La liste des joueurs retenus pour les matches contre les Iles Féroé et la Lituanie

Discussion in 'France: National Teams' started by SuperSebGrimaldi, Oct 4, 2007.

  1. Rima067

    Rima067 New Member

    May 10, 2004

    Uh, wouldn't it be surprising if he did have a go at them?
     
  2. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    The ones I want to see, after knowing the list. I don't want to see Domenech using 2 DMs against The Faroes. NO way.

    Yes, Diaby can play either wing, although he mostly plays left. IMO he'd be a better choice for RW because he can't use his left foot. Another thing against him is that he's not good to defend, he fears going for tackles.

    The good point is his speed, and he's improving with long balls, particularly high long balls. I'd be very interested to see him as a RW with les Bleus.
     
  3. deleted

    deleted Member

    Aug 18, 2006
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    before the squad was announced, they would expect him to have a go fully

    so now he's not going to, and seeing what they can come up with instead of defending.

    or, domenech really really wants to make sure that things are tight and france WILL get two 1-0 wins which is all that's needed anyway.

    I mean he's leaving NOTHING at all to chance.
     
  4. alain_9510

    alain_9510 New Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Seattle
    I can't recall him ever playing on the right for us. He's mainly played as an attacking midfielder, box-to-box midfielder, and left winger. I can remember him playing up front once, and as a pure DM once.

    EDIT: BTW, in the past most Arsenal fans would tell you that he's wasted out wide, but he seems to be getting used to it finally. He scored this goal a couple weeks ago on the left. (The first goal).

    [youtube]cOjBgPgvSLo[/youtube]
     
  5. SuperSebGrimaldi

    May 28, 2007
    Scarsdale, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Well, what a shocker. There is a striker on the squad who is injured, and I don't think it'd take very long for anyone to figure out who it is. Yes, it's Louis Saha who is questionable heading into the 2 qualifiers. It is another tough break for him, but he is expected to head to Clairefontaine to clarify the issue with Domenech who will confirm his injury (apparently not being on the MU team sheets isn't enough for the boss).

    I think since I've been here, I've always been against having him on the team, though I mean, you kinda have to feel for the guy.

    Anyway, I suppose the big question is whether Trez should get called back into the team. I think that you all know what my opinion is, and it appears a majority of France (60%+ according to an online poll) agrees that he should be back in the squad.
     
  6. AfrcnHrbMan

    AfrcnHrbMan Member

    Jun 14, 2004
    Philly
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Poor Louis. It's sad really. Some people just don't have the body for professional sports i guess. Well of course Trez should be called in now. It's all a matter of if he's willing though. I'm sure some of the guys could talk to him.
     
  7. SuperSebGrimaldi

    May 28, 2007
    Scarsdale, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    I'm going to laugh if Domenech decides to add Rio Mavuba to replace Saha. After all, it's alright to have 6 defensive midfielders, right? :rolleyes:
     
  8. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Yes, what the heck, if Saha is out, call Trez.

    Diaby is definitely improving as a winger, but he can't use his left foot so I want to see him play to the right. I suspect that may be his natural position. But who can guess what Domenech is planning.

    I wouldn't be surprised if he in fact calls Mavuba to replace Saha, lol.
     
  9. SuperSebGrimaldi

    May 28, 2007
    Scarsdale, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Apparently now Philippe Mexès is injured and is <<incertain>> for the qualifiers. Though there are some here who will disagree with me, I think this is a big blow for France because Mexès is the best French defender in my opinion (key word there: my opinion), though one could argue defense is arguably not a huge concern against the Faroes and Lithuania, though hey, anything can happen.

    Though both he and Saha have yet to be "confirmed" injuries, it does look as if they'll miss these 2 qualifiers.

    Anyone have any thoughts on who should replace him? Bodmer because he has a good long range shot and can play in defense? Squillaci? Another Arsenal player? (I don't know if Clichy is capable of being a center back.)

    I think as long as it isn't Jean-Alain Boumsong, France will be alright. Oh right, he's out injured anyway.

    An interesting note is that France have won every match Philippe has appeared in.
     
  10. SuperSebGrimaldi

    May 28, 2007
    Scarsdale, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Indeed, Louis Saha has confirmed that he is out for the 2 qualifiers. Could it be a sad end to a player whose international career once thought could bear so much fruit? I will say yes, he's now been surpassed by the likes of Benzema, and one could argue it'd be much more productive if a highly skilled and versatile attacker such as Ménez is taken to Euro instead.

    In any event, as aforementioned, Philippe Mexès is also on injury watch. David Trezeguet's cellphone is also being monitored should he be receiving a call or a call-up very soon.
     
  11. SuperSebGrimaldi

    May 28, 2007
    Scarsdale, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Well, as it turns out it appears Trez's cellphone won't be ringing because Domenech apparently won't replace Saha with anybody!

    http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/breves2007/20071009_152635Dev.html

    Right. That makes sense. I mean, call up a guy like Rothen to deliver crosses, one would assume, and when one striker who has aerial ability goes out with injury, one does not replace him with another whose aerial ability would be even better?

    I hear that "Raymond Domenech and the Order of the Illogic" will soon outsell
    "Domenech for Dummies."
     
  12. lefutur

    lefutur Member+

    Sep 2, 2004
    Brooklyn, NY US
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    he's an idiot if he doesnt call up Trezeguet now. period.
     
  13. AfrcnHrbMan

    AfrcnHrbMan Member

    Jun 14, 2004
    Philly
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    This is ridiculous. Abosolute snub from Trezeguet. How can he do this? This has to mean we've seen the last of Trez with Raymond in charge. He's back in the serie a and on form apparently, and scoring bags of goals. What do you want from him?!?! And I'm not even that big of a Trez fan. Inexplicable.
     
  14. footykid

    footykid Member+

    Jan 10, 2005
    Mississauga, Ont
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    You'll find that diaby is more offencive minded than Vieria. He's probably the ideal partner for Makelele, in that he's fast enough to a) attack and defend almost seamlessly, though he is lacking in first-team experience. But there is one thing every Arsenal player can do and its attack, even Flamini our little work horse had 5 goals last season, for less than 10 starts.

    Speaking of diaby's left foot he set up a shocker with his left foot against Newcastle in the carling cup if you feel up to a youtube search.
     
  15. deleted

    deleted Member

    Aug 18, 2006
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I wonder what domenech's plan is now?

    Seems strange what he is doing but maybe they have something that will work...
     
  16. SuperSebGrimaldi

    May 28, 2007
    Scarsdale, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Well, instead Domenech has called up Hatem Ben Arfa, which is actually not a bad choice as he's an attacking midfielder (as opposed to Makélélé, Toulalan, Lassana Diarra, Diaby, Flamini) and that he's among those I'd pick to make the final Euro roster anyway as he's got the skill to make the difference.

    Nevertheless, tactically I'd think it better to pick Trezeguet, though hey, Domenech didn't call up an off-form Cissé or a mediocre Piquionne (I'm an ASM supporter, if you recall), hence I think that France are satisfied to some extent, as it could be worse.

    Hmmm, at this point, I have to wonder when Jérémy Ménez will get called up.
     
  17. guignol

    guignol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 28, 2005
    mermoz-les-boss
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    France
  18. SuperSebGrimaldi

    May 28, 2007
    Scarsdale, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    I'm happy that you're happy, guignol, and more importantly perhaps, I'm happy that Hatem is happy. I really do think one will see all the stars of that U-17 team (Nasri, Benzema, Ménez and Ben Arfa) in France's Euro roster. That's how I would have it, were I sélectionneur, anyway.
     
  19. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Good call. Ben Arfa can play as #10, even, if Ray goes for the 4-diamond-2 I'm asking.

    If he calls Ménez I'll be very happy, too.
     
  20. clocktower

    clocktower New Member

    Jun 22, 2007
    It's too bad TV5 decided not to show the faroe islands game. that would have been a lot of fun. 5-0 at least.

    Obligatory lol @ Trez's situation. Sometimes I wish Domenech would just leave, but there aren't a lot of good replacements on the market.
     
  21. SuperSebGrimaldi

    May 28, 2007
    Scarsdale, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Hindsight's 20/20, though you wonder what would have happened had Laurent Blanc been given the reigns instead of Domenech. Though Blanc has yet to prove himself completely (and he did lose to OL at home 3-0), I believe that France would have played a more attractive style regardless. Also, none of this harping on any U-21 matches, or wives getting text messages nonsense.

    France would also see more of Frey (a teammate of Blanc back when he was at Inter) and Mexès (who has always been trying to emulate Blanc), who are a much better sight to see than Landreau/Boumsong.

    Then again, I'll be fair that other than Wenger, I don't believe there's a truly elite French manager out there. Perhaps Didi Deschamps. Guy Roux if one has the powers of Hiro on Heroes.
     
  22. guignol

    guignol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 28, 2005
    mermoz-les-boss
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    lolo blanc? why not JPP while you're at it? the only guy in that group who's really shown enough to be considered is didi deschamps. et encore...

    domenech has been managing for TWENTY-TWO YEARS including 14 in some capacity at clairefontaine. the only other shoulders that big are wenger, houllier and tigana.

    as for guy roux, he would be the absolute wrong man for the job even if he was at his prime; he was able to take a little club from the sticks and make it hit above its weight, but outside that he would be lost. even lens was beyond him, and not just because of his age.
     
  23. SuperSebGrimaldi

    May 28, 2007
    Scarsdale, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    I mentioned Blanc because he was one of the candidates who were mentioned for the post after Santini left. He was arguably the choice of the players, especially Zizou and Fab. I don't see why it's that important to have "22 years of experience" in order to be a sélectionneur, as with Domenech, he had experience with the U-21 team. Managing that is not the equivalent of managing a big club well there'll always be much pressure. When Domenech was U-21 sélectionneur, it is not as if not qualifying for the Euro would kill him. Yes, there are some who would be disappointed, but it doesn't come anywhere close to the considerable pressure in qualifying for a senior tournament.

    In any event, this is all moot as it appears France is stuck with Domenech, though if I were France, I would not shed many tears if his horoscope this month read "the end of your days is approaching at your job. Go home to your wife and observe her if she's exchanging text messages."
     
  24. rizzuto123

    rizzuto123 Member

    May 3, 2006
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    At least France And Italy share something in common:






















    there coaches are both idiots. :D
     
  25. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Is any web site showing the game live?

    I'm in Canada and depend on TV5 to watch France's matches real time. Otherwise I'll have to wait until the evening to see it in the cable channels. :(
     

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