Criminal, absolutely criminal call against Bocanegra

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by HighburyForever, Sep 13, 2007.

  1. HighburyForever

    HighburyForever Red Card

    Oct 15, 2006
    Wooloomooloo, New South Wales
    Club:
    Zenit St Petersburg
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    I don't know if anyone has seen this yet, but it's a reverse angle shot of the foul call that lead to Ronaldinho's free-kick goal. ESPN never showed this because it's from Brazilian TV.

    Not only was the call criminal, it's also one of the worst dives I've ever seen:

    [youtube]kXT5PqY-4xE[/youtube]
     
  2. brainer 99

    brainer 99 New Member

    Jan 30, 2006
    Wow, what a horse sh1t call. They never showed a good replay on ESPN, but you could tell that Boca was suprised and REALLY upset. That ref was lost during the whole game.
     
  3. BarefootWonder11

    BarefootWonder11 New Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    Tennessee
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can understand sometimes an exaggeration of a foul but that was a blatant flop. To be hardly touched if at all and to hit the ground like you have been run over by a freight train is simply unacceptable. Brasil is good enough to score without that kind of play it is pointless. To make this even worse is the yellow card Bocanegra received. Absolutely riduculous. A player should never get away with a silly dive like that.
     
  4. joeginto

    joeginto Member

    Jul 16, 2006
    Chicago
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    to be fair...this is the same ref that took back canada's goal in the dying moments of the gold cup semi-final (also at soldier field) with the phantom offside call. the guy is absolute rubbish. i dunno where they yellow comes in. i really wish they had video replay afterward so they could give a yellow to that diving little ***** on Brazil and rescind Boca's.
     
  5. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Wow, that's amazing.

    What was that people were writing about how Brazilians have class, don't dive, and so forth? That was as blatant a cheat as you will ever come across.
     
  6. HighburyForever

    HighburyForever Red Card

    Oct 15, 2006
    Wooloomooloo, New South Wales
    Club:
    Zenit St Petersburg
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    I think the yellow card on Boca was for dissent. He immediately went up to the referee and yelled something right in his face - probably something that would get most people banned from this message board.

    Two wrongs don't make a right; CONCACAF firing this guy would though ;)
     
  7. KennyWoo

    KennyWoo Member

    May 21, 2007
    Pasadena, California
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow, after seeing this replay, can you blame Boca if he got into the ref's face and said "**** you, **** your mother" and "I prefer the whore that is your sister," all while giving the ref a two-fisted flip off?
     
  8. The Wisdom Cube

    The Wisdom Cube New Member

    Oct 7, 2005
    Clemson, SC
    He's had a terrible year, but that's certainly not gonna happen. He reffed the WC semifinal between Germany and Italy last year and did a good enough job for the official world cup documentary to go out of its way to commend him on his performance:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_E_alvXqUw&mode=related&search=

    (seven minutes into this clip)
     
  9. Bizz

    Bizz Member

    Aug 19, 2003
    Needham, MA
    IIRC correctly, he reffed very well in the WC in not going yellow card happy while still losing control of a game like in that Netherlands/Portugal match.

    The foul looks like one of those cases where the ref's focus followed the ball after being passed, but caught the brazilian falling out of the corner of his eye--and he went with the call.
     
  10. mercury3164

    mercury3164 Member

    Apr 30, 2007
    Manhattan
    well he did get the yellow on robinho for diving right, so i can't completely bash him...but he really missed on this one and the wolff PK so basically he cost us the game.
    Whatever it happens
     
  11. DoTheVillage

    DoTheVillage New Member

    Jul 19, 2007
    Whatever. First I 'd like to say the US did a far better job then I expected but if you watch the Video

    What the Fu*K is a Brazilian doing in the wall?

    Blame the ref... Might as well Blame it on Hoffa.

    I learned in grade school to oust opponents from the wall. Watch the video yourself. Who's head did the ball go over?

    That is a Naive mistake.
     
  12. KALM

    KALM Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Boston/Providence
    I would be incensed right now after watching that if it weren't a friendly.
     
  13. sswange

    sswange New Member

    Apr 9, 2007
    Philadelphia
    First of all thank you much for the great coverage.

    Do you think that games should be officially reviewed for flopping? Being from the USA this is the biggest critisism I hear about the game. At least if refs were carding, or taking back cards after games I could say that things are being done.
     
  14. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's just f*cking ridiculous.

    FIFA should ban that player for at least 10 games for that kind of shit. Seriously, is that the kind of message you want to send to people? No wonder why diving is such a problem in the world. I can handle a miss call like the Wolff debacle, but when a player blatantly cheats like that makes you understand why some people bash soccer! and it's because of that shit right there. Holy f*cking shit! that just drives me mad.

    FIFA really needs to take note from the NFL were they can stop the clock and review the play.

    Brazil. you suck. you have no class, no honor, and no integrity. i'm sorry that you had to CHEAT to beat us. best in the world my ass. you f_cking cheaters. i'd rather lose every game then cheat like that.
     
  15. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    oh and thanks Bobby Convey for being a lil bitch and ducking out of the way.
     
  16. dcpohl

    dcpohl Member+

    Feb 9, 2007
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I knew we were in trouble when I found out it was Archundia, but I didn't know it would be that bad. Archundia shouldn't be allowed to referee anymore big games and by that I mean anything more than Caribbean friendlies. :) Game should have been 3-3.
     
  17. mcadaal

    mcadaal Member

    Apr 11, 2007
    Virginia Beach, VA
    All I have to say is.............. WOW
     
  18. Dadinho

    Dadinho Member

    Feb 19, 2005
    San Diego
    Club:
    Vitoria Salvador
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The feed might be from Brazilian TV, but that isn't Portuguese.

    Horrible dive.
     
  19. Rise and Fire

    Rise and Fire New Member

    Apr 6, 2007
    Iowa City
    I can't quite decide which call is worse- that one, or Josh Wolff getting pushed down without a penalty call.
     
  20. inswinger

    inswinger Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 17, 2001
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    I haven't seen anyone mention this, but the shove on Wolff, properly called, would have resulted in both a PK and red card to Lucio, and thus changed the entire dynamic of the game from that point on.
     
  21. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A RED card? Uh, why? No one on earth would call that a red on Lucio, even if this were the WC final, let alone a friendly. Yellow, maybe...

    Yeah it's a bad call on the free kick, though. Oh well.
     
  22. Dynamo and ArsenalFC

    Aug 5, 2006
    Beaumont
    good ole brazil...joga bonito:rolleyes:
     
  23. fitbaed

    fitbaed New Member

    Apr 7, 2004
    It wouldnt bother me if Bobby Convey never played for the nats again
     
  24. arsynic

    arsynic Red Card

    Jan 2, 2007
    Santa Barbara
    boca negra making fun of the referee is hilarious, however
     
  25. Acekiller

    Acekiller Member

    Jun 19, 2007
    Los Angeles
    The replay doesn't show it too well, and the play of action is too distant, but it SORT OF looks like Boca used his elbow near the player's face, and THAT is why he got carded. That is the ONLY reason I can think of for the card, and consequent FK. No lower body contact, no body contact, but it looks like Boca's upper arm is up.

    And Convey is indeed a little bastard for ducking. Idiot.
     

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