make up for that in basic 1vs1 situations.

    Yea. Playing Anderson so deep and in such a high intensity game was probably a bit of a shock to his system, he rarely had time to look up and play and he'll get used to that in time, I felt he should've been used further forward.

    By the time Carrick had been introduced I felt we already had an upper hand in the half and that the game had changed shape quite a bit. All the tactical subs were being made around that time and it changed the pace and rhythm of the game quite a bit.

    It would have been great for Carrick to start, but a lack of match-fitness made that impossible.

    It's not extreme pace we needed really. We needed more control and composure. There was a passage in the 2nd half when we went a goal up where we looked like ourselves and played lots of passes between our side, we needed more of that and better system to finish those passes off with balls out to their weak flanks.

    The faster and harder you play, the more disarray you're in when you lose the ball, not so smart against a nifty attacking side like Arsenal.

    You obviously don't read my posts properly. You see any perceived slight to Arsenal as an insult, which is ridiculous. You have weaknesses at the back. That's not up for discussion, it is there for anyone to see. We have weaknesses as well - Vidic's lack of pace, erratic flanks, Rio's reluctance to go up for headers against similarly sized players as himself, but a lot of our faults can be ironed out. Your FB's are a permanent weakness that skilled enough teams will constantly exploit. It's the key to busting your defence wide open.

    I hope you last the pace. Fergie fires up the team a great deal to ward you off. He hates losing to Wenger... so it'd be great for us if you're the side pushing us along.

    RE. Brown. He's a mixed bag, but defensively he's OK. Hleb wll have most FB's in the league in fits his close control and conventional dribbling is probably the best in the league, no side is going to be comfortable with him running at them at pace. Wes usually lets us down on the offensive end not the defensive.
     
  24. impalemeplz

    impalemeplz Member

    Jul 7, 2004
    Sydney
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    as much as i hate brown i cant blame him, really, because hleb was a nightmare for every united player in that 2nd half. he only let himself down when he had that chance on the edge of the box. i think most other attacking mids score from there 8/10 times. alas, thats his weakness and he is still a supreme footballer.

    *quasi hleb rant 100% complete*
     
  25. dan01

    dan01 New Member

    Aug 19, 2007
    Hehe...this question was actually directed at Arsenal's game. It is not practical to play in the fifth gear at every premiership game esp. when the hectic schedule kicks in, isn't it?

    When United dominated in that quarter during the second half, it was more of inventiveness and quick decision making which led to the goals, right?

     

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