The Official SuperLiga thread [R]

Hey becks, we won!

Becks:yes, but you wankers buhnker the whole bloody game.

Tough lose for Pachuca, their defense is quite a mess.

 

Calero should retire period. They need to give the kid Blanco the starting role. Pachuca still in pre season mode, they looked good under the circumstances. Nothing surpised me from that spazzo bunker approach. Lugo seems to be to his same old self and being nowhere except for a goal he scored.


I enjoyed seeing la Chilindrila play, he gives the team the well needed boost. Also Chitiva is quite a player like always

 

Rey and Lugo are a bother to the team, the creative guys on the pachuca side really don't the trust(sure this only pre-season) with those guys.Cacho will bench both of them.

Calero is one slow mofoquer, you were great but now its time for Blanco.

 

OOOPS!

 

Rafael Marquez and Luis Grabriel "el fiasco" Rey are shit......I watched the first half and pachuca was playing well, but no strikers, I didn't watched the second but I guess the pre-season caught up to them......
And the first game was more like a Primera "A" match thats why Reynoso and Santano looked some what good........

 

I guess I jinxed them.

no worrys, Pachuca gets pwned by houston then has to wake up.

Tommorrow is another day.

 

I think its funny how they are having a party over there at their boards Like if they witnessed the greatest accomplishment in the history of the MLS. Then again it could be but too bad its more then likely a mexican will take the cup and the money.

 

Well to those MMLS teams really is an accomplisment........so let them do their shit....................

 

Hall of Fame post

 

Who's Pachuca's 2nd keeper .. Cota Or Blanco? none? who was on the bench today of them 2

 

i'm sure they will be claiming now that they could compete and win in the mfl and that they should be allowed into libertadores and sudamericana. i look at all this as a scrimmage for our teams.

 

The officials for Superliga are not MLS officials... That official was Walter Quesada of the Costa Rican league..

 

Serious Question:

Why are many of you so against this? The games last night were very entertaining and very well played. Why is there this assumption that the mexican teams dont care?

I agree the format needs to change next season to help better legitimize the event, and from what i hear that will be the case as this is sort of an experimental run this year.

I read through all these posts here saying this is a joke, we will kill them anyway, its pre-season, etc. Why dismiss it out of hand before it even starts?

 

Maybe because .. the season is about to start for the FMF...
Injuries for once... some games even interfere with the FMF schedule... I'd really hate to loodr a key player due to a "SuperLiga" game

 

But those same dangers exist in Sudamericana and Libertadores compotition, why is Superliga any different with respect to injuries?

Also the other compotitions interfere directly with the FMF season, IIRC Chivas and America and other clubs involved in Libertadores had a direct conflict with the Appatura Playoffs.

I see many of the same arguements with respect to the CONCACAF club event. "Its a crap tournement", "clubs don't care about it", "waste of time", etc. It almost seems that FMF fans would rather just say f off to CONCACAF all together and would rather just be a part of COMNEBOL. WHile i am no big CONCACAF fan myself, it is our federation and I would think a stronger and better club rivalry and compitition within would be in both our best interests. Also, it seems like FMF sides are generally treated like step children in S. America and sort of unwanted guests.

I am one that believes the US's recent surge in the sport has greatly benefited Mexico. Having a real rival in the region has forced Mexico improve and think differently about the future of their programs and their mentality. Its a good thing. I also feel it is due to Mexico's long reign in the region that has enabled the US to also improve. I can see the same happeneing at the club level.

In fact i see a lot of similarity between the current club situation and the US-Mexico national team situation 15-20 years ago.

While i think Superliga could be improved in the future (home-away, more clubs from the region), i dont see why so many want to dismiss it out of hand before its even been fully played.

 

i think that this is a fair point, and i'd like to hear some of ya'lls opinions on it.

personally, i think that the superliga has a lot of potential. it may be a hindrance to both leagues right now due to fixture congestion and bad scheduling, but this is the kind of competition that could really blow up in the future if done properly. this could be concacaf's best chance at a decent continental competition... because let's be honest. fifa has repeatedly dropped the ball with the champion's cup or whatever the hell they're calling it these days.

 

Re: MLS-Mexican tourney

I didn't hear anyone complain about Pachuca and Chivas playing pre season MLS teams in the CONCACAF Champions Cup........there might be a little bit of hypocracy flying around this thread...

 

Re: MLS-Mexican tourney

The CCC is a important tournament. The Superiga isn't.

 

May have to do with the fact that even the managers and teams directors don't think highly of this tournament, for many reasons, the format, the officiating, and also that is is not the best way to choose a team for Libertadores.
The Mexican teams are in pre-season stages, missing some key players, so I don't think is going to be a walk in the park, but last night's LA-PACHUCA game was not such a bad game.

 

Re: MLS-Mexican tourney

The CCC is a legit tournament, the Superliga isnt. In the case of the CCC, i dont think the nations in the region can help it that the MLS refuses to hold their season when every other federation does. Mexican teams are damned if they win, and damned if they dont. MLS fans always come in with the excuse that its MLS preseason when they get whipped, and when they win they claim that an in season MLS team would dominate.And for clown that compared Superliga to the Copa Sudamerica and Libertadores, those tournaments actually hold prestige, not like this MLS money grab tourney.

 

Re: MLS-Mexican tourney

Of course the CCC is more "important" than a first year tourney, but what I am talking about are the folks saying that nobody should care about winning or losing since it's Mexico's pre-season.

During the CCC nobody from the Chivas or Pachuca said "well, we didn't really win because it was Houston/DC's pre season".....they beat the team in front of them and moved on....just like LA did last night. No excuses. Just play.

Though I would say that anyone who doesn't see the potential for this competiton in the future is being willfully ignorant, or there's some ethnic/national bias that some people need to work through.....

A rising tide raises all ships.

The FMF and MLS can ONLY benefit by more competition between the leagues....Unless you want the CONCACAF to just eternally feed on the table scraps of CONMEBOL.....

The FMF the potential, (and thus agreed to the SuperLiga, nobody FORCED them), the MLS sees the potential, I don't see why their fans (particularly the FMF) can't see it too....

 

Re: MLS-Mexican tourney

Check out the Pachuca thread right now. The "preseason" is being used as an excuse as to why the Galaxy won last night. I would say if folks don't like the MLS using that excuse for the CCC, then they should probably keep quiet right now.

Are you under the impression that Morelia, Pachuca, Chivas and America were somehow FORCED to play this tournament by the MLS?

I love the argument that somehow the SuperLiga is fake, and the others are not.....you are aware that the Sudamericana and the Libertadores would vanish in an instant if they didn't make money, just like the SuperLiga will if nobody goes or cares.....there is no magical authority saying "this tournament is real, and that tournament is not". Football isn't a charity. It's ALL about money. That's all.

 

Re: MLS-Mexican tourney

That is exactly it. They play this tournament just for the money, while the Libertadores gives the teams prestige.