new evidence in the Chilean U-20 fight

Discussion in 'Canada' started by jadger, Jul 30, 2007.

  1. jadger

    jadger Member

    Apr 12, 2006
    Kanada
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    And I'm guessing you do know what it feels like to be tasered? and why when police are being trained on the use of tasers, they are each themselves tasered so they know what it is like, so they dont misuse them.


    and LMAO at that "report", it calls a 17 year old druggy "a child". BUT if you will notice in that report: none of the deaths has been directly attributed to use of the taser

    not to mention Police have no way of knowing how cranked up these people are, the drugs affect the body differently and allow them to attack someone while if they were sober they would be immobile. that is what happened in almost all those cases.

    and can you please point out one case in that report were any police officers have been found guilty of stepping over the line and punished for it? BECAUSE THERE ISNT ONE

    Amnesty International isnt all it is cranked up to be, when 3 prisoners in Afghanistan said they were mistreated, all of a sudden Amnesty International cranked it up and released it to the press as Canadian soldiers torturing prisoners like Abu Graihb.
     
  2. guppy

    guppy New Member

    May 19, 2007
    Aquarium
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nepal
    Well I'd rather it be there than not be there. Their mission is fight for human rights, and being human, that's ok by me. Also they are alternative news source, and I like having that ... I don't trust the regular media all that much since its owned by giant corporations, and I certainly don't trust politicians to tell me what is really going on. Who do you believe?

    I don't really have an issue with tasers, though. I mean people can get hurt being wrestled to the ground, anyway, including the police. A headlock can be dangerous to somebody in an unhealthy state, as well. Some people are completely crazed (not saying the Chilean players were; like I say, I still don't know what happened, and that bothers me). What are the police to do in those situations ... risk their lives?
     
  3. guppy

    guppy New Member

    May 19, 2007
    Aquarium
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nepal
    no worries here ;)
     
  4. jadger

    jadger Member

    Apr 12, 2006
    Kanada
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    personally, I take everything I hear from "action groups" or groups with an objective with a grain of salt until I hear it from somewhere else also.

    also, Donzerly has gone way off-the-rocker with this one, he ignores the fact that the players did have weapons (improvised ones) and were using them to inflict bodily harm on police officers. a perfect example of where tazers can be used. Also, tazers can be used if the officer thinks there may be concealed weapons on the person.
     
  5. guppy

    guppy New Member

    May 19, 2007
    Aquarium
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nepal
    Sure, why not. They can get it wrong, just like anyone else.:)

    And ya, I can't say they shouldn't have been used, cuz I dunno how it got. I know I'm repeating myself, but all I want from the police is a timeline of events ......
     
  6. donzerly

    donzerly New Member

    Feb 24, 2002
    Toronto
    You're really grasping at straws here while sinking fast.

    Not even the self-serving police report alleged that the players had weapons -improvised, concealed, or otherwise. Your argument is based on fantasy. Even if they did "think there may be concealed weapons" that's not a legitimate use of tasers. Otherwise they could use tasers on anybody and everybody, and say afterwards "I thought he may have had a concealed weapon"!

    In order for police officers to be "found guilty of stepping over the line and punished for it" the police themselves would have to charge them. That fact alone is enough to explain why it hasn't been done in Canada.

    Of course that wouldn't worry you, since you are obviously content to let the police have the last word on their own conduct. You would have gotten on just great in Gen. Pinochet's Chile!
     
  7. jadger

    jadger Member

    Apr 12, 2006
    Kanada
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    you're delusional, do you actually expect anyone to take you seriously when you dont even understand the Canadian legal system? And yes the Chileans had weapons, they were ripping apart their bus and throwing objects at cops... classified as projectile weapons. How else did the windshield get a huge crack in it? The Chileans admitted they trashed their own bus, it wasnt the cops.
     
  8. Viruk42

    Viruk42 New Member

    Jul 23, 2007
    Ottawa
    I vote for an end to this thread...too much stupidity.
     

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