Manchester City @ Chelsea [R]

Discussion in 'Manchester City' started by CityBlues, Oct 25, 2007.

  1. Trident

    Trident Member

    Aug 20, 2007
    Montreal
    Oh my god...
     
  2. chinesefootballfan

    Oct 11, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    China PR
    Mod, please close this thread and as City fans, we never talk about this game again.........................

    It takes one word to sum it, UGLY!
     
  3. CityBlues

    CityBlues Member

    Jul 25, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A 6th goal, have our defenders given up?
     
  4. solid13138

    solid13138 New Member

    Feb 25, 2007
  5. Heist

    Heist Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That was my point... on at least 3 or 4 of the goals, Richards got beat and was seen slowly jogging toward the player shooting and then hanging his head. To say nothing of the rest of the City defense...
    I guess the rest of the league is on notice, Chelsea is back.
     
  6. CityBlues

    CityBlues Member

    Jul 25, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hope Sven has learned something from his lineup decisions in this one.

    Although, mostly the whole team looked flat as hell today. But NO Samaras, especailly not against Chelsea. Vassel in as a substitute? How about Geovanni, Bianchi....

    Whatever, this match was an awful display, it looked like out back four had given up by the end. No one expected this outcome, but you know what, we have been through worse with this team.

    Last year we looked like relegation! Lets be glad we are in the position we are in. We need to start looking realistically on where we are in the table and what we need to do to stay there. This loss doesn't help, but it would be even worse if it damaged our confidence going into the next few matches.

    We have Bolton next in the Cup, so we will take it from there.
     
  7. CityBlues

    CityBlues Member

    Jul 25, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I definitely understand your point Heist. Forgive me for my shortness earlier. While I do agree with you that Richards looked absolutely horrendous today, this is not typical of his defending.

    Our defense, admittedly did look quite ************ today.
     
  8. CityBlues

    CityBlues Member

    Jul 25, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What concerns me most about this game is I got the feeling that most of the players had given up on this game. Not that there was that much to play for but come on, what ever happened to fighting until the end? This does absolutely horrid things for our goal differential. It must looked like our back four lacked heart and determination today. Micah, so you gave up a few goals, no excuse to give up on defending. Garrido same deal to you, you know how your getting beat, adjust to the wings! Midfield, what the hell? Put in Geovanni, move Bianchi in for Samaras and try and start connecting some passes. Chelsea at any one point were hitting 10-15 passes, we would hit 3 and give the ball away. Midfield didn't have it, but at least fight until the end.

    As was said before, hopefully this is our absolute dire worst performance of the year.

    Sorry it turned out this way guys and girls. I am really pretty distraught at the moment. All we can say is move on from here, learn.
     
  9. chinesefootballfan

    Oct 11, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    China PR
    I definately agree. We definately deserved to lose this game. However, 6-0 is a very inflated result. I think by the time it was 3-0 Chelsea, City lost interest in the game and basically most our players no longer wanted the ball. Chelsea was looking for a big win due to it recent turmoil, therefore it was unrealistic to expect them to stop playing after leading 3-0. The more we quit, the harder the opposition played. The last 3 goals should not have happened.

    I am not worried, I think it was a nice honeymoon at the top 4 while it lasted. Let's focus on the Carling Cup against Bolton. It won't be easy because Bolton is in relegation and its only hope of accomplishing anything great is through the Carling Cup, so expect Bolton to throw everything at us.
     
  10. chief232

    chief232 Member

    Jun 29, 2007
    Mississauga, Ontario
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    Everybody has their bad days and today was one of them for you guys, but I am 100% sure that you will pick yourself up from this and be even better. You have a great squad and play very well together but today it just didn't happen. You will do better though and it was a pleasure playing you, and hopefully next game at the Eastlands will be a great one.

    Good luck on your next games, and you will recover from this and it will be better.
     
  11. Manchester City

    Jun 17, 2007
    Zaragosa, Spain
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    At worst (that is if Liverpool wins) we will still be in the Top four for at least another week. We will recover. I feel sick right now after watching the match, but it may turn out to be the best thing that could have happened to us. Our bubble had to burst at some time or another--we all knew it was coming. Our confidence was a bit inflated and the expectations for City (including our own) had grown to almost a hubris level. This result, as horrid as it was, has brought City and its contingent back down to Earth and should help us return to what we do best: hard-nosed, physical, fluid, defend-to-attack football.

    This is a blessing in disguise my friends.
     
  12. RegginaFan1

    RegginaFan1 New Member

    Mar 4, 2003
    New Jersey, USA
    "This is a blessing in disguise my friends."

    I agree to that too. Every team needs a wake up call now and then.

    As General Patton once said, "A pint of sweat saves a gallon of blood." Getting our butts handed to us by Chelsea is a real wake up call from a team that is a benchmark on excellence. We can use this to say we must step up, play the right players, and get in gear if we are interested in staying one of the top teams in the EPL.

    I also agree that ever team has bad days, but we should take advantage and learn from our mistakes so the next time will be different.
     
  13. chinesefootballfan

    Oct 11, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    China PR
    Thank you for your kindness. I must say, it feels pathetic to get sympathy from opposition supporters, and when you are getting pitty from the team who just beat you, it just reminds you of how poorly you did. :(
     
  14. Golasso

    Golasso New Member

    May 6, 2003
    Somewhere in Texas
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    RegginaFan:

    I agree with your feelings. SGE has a great motivation point to use this week -- he can look at the squad and say "Are you the team that beat United, West Ham, looked good for 80 minutes at the Emirates, or are you the team that quit with 35 minutes left at Stamford Bridge?" Especially Micah "I'd love to play for Arsenal someday" Richards. Based on his last 3 outings for City, he wouldn't break into their reserves. Hopelessly out of position for many of the goals.

    This is a good result for Thaksin as well - now he knows that owning a club is not all champagne and roses -- open the wallet in 8 weeks my friend.
     
  15. Alan D

    Alan D New Member

    Nov 5, 2005
    York
    This is the difference now to last season! A manager that speaks sense, that knows when something is wrong and will let his players know about it. I'm devestated by the result but just listen to Sven's post match comments. He'll turn it around.

    He knows what he is on about. The players will pick up their act for the next match. Stay positive, one match doesn't kill off a season, its where you are at the end of it and we cant expect miracles overnight. Thanks Master_Chief123, as horrifyingly bad we were Chelsea were equally as brilliant.
     
  16. thecitizen

    thecitizen Member

    Sep 29, 2007
    Orlando, FL
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I didn't get to see the match, but when I saw the final score, my heart felt like it had just gotten broken. It was as if I came in and saw my girlfriend kissing another person, thats really how it felt...I was numb. Sad day. (Please tell me why Samaras started?)

    Sven better hop on the team, because we need to have a real team and not a bunch of guys who hope for an Elano saver, we need to get a team where nearly everyone has the real potential to finish. I mean, our CAMs have more goals than our strikers(we need better strikers starting....please come back Bojinov!) If we would have matched some of Chelsea's goals in the beginning, then the game probably would have been alot different.

    We need to win our next match to show the Chelsea game was just a bad game, and that we really are an up and coming team that deserves some more recognition and that we are't just some fluke in the table.
     
  17. thecitizen

    thecitizen Member

    Sep 29, 2007
    Orlando, FL
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ...And if Shevchenko scores for Chelsea, there's gotta be something wrong.
     
  18. Alan D

    Alan D New Member

    Nov 5, 2005
    York
    Today is the day that we realise that we don't have a team of superstars. This will work in either of two ways. The players respond and come back with an amazing performance and put their heart and soul, or their confidence is low and they start a run of bad results. Normally with it being us I would say the latter but that was in the past - Even under Pearce we didnt lose 6-0 to anyone! But Sven knows football and trust him and if you look at the post-match interview its clear he wont accept todays performance. I couldnt believe the scoreline and at first I felt embarrassed and down but we have to be reasonable. Chelsea played probably their best game for absolutely ages and good on them, they played amazing today. We have a team of young, learning and unexperienced players and they all had an off day today but more times than not they will perform. We are building a team, not superstars and sometimes to go forward you need to take a step back.

    I'd change the team a lot for the game against Bolton. Get Isaksson back in goal and see how he does - I've not been massively impressed by Schmeichel or Hart and again they are young so we could do with more experience. Perhaps keep Corluka in and Dunne, drop Richards and bring in Onuoha, drop Garrido and bring in Ball, drop Ireland and bring in Geovanni and perhaps play 2 up front if we can. If Ball and Isaksson impress then I would bring them into the first team permanently for a spell. Swap Corluka to CB and Richards to RB as well.

    In January, Tiago, SWP and Defoe please Sven n Thaksin!
     
  19. CityBlues

    CityBlues Member

    Jul 25, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A shake up is definitely in order. I doubt Sven will go with the same lineup against Bolton. Surely drop Samaras. Geovanni needs to be playing, and in my mind Bianchi, who hasn't had a chance to prove himself.
     
  20. RegginaFan1

    RegginaFan1 New Member

    Mar 4, 2003
    New Jersey, USA
    ...and hopefully Bianchi is still recovering too. I'd hate to think he's warming the bench while the team struggles. We need our "killer B's" (Bianchi and Bojinov) in the game and upfront ASAP...
     
  21. thecitizen

    thecitizen Member

    Sep 29, 2007
    Orlando, FL
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree with your formation completely. We need our reserves to come out and show that ThHEY won't let a 6 nil loss happen and that they will play to the end. If will be healthy for the team if we get these players in because it will promote a competition for spots on the team. Knowing Richards is here for a couple more years, we need to show him he can't just start slushing around if we go down a couple goals. He needs to have the experience of being a national player who gets benched for a bad performance....to ultimately show that even though you showed off in many other games before, if your not playing good now, your not playing at all. SGE will see this too I think... he tends to want to promote a competition for first team places (But Samaras... I mean come on. He hasn't scored in ages, and only scored in the Carling Cup. He shouldn't be starting and playing for a full 90 mins against CHELSEA!)

    I am a firm believer in players like Vassell and Bianchi and Mpenza, but putting players like these in for our mids...what is that? Especially when we are down some four goals, Vassell and Bianchi are not going to be saving graces. They are damn good players but they aren't going to come into a 4-0 deficit with alot of motivation and confidence. I think SGE didn't make a really wise decision with the line ups, but he is still learning the team...so in time I ultimately have the confidence that he will pull us to become a "biggie"

    (SWP needs to come back to City where we love him and he won't get benched.)
     
  22. chinesefootballfan

    Oct 11, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    China PR

    this is off topic but

    oh come on, i admit he's not all that great in EPL, but the guy was tiering up Serie A in his prime, give him some respect will ya?:rolleyes:
     
  23. CityBlues

    CityBlues Member

    Jul 25, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well said Citizen repped.

    SWP would be a welcome addition.
     
  24. ForzaGrifo

    ForzaGrifo Member

    Sep 22, 2000
    Garrido was horrible. He was out of position in at least 2 of the goals. Let Ball play LB next match and let Garrido know he's not an automatic starter.
     
  25. Lynne_mcfc

    Lynne_mcfc New Member

    Aug 19, 2007
    GTA, Canada
    Sven on Samaras in the Sunday Express (taken from mcfc.co.uk):
    "Sunday Express

    "Sven sick of Samaras tricks"

    Sven-Goran Eriksson has assured Greek striker Georgios Samaras he still has a future at Manchester City – as long as he stops believing he is Ronaldinho.

    The City boss was ready to offload the £5million hitman in the summer after being unimpressed with his form in pre-season.

    Eriksson was fed up with watching Samaras trying clever tricks and flicks when he felt the frontman should have been using his powerful frame.

    The Greek star has since changed his style of play and was named on the bench for last Saturday’s win over Birmingham.

    Eriksson said: “What Georgios has to do is decide what type of player he wants to be."

    So, he threw him into the Chelsea match to prove a point? If I was a fellow Blue and my boss put someone in the starting line-up that didn't deserve it, I'd be none too happy. My every effort on the pitch would be wasted because of that player. The only way to deal with the situation, is not to pass the ball to him, cut him out. This was too crucial a game to mess with, from every point of view. This is the only game I've seen this season where we didn't pull together, no cohesion and no team effort - Samaras on the pitch?

    SGE had the opportunity to switch things around at the start of the 2nd half but didn't. Why did a good manager not make any changes? As in my previous post, SGE gifted them the game.

    We didn't play well against B'ham and now Chelsea. Let's hope our chins are not on the floor. Now we have to build that confidence back into the team. EPL next match Sunderland at COMS - let's hope Samaras isn't even on the bench and the rest of the team are once again proud to be wearing a blue shirt and our fantastic supporters get right behind them. Guess this is a nail-biter.

    Sad and still Blue
     

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