Three images? Is that it? They should've put in some like those above to give some context, so people could see how it worked as a whole. When you look at the top view, you can see what they are trying to achieve, and i think that this roof pic sells it better than any of the ones they released today.
I'd rather have a classy and understated brick stadium that will stand the test of time (like Anfield or Fenway Park or somesuch) than have some hideous shiny spaceship that looks like it was rushed to make it in time for the World's Fair. I hate to be that guy, but it's ugly and it's gonna look ridiculous in a few years.
Parks are made memorable by the moments _inside_ them. How many people do you know that still want to visit Camden Yards? I don't know any.
Granted, but that's not what we're talking about. This design is trendy, period. That's fine for your living room, cause you can change that. But this is a stadium. Make it big and use brick. Have it blend in with the neighborhood so people feel at home there, cause in many ways this is their home. This isn't a f'ing museum or design showpiece.
Brick was trendy, just in a different area. Plus, there is no neighborhood, it' a park that will be developed according to plans that fit the stadium. Your points are valid about the design, and it is very eccentric. But, it is no different than the plans for the new Mestalla or the Allianz Arena. Besides, your tastes are just as out-dated as anyones. The inside looks fine and that is all I'll remember from when I am there.
Everyone's entitled to their opinion and you can be 'that guy' . I think that this design is a breath of fresh air- its very European, and one that challenges everything you thought a stadium should look like. Put it this way- would you rather have the above- or this below? The old design is bricked, classy, symmetrical but yet totally & utterly BLAND!! Liverpool FC is not bland- its not a beige club- we are a unique club, and we deserve a unique stadium- and since we are doing it from scratch- I think that this new design wont date. The thing you have to remember, being smack bang in the middle of a park, it is visible from all four sides, unlike Anfield which was half hidden amongst the terraced houses. I think by addressing all four sides in a unique and individual way reflects the actual context of the site. Don't be put off by 3 x dodgy renders- I'm sure that once complete, we will have a stadium that will be the envy of all.
I totally agree that the inside is what matters, but as an architecture "fan" I like to argue about this stuff. In my opinion it's ugly. There is a recent trend in stadium design to have this big shiny buildings that look sorta cool right now, but it won't later on down the line. Brick is not cool, but we're only worried about the inside right? So who gives a shit? Why not make it timeless and not worry about it? Imagine if your city had decided to have Patrick Nagel paint huge permanent murals back in the '80s. You'd be pretty bummed about now.
Oh, I agree with the brick. But, sadly, I don't think "real" brick will be around much longer. So, brick really won't be very timeless at all. Classic sensibilities are dying and stadiums will be the focal point of large, modern, epicenters of commerce. There's no room for "brick" in that future. I think that the open, independent stands, plus the glass encasing gives it a unique feel. I like the curved roof over the Kop end. I wish the main stands were a bit steeper. The only thing that I could see being "toned down" is the angles on the outside. But, as el-cap said, the real deal won't be as exaggerated... I wouldn't think.
Oh, and don't tell me I don't get what you're saying. After all, my favorite ballparks of all time were Ebbetts Field, The Polo Grounds, and Fenway.
Here's the website of the architectural firm behind the new stadium: http://www.hksinc.com/ They've designed most of the stadia here in Dallas- the new Cowboys stadium, American Airlines Center, Pizza Hut Park (where my local club, FC Dallas plays), and even a horse racing track, Lone Star Park. If the new Liverpool stadium is anywhere near as great as the venues here in Dallas, it should be well up to the standards of LFC.
I think it does incorporate glass into the roof- like I said- its hard to get a full grasp of the concept from the few images they've released. I'd like to see proper floor plans & elevations so I can absorb it properly.
Second thoughts... Don't be worried about real brick ot being around much longer, especially in England. It's going to be around quite a while there as a building material. I feel there'll be plenty in the Anfield Mall on the old site. I like the concept a lot more than the original one.The traditional brick facade with the wavey bowl shaped roof just didn't work. The new 4 stand interior is just a great concept and keeping the Kop idea going is outstanding. Like you I hope the area along the sidelines doesn't flatten out at the bottom like the artist rendering. The exterior still needs working a little, it really isn't quite right yet and I'm afraid that in , what, 10, 20 years, it will seem dated. Plus in a city like Liverpool it's going to have to be kept clean. I'm still excited though and hoping it will open on time but with the work force and unions in England I somehow doubt it.
Its fantastic. outside its abit OTT, but inside its traditional I am so glad it isnt a bowl, they suck donkey balls
New train station for the increased capacity stadium will only cost about £5 million or so. http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/...objectid=19522803&siteid=50061-name_page.html It is estimated that Liverpool will earn an extra £60 million from gate receipts every year from the new expanded stadium. Plus more in catering income and a possible £100 million from a limited duration naming rights sponsor. If you look at these sort of returns then spending £300-£400 million on a new super-stadium is well worth it.
A good article by Tony Evans, The Times's deputy sports editor, on hopes that the tradition will walk on, too.
That new Cowboys stadium is gonna be everything that is good, and bad, about professional sports today. Just ridiculous. http://stadium.dallascowboys.com/
The video board is everything wrong with professional football. Why pay attention to the game when you can watch the replay in the 60 yard wide jumbo-mega-tron. I don't think I'll ever need any more proof that football fans aren't actually "fans" at all. They are "spectators". Which is why American soccer is having such a hard time. Soccer isn't a "spectacle" in the US.
Soccer live is a participant sport in the best places. The Kop, La Norte at the Bombanera, etc. Standing singing supporting. Not sitting on your ass with a super sized plate of nachos and a 78 oz coke or beer like product (Lite anything).
while the look is 'modern', who is to say it will be outdated in 10 yrs? who is to say people won't be clamoring for the 'conservative' look of anfield as designers try to one up each other? being in the park will be remarkable. i can't wait to see it.
99.9% Of my time at Anfield was spent in the Kop standing. Nice article. Yeh, wasn't it at the Rebock or was it Emirates