Canada Expansion (Montreal/Vancouver) Superthread

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  1. DoyleG

    DoyleG Member+

    CanPL
    Canada
    Jan 11, 2002
    YEG-->YYJ-->YWG-->YYB
    Club:
    FC Edmonton
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Yet the team is only succeeding thanks to it's contingent of foreign players. The team won't have the Canadian talent to take them over the top. The reason for that is the lack of a domestic league.

    Players aren't going to be uprooted from their communities just to play on an MLS team with no hope of advancement. The salaries aren't good enough either to lure them away from their own communities. Communities where their presence in building the sport would be far more useful than dropping them onto an MLS team.
     
  2. Krammerhead

    Krammerhead Guest

    As mentioned above it's a university stadium for university sports only with the exception being the CFL football team. It also has permanent gridiron lines and advertisements painted on the pitch, as you can see in the photos.

    The impact prefer to play on real grass with soccer markings only. Plus playing out of a stadium where you can squeeze in 11,000 for games creates a demand for tickets. They wouldn't have that same demand playing out of a 20,000 seat stadium.

    Plus the stadium they presently play in is rent free.
     
  3. 1TOFC

    1TOFC Red Card

    Jul 7, 2007
    Toronto
    Re: MLS NW again up for grabs

    CSL might work if you tied teams to mls.Example have the TFC send thier 2nd tier players to the Lynx and so on.

    CSL was killed because Dale Barnes was an Idiot.MOst of the high level soccer in Ontario was rivalries like Toronto Italia, First Portuguses,Serbian WHite eagales,croatia Ukrania and a few more. In the early seventies these team consistently outdrew the NASL metros.
    Dale (i have no vision) Barnes would not let the teams into the CLS because of the ethnic ties. Lost chance set game back 50 years
     
  4. the shelts

    the shelts Member+

    Jun 30, 2005
    Providence RI
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC

    Very true Krammer, you have to create an 'event', where people are concerned if they can even get tix.

    Gavin, what you fail to grasp is that no domestic league Canada could ever support would have no possibility of paying anyone anything near to what they would need to make them stay.

    You are right when talking about a Thunder Bay Chill situation, but the fact of the matter is Montreal and Vancouver do not consider themselves minor league towns. They both have the groundwork for an MLS team. Its whether or not the MLS can con someone into paying the expansion fee in those cities.

    Anyone who thinks a Canadian city not named Toronto, Montreal or Vancouver could ever support, let alone be awarded an MLS team is just deluding themselves.
     
  5. Krammerhead

    Krammerhead Guest

    The final capacity numbers are in on Saputo stadium. It will seat 12,531. They still intend on creating an event in their new stadium.
     
  6. Macksam

    Macksam Member

    Aug 2, 2007
    Brampton, Canada
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    When Toronto FC's exclusivity runs out at the beginning of 2010, some other owner should try and land a second franchise in Toronto. We're all talking about Vancouver and Montreal but the GTA can probably support two more teams.
     
  7. Krammerhead

    Krammerhead Guest

    Lets all come back to this post in a couple of years when the new stadium and new team hysteria die down in Toronto.
     
  8. jagoffski

    jagoffski Member

    Jul 22, 2007
    imo i think the mls should only concentrate on the U.S. and only the U.S. for the next 20 years then maybe canada and mexico.....never
     
  9. jagoffski

    jagoffski Member

    Jul 22, 2007
    MAN!!!!! ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!!!thats 5 seconds of my life ill never get back
     
  10. Macksam

    Macksam Member

    Aug 2, 2007
    Brampton, Canada
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Don't get jealous. Toronto isn't going to die down. This support is only a fraction of what is to come.
     
  11. Krammerhead

    Krammerhead Guest

    You must be a little kid, and a couple of years seems forever to you. Like I said, lets wait a couple of years and then talk.
     
  12. vyertago

    vyertago Member

    Jun 8, 2006
    Vancouver, not Montreal, was specifically mentioned in LA/Toronto game tonight as possible for MLS expansion.
     
  13. RedandWhite

    RedandWhite Member

    Jul 5, 2005
    Canada
    On ESPN2 both Montreal and Vancouver were mentioned as possible future expansion teams.
     
  14. CakeYear

    CakeYear Member

    none
    Jun 22, 2007
    Inglewood, Ca.
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy

    slowly slowly put down the pipe.
     
  15. vyertago

    vyertago Member

    Jun 8, 2006
    hmm if that is true than I just missed that.
     
  16. Macksam

    Macksam Member

    Aug 2, 2007
    Brampton, Canada
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Says the person who is so dead set on seeing Toronto's support die off.
     
  17. TorFC-TML

    TorFC-TML New Member

    May 5, 2007
    Toronto
    Sounds to me like they are saying whenever Montreal and Vancouver get their SSS's built there will be a spot for them in MLS.

    There was an RDS article awhile ago and it definatelty sounds like Saputo Stadium is now going to be closer to 18K, which will suffice. Vancouver's downtown stadium is already scheduled to have around 19K capacity, so it's just a matter of that one getting the money and getting built.

    I predict Montreal for 2012 and Vancouver by 2016.


    And two more GTA franchises?:eek:

    Lets get ourselves a second NHL team first, then we'll think about that. :rolleyes:
     
  18. Macksam

    Macksam Member

    Aug 2, 2007
    Brampton, Canada
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    We could sell out five NHL teams in Toronto and the surrounding GTA. You could have two more teams downtown that would sell out, a team in Brampton, and a team in Mississauga. No doubt in my mind. Hell, I think Brampton could support an MLS team as well.
     
  19. Krammerhead

    Krammerhead Guest

    Not dead set on it, just being realistic. Seen it happen before.

    You Torontonians really need to stop being so defensive.
     
  20. AlexCap

    AlexCap New Member

    May 22, 2007
    And you wonder why the rest of Canada aren't fans of the Toronto area.

    I'm a Toronto FC fan who lives in Montreal and find it great the support they are getting. I have to admit I was a little worried, but the fans have responded and will continue to. But, you're being a little dilusional about what kind of support ANY area can give.
     
  21. Macksam

    Macksam Member

    Aug 2, 2007
    Brampton, Canada
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I'm from Clear Water, Britsh Columbia. However, I have lived most of my life in Brampton.

    Also, I find your assumptions a little unrealisitc.:D
     
  22. Macksam

    Macksam Member

    Aug 2, 2007
    Brampton, Canada
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Alright, maybe not five NHL teams but definately four.
     
  23. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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