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  1. bofahey

    bofahey Member

    Sep 1, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Yes... at least Lot 7 (the old "racetrack" lot). That's where all the cars get routed from Lot 8 once it's full. It's also open for cars coming across the bridge. I think Lot 6 is just the half of the lot that's further from the stadium... that part doesn't fill.

    In any event, if this Nationals plan happens, one issue that will be huge to the Nationals and the city will be how to route the Nationals shuttles so that they can get back and forth between the Navy Yard quickly enough to make their fans happy (and not disturb RFK residents). Also, they are going to want to make sure Nationals fans have easy access to the lots.

    Wouldn't that likely involve them leaving through Lot 8 so they can go directly onto the SE Freeway?

    If this plans go through, I would bet that the Nats will control at least all of Lot 8 on their 81 home dates, which essentially means DCU will be forced to schedule around the Nationals again. Even if DCU was willing to forego using Lot 8, the congestion of having both DCU and Nationals fans parking would be too much considering how poorly RFK staff typically handles parking for large events.

    On the bright side, this won't be as burdensome to the schedule as sharing RFK, since there's no issue of having to wait ~2 days after the Nationals play for the infield sod to have taken hold.

    But this will likely mean we see a lot of weeknight games for as long as this arrangement stays in effect because half of the weekend dates will conflict with the Nationals.
     
  2. seahawkdad

    seahawkdad Spoon!!!

    Jun 2, 2000
    Lincoln, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One can only hope that DC United is one of the other events. I just wish there were more than two 'parties' for whom the arrangement needed to make sense.

    From David Nakamura's latest:

    Why is there even a question of whether the lots would be needed for other events? Why not just a flat out statement that among other considerations DC United's parking situation must be part of the equation?

    Bootsy, it would appear that when DC government assumes the position for baseball, we also could wind up getting reamed.
     
  3. Bootsy Collins

    Bootsy Collins Player of the Year

    Oct 18, 2004
    Capitol Hill
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is all conjecture and we'll just see. But if you're right about this, and the plans go through, and this happens, my disinterest in the Nationals will change into something a lot more ugly.
     
  4. MattMathai

    MattMathai BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 28, 2004
    Annapolis
    Hey, Bootsy!
     
  5. dcchelseafc

    dcchelseafc Moderator
    Staff Member

    DC United
    Sep 2, 2005
    Naptown
    Club:
    DC United


    because dont you remember RFK is done, there going to tear it down now :)
     
  6. fatbastard

    fatbastard Member+

    Aug 1, 2003
    Lincoln (ish), Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it is understood the main event is Unted parking, but there are other events that use the parking lot (some do not use the stadium at all, others do). Fair/carnival, concerts/festivals, flea markets, Police motorcycle training, maybe they'd even want to find a use for the racetrack ;)
     
  7. Blitz Crew Barra

    Blitz Crew Barra New Member

    May 4, 2007
    Bowie
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The nationals have enough fans to fill a parking garage up? That's news to me....
     
  8. Bootsy Collins

    Bootsy Collins Player of the Year

    Oct 18, 2004
    Capitol Hill
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Uhoh, what'd I miss there?

    dis·in·ter·est Pronunciation (ds-ntr-st, -ntrst)
    n.
    1. Freedom from selfish bias or self-interest; impartiality.
    2. Lack of interest; indifference.

    Is #2 a recent addition born of repeated misuse?

    Am I going to need an "embarassment" emoticon soon? Can we talk about astrophysics now?
     
  9. Hedbal

    Hedbal Member+

    Jul 31, 2000
    DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh, no! - Is Mr. Pedantic going to treat us to a discussion of "disinterest" vs. "uninterest"?
     
  10. MattMathai

    MattMathai BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 28, 2004
    Annapolis
    I will show my admirable sense of self-restraint
     
  11. Hedbal

    Hedbal Member+

    Jul 31, 2000
    DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh, forget it. I'm not disinterested in how such a discussion would come out, but I'm definitely uninterested!
     
  12. MattMathai

    MattMathai BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 28, 2004
    Annapolis
    Bingo on #2.

    My English teacher in 8th grade told us about a little trick for remembering the distinction that I've always remembered.

    Q: If you were accused of a crime, and there was plenty of evidence against you, would you want an uninterested or disinterested jury?

    A: An uninterested one. If they didn't care, they might not pay attention and might acquit you because they missed some damning evidence. If you had a disinterested one, they would view the evidence objectively and you'd be convicted.

    Yeah, the definitions don't work exactly, but there it is...

    You are the last person who needs to prove your smartitude (or whatever the English word is) to anyone.
     
  13. MattMathai

    MattMathai BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 28, 2004
    Annapolis
    :)


    Well done, sir.
     
  14. Bootsy Collins

    Bootsy Collins Player of the Year

    Oct 18, 2004
    Capitol Hill
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh no no no, it was more of an attempt to retreat to a comfort zone!
     
  15. DMP73

    DMP73 New Member

    Sep 1, 2001
    Alexandria
    What are you a transportation specialist now? You're missing the fact that the shuttles could leave from lot 7 onto Benning road, south on 295 and then to the stadium on whatever direction (N,E,S,W) Capitol street that is that runs next to the Nats stadium. That's probably just one way to get there from lot 7. As to your point on dealing with the Nats on at least half of our weekend games, you're wrong. Remember we also have weekend games on the road. It could (not saying it will) work out that DC is home when the Nats are on the road and vice versa. Then you would never have a problem of parking. You are slipping my friend. You can't see me but I'm shaking my head and wondering about how it is that you could fall so far from a "Rainmanesque" command of the facts. ;)

    Trust me, there is no one on these boards more skilled in the art of conjecture than O'Fahey. :D
     
  16. bofahey

    bofahey Member

    Sep 1, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Uh... I said half of the weekend "dates" would conflict with the Nationals, i.e., we'll only have the pick of the 50% of dates when the Nationals are on the road. Read closely, sucka mc! :D

    As to using Lot 7 for the Nats... I'm doubtful. First off all, there's probably not enough room in that lot alone. Second, it is an inconvenient lot to access from many directions, and you and I both know that the city has no interest in creating the slightest inconvenience for Nats fans just to appease DCU.

    There is simply no way IMO that they will try to fit Nats and DCU fans into the RFK lots at the same time. That means that the Nats parking plan won't happen, or DCU will be forced to schedule around the Nats. Which of those two do you think is going to happen?
     
  17. Colonial717

    Colonial717 New Member

    Aug 5, 2004
    Arlington, VA
    Frankly I think it is a great idea to have the Nats fans park at RFK during United games. These won't be the baseball diehards (who will have season tickets). These will be families with kids, who might talk their mom or dad into seeing a soccer game instead of a baseball game. Or it will be young people just looking for a good time, I am sure the Barra could do a great business with a simple "free beer with purchase of ticket" sign. :D

    Not to mention what DC United could put together. If baseball is going to screw us, I say we screw them right back.
     
  18. United_Caps_Fan

    United_Caps_Fan New Member

    Apr 25, 2004
    Alexandria,VA 134/35
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    Well, great idea and all, but you might want to qualify that the "free beer" is "at the tailgate BEFORE the match". Can, you imagine some poor sodding soul in the barra during the match wanting his "free beer" ?? I somehow think hed end up wearing alot more of it than drinking it. LOL! :eek:
     
  19. seahawkdad

    seahawkdad Spoon!!!

    Jun 2, 2000
    Lincoln, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey, there's always the possibility of both using the lots on the same day. Then, for those coming in from any direction, you could always claim you were going to the baseball game and get free parking...:D

    Unless DCU gets some of those $12. Then forget about it.
     
  20. Eastern Bear

    Eastern Bear Member+

    Feb 27, 1999
    Great Falls, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    I have a feeling baseball and the City already have an agreement on parking (which would screw DCU fans) and the City hasn't told DCU yet. They were probably hoping to have DCU sign the lease first and then break the news. :rolleyes:
     
  21. Hedbal

    Hedbal Member+

    Jul 31, 2000
    DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Smartitude". I like it. I like it a lot. It's right up there with Steven Colbert's "truthiness." It combines the words "smart" and "attitude," meaning something like "a smart guy who is going to make sure you are aware of it."
    Er..sort of like many BS posters, but with the cred to back it up. :)
     
  22. MattMathai

    MattMathai BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 28, 2004
    Annapolis
    Thanks. Just one thing, you ascribe that attitude to Bootsy when he does nothing to trumpet his intelligence. That was certainly not my intention.

    On the contrary, Bootsy is one of the posters who consistently enriches this board. I always enjoy his writing.
     
  23. Hedbal

    Hedbal Member+

    Jul 31, 2000
    DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As do I. I enjoy your writing, and Bootsy's, and all the many Big Soccer posters who employ the English language with wit and precision; as rapier and bludgeon. (This being Big Soccer, bludgeon usually takes precedence). Why, it makes me wonder what fabulous heights of badinage would be scaled were, say, Oscar Wilde, or G. B. Shaw living among us, supporting DC United, and posting here.
     
  24. Cweedchop

    Cweedchop Member+

    Mar 6, 2000
    Ellicott City, Md

    Trust me when I say this. Chester makes Anacostia look like Beverly Hills.


    You do not want to be in that part of town at night. It's a friggin dump and one of the worst run down neighborhoods in Philly.

    With that being said, with the new casino in Chester the nightlife, for lack of a better word, is better. However, anyone who's been to Atlantic City knows that throwing up a casino doesn't mean a thing in terms of rural improvement.
     

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