Copa America - Brazil x Ecuador - [R] pre, in, post-game thread [R]

Discussion in 'Brazil' started by Ombak, Jul 3, 2007.

  1. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Same bat-time, same bat-channel as the Mexico game. (Yes, no matter where you are).

    I'd like to see:

    Hélton;
    Daniel Alves, Naldo, Juan, Gilberto;
    Mineiro, Gilberto Silva, Josué;
    Anderson;
    Robinho, Afonso Alves

    Maicon and Elano are still questionable so they could rest.

    Naldo and Afonso Alves would be good choices based on the poor play of their counterparts.

    Instead, right now it looks like the only changes will be Julio Baptista and Josué coming in for Elano and Anderson.

    What's most disappointing is that Dunga, like other coaches before him, claims he'll use the whole squad, but has missed every opportunity to do so, only changing when forced to.
     
  2. Sir3y

    Sir3y New Member

    Jun 27, 2007
    Lineup announced by Dunga on GolTV news:

    Doni;
    Daniel Alves, Alex, Juan, Gilberto;
    Elano, Mineiro, Anderson, Baptista;
    Robinho, Vagner Love;
     
  3. NitrousOxide

    NitrousOxide New Member

    Jul 31, 2004
    Serravale San Marino
    I like Daniel Alves in for Maicon, but would dunga start him if maicon was not injured ? I doubt it :rolleyes: It seems Love and Elano are untouchables. I would like to have seen Anderson and Diego in the field together, since our creative part in the midfield has been the weakest link in the team. Baptista has alot of strenght and speed but no touch, his passing is not that great. Lets see what he can do.
     
  4. Sharles

    Sharles New Member

    Feb 6, 2006
    ''my own world''
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    no Gilberto Silva :confused: are u sure
     
  5. omajac

    omajac Member+

    Feb 9, 2002
    East Orange, New Jersey, USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    He's the captain he has to play!! Baptista will be on the bench, I'm still predicting a 3-1 win!! Ecuador will score 1st from Mendez and Elano, Robinho and Diego, will come off the bench and score!!

    Mexico will beat Chile 2-1!!
     
  6. old_carioca_in_nyc

    Jan 26, 2007
    Has anuone seen why Dunga decided on Doni instead of Helton as goalkeeper?

    Why not include Diego in there - he can do some good plays
     
  7. hectorcrib

    hectorcrib Member

    Mar 27, 2007
    In a 6.0
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Dunga does some weird sh*t with the lineups, Diego and Afonso were given 45 minutes in this Copa and they havent played ever since, looks like V.Love and Elano are too good to be replaced.
     
  8. Joelzinho

    Joelzinho Member

    May 23, 2005
    Montreal!
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    This game is today (Wednesday)?
     
  9. Latin Pride

    Latin Pride Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    In your house
    Club:
    Olimpia Asuncion
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    What a suprise :rolleyes:

    We can win this, but not by alot... we're gonna suffer... as we have been suffering the entire Copa so far.

    I'm dissapointed Diego is not starting, I hope he atleast gets some playing time

    I say a grueling 1-0 or 2-1 win for Brasil
     
  10. Bronaldo

    Bronaldo Red Card

    Apr 8, 2007
    Canada
    -------Silva------
    ------------Mineiro
    ------Diego------
    Robinho------Anderson
    ------Alves------

    I think that would be better. Elano has been invisible all tournament. Love is terrible. Anderson and diego can play together and it will lesson the load on robinho.
     
  11. frostdude1

    frostdude1 Member

    Aug 2, 2004
    Canada
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Cant wait ... is this must win or can we draw aswell ? and I wanna avoid Argentina in the second round
     
  12. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    The only thing that could actually eliminate us at this stage is a loss followed by a Colombia or USA win to make up for their -6 or -5 goal differentials.

    EDIT: Or Ecuador could leapfrog us with a win by enough goals.
     
  13. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    UOL is saying:

    Doni; Daniel Alves, Alex, Juan, Gilberto; Mineiro, Gilberto Silva, Josué, Júlio Baptista; Robinho, Vágner Love

    Elizaga; Oscar Baguí, Espinoza, Guaga, Reasco; Valencia, Ayovi, Segundo Castillo, Edson Méndez; Félix Borja, Cristian Benítez
     
  14. omajac

    omajac Member+

    Feb 9, 2002
    East Orange, New Jersey, USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Naw we will make it to the QF's!! My issue is who's more dangerous to us Paraguay(who's been a thorn in our asses much recently) or Argentina??

    Cause from the look of it Uruguay will most likely face Venezuela again and Peru will face off v Argentina or Paraguay with us getting the "leftovers"!!:rolleyes:
     
  15. Joelzinho

    Joelzinho Member

    May 23, 2005
    Montreal!
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Is this game going to be on GolTv tonight?
     
  16. Sir3y

    Sir3y New Member

    Jun 27, 2007
    Yeah tonight on GolTv at 8:45 EST.
     
  17. Joelzinho

    Joelzinho Member

    May 23, 2005
    Montreal!
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    So big...Thank you very much. How come they do not have that listing on the internet?
     
  18. XaviandXabi

    XaviandXabi Member

    May 4, 2005
    CT
    lets face it guys, as long as Dunga is coach, V.Love will be the number 9 on the Selecao :(
     
  19. hectorcrib

    hectorcrib Member

    Mar 27, 2007
    In a 6.0
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    if Chile wins the game against Mexico, then Ecuador is out cause I doubt theyll beat Brazil by 3-0 (Ecuador needs at least a 3-0 win), and a tie for Brazil will do just fine cause they'll advance with a best 3rd place spot, knowin the other best 3rd place is already taken by Group A's Uruguay, and USA and Colombia are done for in this tournament because of their no points and -5 and a -7 goal difference from the other Group C teams...Ecuador are in a tough spot right now
     
  20. Bronaldo

    Bronaldo Red Card

    Apr 8, 2007
    Canada
    Diego should get another chance. Baptista was terrible last game and he has no technical ability what so ever. If diego finds his form he can help carry brasil. As it stands i can;t see brasil going far, robinho is good, but can he really beat teams like argentina all by himself?
     
  21. leonidas

    leonidas Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    May 25, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    baptista wasnt terrible in the last game. after he came on, our team actually played well. in addition, baptista is needed in this game because diego and anderson are fragile and won't last against ecuador's physical play.

    this copa america is playing out just like the last one. last copa america was basically adriano and 10 other players. looks to be the same thing this time around. and argentina also had a very hyped team in the last one.
     
  22. Joelzinho

    Joelzinho Member

    May 23, 2005
    Montreal!
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Wow is playing the role of Adriano this time around? I am guessing Robinho....
     
  23. Latin Pride

    Latin Pride Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    In your house
    Club:
    Olimpia Asuncion
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Robinho scoring an injury time in the finals vs Argentina with Brasil eventually winning on penalties?

    I'll take it! :D
     
  24. Latin Pride

    Latin Pride Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    In your house
    Club:
    Olimpia Asuncion
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Dunga must be biting his nails

    We all know if we lose this and get eliminated in the group stages that hes gonna be out the door the next day.
     
  25. COSMOS10

    COSMOS10 Member

    Jun 9, 2007
    Alpharetta, GA
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did you see the chick with the knockers in the crowd? The annoucer was about do his patented "Aye yah yah"
     

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