Whats next for u-20 players?

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by pavonYsuazo, Jul 14, 2007.

  1. peleorei

    peleorei New Member

    Jun 7, 2007
    Denver
    Zizzo showed flashes of brillance in the tounry. He did not have a good final game but for a college player he is a heck of a prospect and that in 2-3 years could be a stud with the right training and playing at a level that will force him to develop.
     
  2. green94

    green94 Member

    Jan 1, 2007
    Minneapolis
    Club:
    Hamburger SV
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Real Lake Salt?
     
  3. Dynamo Kev

    Dynamo Kev Member

    Oct 24, 2000
    It's only slightly worse..
     
  4. Prenn

    Prenn Member

    Apr 14, 2000
    Ireland
    Club:
    Bolton Wanderers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Real? How much per pound?
     
  5. Missionary

    Missionary Member

    Jul 13, 2003
    Mission Viejo
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Szetela's contract is up in October. He will be free to go where he wants.
     
  6. Ronaldo's Idol

    Jun 13, 2004
    Regardless of what you thought of Rogers crossing ability, he skinned his man probably 95% of the time on the wing vs. Austria, even after the game starting swaying toward Austria. It was amazing...that right back must've been pretty embarrassed.

    Talk about a terrorizing winger. Arjen Robben would be proud of that success rate.

    I think Rogers was absolutely fantastic and possibly MOTM. So I guess we differ.
     
  7. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    And this is the guy who was a part time player in League One last year (with Carlisle).

    As to Fredy's fees -- if Andres Guardado with 24 Mexican caps went for ~ $7.25M + 25% sell-on rights, then Freddy Adu with one cap is worth ... eh, a lot less.
     
  8. WJMarx

    WJMarx BigSoccer Supporter

    May 5, 2003
    Boulder, CO
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So is Jimmy Jones! He is the GK for the local U-8 AYSO side. He needs to work on growing. Those high shots are tough!!!
     
  9. Missionary

    Missionary Member

    Jul 13, 2003
    Mission Viejo
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I watched the replay and you are correct.
     
  10. Soccer_Lancer

    Soccer_Lancer Member

    Jun 30, 2004
    Orlando, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think Altidore is going to go anywhere. RBNY and Arena are good enough for him to get better right now. Adu, Rogers and Zizzo are all very good. We know Adu wants to go but don't know much about the other two.

    As far as those who are down on Zizzo and Rogers, I have to dissagree. The one skill that they both showed that is better than most current US forwards at any level is their desire to run past people with the ball. This seems like such a no-brainer for wingers but think about our senior team. One of the biggest complaints against people that play that position is that they don't try to burn past people enough. These two don't have that problem. They just need to keep at it and refine their skills.
     
  11. manutd02

    manutd02 Member

    Oct 23, 2002
    My comments were more directed at his previous performances, as he did have a better game against Austria. But while he may have beat his defender that often, what came of it. I can remember only one good ball he played across the box. And you also have to look at the number of times he slowed play down at midfield because he had absolutely no clue what to do with the ball. But overall, it was a much better performance from him.

    We do differ and that's fine. I hope he proves you right, but I have my doubts is all.
     
  12. ddw31089

    ddw31089 New Member

    Jun 14, 2004
    Gothenburg, Sweden
    And uncapped Pepe, Gonzalo Higuain and Raul Garcia went for $38M, $18M, and $12M. So judging by the inverse relationship between caps and transfer fees then it seems Freddy could go for anything between $7.25-38M;)

    Caps obviously aren't a major factor in transfer fees. Especially for players who just turned 18... And I think you know that as well.
     
  13. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    I brought Guardado up because Mexico is roughly on par - FIFA/Elo ratings-wise, quality-wise, performance-wise - as the US.

    The Brazilians and the Argentines are rated much higher on all the above criteria.

    Plus, the Yanks have seen Guardado quite a bit this year in the winter "friendly" and then in the Gold Cup and Copa America, so he's a well known player/reference point to most of the fans and the BS visitors.
     
  14. Nic D in BIG D!

    Nic D in BIG D! New Member

    Jul 14, 2007
    DFW
    Man! Guardado is a terror. If I were starting a team He, Toja and the Mapp kid from the fire are my starters in the mid field all day, every day!

    Love that kid!
     
  15. lmorin

    lmorin Member+

    Mar 29, 2000
    New Hampshire
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do you think either one can compete with Convey, Beasley, Dempsey or Donovan? Senior international defenders will stop Rogers and Zizzo cold.
     
  16. green94

    green94 Member

    Jan 1, 2007
    Minneapolis
    Club:
    Hamburger SV
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why? Simply because their big bad senior defenders or because Rogers and Zizzo are American and theres no possible way they'd beat the big bad senior defenders. Explain yourself.
     
  17. Beazley17

    Beazley17 Member

    Dec 30, 2006
    South Florida
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dont know if anyone said this, but what about Wallace? I thought he played great for most of the tournament. The last games officiating was harsh
     
  18. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Wallace has a great left fullback body but he is signed for 3 1/2 more years with FCD.

    And he has Chris Gbandi to compete with for the fullback spot, Juan Toja for the left mid and, more remotely, with Arturo Alvarez for the left attacking mid/wing spot.

    A Prem league squad would loan a guy like that out.

    But this is MLS.
     
  19. fscat

    fscat Member

    May 2, 2005
    Chicago, IL
    Your right, the level of SPL play isn't that much better than the MLS, but I believe the coaching to be better. Also if he does well at Celtic, there's a much better chance of another club in a better league picking him up.
     
  20. lmorin

    lmorin Member+

    Mar 29, 2000
    New Hampshire
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Both Rogers and Zizzo are straight-ahead dribblers without enough variety to their games. Yet, anyway. Remember what Agoos did to Adu? No contest. Experienced defenders always have the advantage over new players unless they bring something truly special to the game (as Donovan and Beasley did). If Rogers and Zizzo have futures as senior Nats players, it will not happen soon because neither begins to approach Convey (assuming health), Beas, Donovan or Dempsey when they were younger, let alone now.
     
  21. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dint want to start a new thread but at the Galaxy vs Chelsea game my friend had talked to Jorge Salcedo and he said he had lost his best player Sal Zizzo to Germany.
     
  22. Principal Firebush

    Principal Firebush Smorgy Borgy Borgy

    Jun 20, 2006
    Ohio
    My first thought was Hannover 96. Any ideas?

    Maybe we need a Zizzo speculation thread.
     
  23. thedude83

    thedude83 Member

    Jan 29, 2007
    Kansas
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    He's young. that's what young players do, they get loaned out to lower leauges to gain experience. I wouldn't really consider him a part time player, he either started or was the first sub off the bench in every game he played. and once he found his form towards the end of the campaign he was Carlisle's best attacking player.
     
  24. BuffloSoldier

    BuffloSoldier BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 31, 2000
    Northern NJ
    Let's wait for something a bit more concrete; no offense to the good doctor.
     
  25. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    none taken thats why I dint start a thread

    But a team was never mentioned. He just said that he with a German team.
     

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