Best Current FSU Keeper

Blya, Dima just went wild today. Thank you for birghtening my monday, you Nostradamus of the pitch.

 

Xaaaxol

Apparently, Ukraine has no love for me. I hold you responsible.

 

I don't wanna be jerk, but when you think that Chernomorets will beat Zenit, and for some reason like and defend players from your country's national team... well, even Hezbolah will have no love for you.

Just to keep this relevant to the thread's topic, SASHO ROCKS!

 

kramarenko i wont say it but not really

is ukrainian keeper

but rinat dasayev is the best of the all time

 

After the last round where Berezovski made yet another save from PK, now he holds the record "Most saved PK in RPL" During his career in Russian top flight he saved already 11 PK.

 

IMHO, best current FSU Keeper is Andriy Pyatov

 

Correct.

 

bwahahha, who?????? This guy's supposed to be better than Akinfeev? hell outta here.


Whoever rates Shovkovsky needs a wake up call. The guy is garbage now and has cost Ukraine dearly plenty of times. Akinfeev is better by him by a mile. Where was Igor is rated throughout Europe, Shovkovsky is only rated by delusional Ukrainian fans.

 

Shovkovski is not having the best season but he may actually have a better goals against average than Akinfeev in the previous year. Shouldn't that be the measure?

And while we're at it, Pyatov is the Shakhtar's number one goalie. His GAA is even better.

I realize, we do not really have a measure of what Akinfeev can do now due to an injury.

 

The sooner Ukrainian fans realise how ************ Shovkovsky is the better. There's no comparison with him to Akinfeev. Igor's a world class goalie and is rated throughout Europe, Shovkovsky sucks, simple as that.

Pyatov? This guy plays against mickey mouse opposition and he'll need to put in some world class performances in Europe to be considered in the same league as Akinfeev.

 

Yea, Shovkovsky has basically pulled a Filimonov or Malafeyev in the last 2-3 years. I think he's done, or at least done at DK/Ukraine NT.

You couldn't be more wrong about Pyatov though. He's a fantastic keeper and probably one of the more talanted players Ukraine has produced in the last 10 years. He practically doesn't make mistakes and he's a solid shotstopper.

Also, just so you know, you're entirely underrating the UPL and the level of opposition there. It's not a very sexy league because basically all TV/advertisting/promotion/broadcasting is done on a very low-budget amateur level. The level of actually play is only a slight bit lower than in the RPL.

 

c'mon now. Be honest with yourself. If the plays was only slightly lower than the RPL's than the league would be much more competitive and not a two horse race every year.

 

I am honest with myself. Dynamo and SHakhtar have close to 90 players each in their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd squads. They're a duopoly(?) when it comes to squad depth and usurping talented youths in the ukraine. THe other teams don't have the depth/quality to compete with DK/SD all year long.

What youre judging the leagues on is basically presentation and promotion. WHat I'm judging them is the actual strength of their players. If Russian and Ukrainian leagues were merged, I'd bet that SHakhtar would be champs, DK would finish 4 or 5th, Dnipro probably 5-6, and with midtable Ukrainian and Russian teams being spread evenly around without any easily discernable pattern.

 

The RPL is miles ahead in terms of quality of players. First off, Russian players are of a higher quality than Ukrainian ones imo, and Russia has many more quality foreign players.

 

no they're not lol.
aside from a good uefa cup run by cska both ukrainian and russian teams have been sucking equally bad in europe over the last five seasons. and that's despite the 'better quality russian players' and 'better foreigners'

 

Pyatov shut out Celtic and Benfica this season already. Are they also mickey mouse opposition? And if they are shouldn't Spartak then be as well?

 

That is just silly and totally untrue!

Man, you should do comedy stand up.

 

You just believe in fairly tales

 

How is it not true? C'mon debate with me, I want to hear your side of the arguement.

 

Okay Dimuha, firstly tell me please in what of the Russian clubs foreigners better than in Shakhtar? And explain to me why so many of UPL players playing in their NT's?

 

Ok, Shakhtar, You want me to compare Russia's foreing players with that one club? Let's see.

Daniel Carvalho ( capped international )
Vagner Love ( capped international )
Jo
Krasic ( capped international )
Dudu ( capped international )
Odemwingie ( capped international )
Ivanovic (capped international )
Tymoschuk ( capped international )
Dominguez
Maxi Lopez
Kovac ( capped international )
Jiranek ( capped international )
Danni
Mozart
Spahic
Rahimic ( capped international )
Zheder (capped international )

These are just off the top of my head.

Now shall we compare the Russian players in the RPL to the Ukrainians in the UPL?

Bystrov
Zhirkov
Arshavin
Pavlyuchenko
Sytchev
Progbenyak
Ignashevitch
Akinfeev
Zyrianov
Bilyaletdinov
Titov
Loskov
Karyaka
Torbinskiy
Anyukov
Semshov


No comparison. Ukraine's onyl quality foreigners come from SD and their domestic talent is nowhere near Russia's level. Any objective person would agree.

 

Kryaka, Torbinski, Zyryanov, Ignashevich will not start in the best UPL clubs, they may start in the likes of Kryvbas.

Bilyaletdinov, Semshov, or Loskov are no better than Husev, Shelaev, and Nazarenko.

I'd take Hladky over Anyukov, Pogrebnyak, or Sychev.

For every RPL name, I have a UPL name.

Dynamo has 6 internationals (Shovkovskiy, Rotan, Vaschuk, Husev, Nesmachniy, Milevskiy), Shakhtar has 6 UPL internationals (Shust, Pyatov, Kucher, Hladkiy, Chigrinskiy, Yezerskiy), Dnipro has 6 internationals (Nazarenko, Sviderskiy, Rusol, Hrytsai, Shelaev, Vorobei). That list includes 11 WC Quarterfinalists, by the way.

Now, let's look at foreigners (only current internationals of different levels or otherwise notable players):

Shakhtar:
Luccarelli (Italian international)
Lewandowski (Polish international, WC2006)
Srna (Croatian international)
Ilsinho (Brazil U-21, U-21 WC champion, 1 match for the senior Brazil NT)
Castillo (Mexican International, WC2006)
Rat (Romanian international)
Hubschman (Czech international, WC2006)
Luis Adriano (Brazil U-21 U-21 WC champion)
Igor Duljai (Serbian international, WC2006)
Zvonimir Vukic (Serbian international, WC2006)
Fernandinho (Brazil U-21, U-21 WC champion)

Dynamo:
Bangoura (third best Ligue 1 scorer last season, Guinean International)
Diakhate (one of the best Ligue 1 defenders, Senegal International)
Gavrancic (Serbian International, WC2006)
Benghasouani (French U-19 international)
Farkasz (Hungary U-19 international)
Kleber (former Brazilian U-19 international)
El Kaddouri (Maroccan International)
Shatskikh (Uzbekistan international)
Correa (former Brazil U-17 and U-19, U-21 WC champion)
Busic (Croatia U-21)
Markovich (Serbian International)
Ghioane (Romanian international)
Ninkovich (Serbia U-21)

Karpaty Lviv:
Nalepa (Polish International, 2 matches)
Christian Kirovski (Macedonian International)

Metalurh Donetsk:
Bechiri (Albanian international)
Neziri (Albanian international)
Daniel Fernandes (formerly of Barcelona)
Jordi Cruyff (has a famous father)
Emmaniael Okoduwa (Nigerian international)

Chornomorets Odesa:
De la Haza (Peruvian international)
Korytko (Belorussian international)
Jimenez (3 matches for Argentinian NT)

Metalist Kharkiv:
Ganczarzhik (2 matches for Polish NT)
Guye (Senegal International)
Mahdoufi (Maroccan International)
Obradovic (7 matches for Serbian NT)
Zeze (Cote d'Ivoirian international)

I have no time to search for more.

 

Haha, what the hell are you doing naming some no name foreigners? lol. if they're sooooo good why the ******** is the UPL so uncompetitive? ha.

You're delusional man, funniest fan I've ever had the pelasure of talking football with. I especially liked your comparison of Bilyaletdinov and Loskov to some nobody's. hahahah.

 

Sounds like you're a sore loser, heh. I named 6 WC participants, 4 U-21 WC champions. And I did not even mention the 14 WC2006 quarterfinalists. And who the hell are Bilyaletdinov and Loskov? Glorified nobodies. Nobody cares or knows about them outside of the kolkhos they're playing for right now.

But hell, you can continue to live in a delusion of your own making.

 

Hey I'm a fan of the kolkhos Bilyaletdinov is playing for right now, and I remember that Kolkhos knocking out both Shakhtar and DK in the 2004 CL.