Do you have to be "brown" to be a Chivas fan?

Discussion in 'Archives: CD Chivas USA' started by Futbolfan77, Jun 17, 2007.

  1. Futbolfan77

    Futbolfan77 New Member

    Mar 26, 2005
    Upland, CA
    OK this may be a touchy subject. but I hear some of you call members of the Riot Squad "racists". But as a Chivas fan who is half Mexican (with white skin), my dad is Mexican and my Grandpa was born and raised in Guadalajara so I've been a Chivas fan for a long time, so when Chivas USA cam into MLS I became a huge Chivas USA supporter (I have a 5 game package). But every time I go to a Chivas game (USA or Guadalajara) I get heckled, stuff thrown at me, called names in Spanish (I understand those words), for being a "white" Chivas fan. My mom is white (forgive me), but my Grandpa raised me to be proud of my Mexican heritage which I am, and I'm proud to support the Chivas (both USA and Gudalajara). So why is it that some idiots have to say I have to be "brown" to be a Chivas fans, it makes me sick. On a side note I drove to the Sports Arena the other day to buy my Chivas vs. Galaxy tickets (my Dad is a a Galaxy fan), Section 10, row 39, I can't wait.
     
  2. jsimm

    jsimm Member

    Jan 23, 2004
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is the reason I can't stand Chivas. I find it interesting that they couldn't win until they relaxed that policy. What would happen if the Galaxy adopted a honkee only policy? Racism is not reserved just for the KKK.
     
  3. jq pepe

    jq pepe New Member

    Jun 3, 2005
    los angeles
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    You know, I've hardly missed a game since the goats started, and I've never withnessed anybody heckling people because they are "white", unless of course they wear Club America jerseys- they are called "putas de cabaret" by the goats loyalists. in games against the herbalitas, the gals are heckled no matter what color they are

    With a strong population of french descent, there are a lot of "white" looking people in Guadalajara, most of them Atlas or Chivas fans, they may be called gueros, but not harassed. I myself have seen a number of white and oriental people enjoying the show without any problem.

    Most likely you did find yourself next to some idiot with one beer too many, ignore and enjoy the show, or if worst come to worst, call the usher and have the fool thrown out of the stadium. they'll do it.
     
  4. Futbolfan77

    Futbolfan77 New Member

    Mar 26, 2005
    Upland, CA
    Most of the time it's someone who is very drunk, what's crazy is when I'm on the streets or at another sporting event wearing a Chivas fan I get offered beer (but I don't drink),only a few people have ever been able to tell that i'm Mexican.
     
  5. Going Mobile

    Going Mobile Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 15, 2004
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    First I call BS on them heckling you because your white. I have missed two Chivas games since day one have never heard of such a thing. Where do you sit at Chivas games?

    The reason LARS gets called racist is because theres some real A-holes over there. Not all, frankly only a few, but those few ruin for the good solid citizens of LARS.

    I am white as they come, as I am typing this I am watch the Nascar race and flipping to the Toronto game to get score updates. I have sat with the Legion and been to a few events and have never had a problem.

    BTW don't forget the game in Glendora next week, I know you live close by
     
  6. Futbolfan77

    Futbolfan77 New Member

    Mar 26, 2005
    Upland, CA
    Yes there are some idiots in the Riot Squad some of them are cool, I know one of them pretty well we always talk smack back and forth. I think the fans that do act like idiots (Galaxy, Chivas, whoever) are those who have had one too many beers.
     
  7. AndSomeAreAngels

    Jun 7, 2003
    Brokelyn
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Heckled for being "white"? I find that hard to believe. I go to every Chivas home game and I am most definitely white, and I've gotten nothing but smiles from Chivas fans.
     
  8. chapulincolorado

    Jul 14, 1999
    McAllen, Texas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Chivas USA has never had "Mexicans-only" policy. If that was the case, Guzan wouldn't have been GK since Day 1.

    I mean...Jayzuz....:

    [​IMG]

    He wouldn't be part of Chivas USA if this BS would be true.
     
  9. Paradox redded

    Paradox redded Red Card

    Jun 12, 2007
    Hmmm well thats odd, most of my cousins still live in cali. And my youngest cousin (hes 16) has gone to EVERY single game. His dad is from idaho and his mom from jalisco, Mex. and looks COMPLETELY white. He NEVER said anything about mexican fans harrasing him because of his skin color. Infact, he tells me mexican and mexican/american dudes give him daps all the time because they think hes a caucasian supporting the chivas. I find this to be bs, I think its another pathetic galaxy bitter sour loser fan whos trying to find something to try to talk shit about chivas. They have been good lately, and all these chivas haters come out the woodworks :D bitching about attendance when their not even chivas fans lol. And their all concerned about it, its like well then be concerned about all mls teams xcept for tfc then, wtf. Just typical jealous haters dont matter if chivas has 1 fan at the game as long as their winning everybody can lick their ass :D.
     
  10. Futbolfan77

    Futbolfan77 New Member

    Mar 26, 2005
    Upland, CA
    I guess strange things happen to me. My seats at the Chivas games I'm in section 105 and every game I've gotten bird crap on me, I'm right under the beam where a bird has made nest, so next time I'm going to move up some rows. But what is cool whenever I wear my Chivas at other events I get offered beer (I don't drink), and lots of compliments. Chiva fans are are by far some of the most passionate fans in the world. Even Chivas USA fans I'll take friends to Chivas USA games and they say even though there are less people there than a Galaxy game, the atmosphere and the passin of the fans are better than a Galaxy game (I know I'm going to get some smack talk from Galaxy fans for that comment). But thank you guys for the support, but I was not lying about those things that have havn't to me at Chiva games, I still love the team, I can't let a few idiot fans bother me, every pro team in the world has idiot fans, I'm also a Dodger and Kings fan, and I'll admit some of those fans are idiots.
     
  11. chapulincolorado

    Jul 14, 1999
    McAllen, Texas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    If you look at the starting line up for the 1st game of Chivas USA game:

    Brad Guzan, G (US, White)
    Orlando Perez, D (US, Hispanic)
    Aaron Lopez, D (Mexico)
    Isaac Romo, D (Mexico)
    Ryan Suarez, D (US, Uruguayan)
    Ezra Hendrickson, D (St. Vincent)
    Francisco Gomez, M (US, Hispanic)
    Francisco Mendoza, M (Mexico)
    Hector Cuadros, M (Mexico)
    Ramon Ramirez, M (Mexico)
    Arturo Torres, M (US, Hispanic)
    Antonio Martinez, M (Mexico)
    Thiago Martins, F (Brazil)
    Matt Taylor, F (US, White)

    That should tell you that the Urban Legend often repeated here that Chivas USA is Mexican-only is just than, UL.
     
  12. Legionario

    Legionario New Member

    Jan 18, 2007
    Kalifas
    Well..... i don't know about you being heckled for being white. That seems weird to me. As this year, we have seen more "white" faces in the crowd. We have even had a surge of "white" people getting into the Legion.

    Are you sure it was aimed at you in a derogatory manner? often Gringo, weto, gabacho, pocho, are used as a humorous playful teasing way. We often use ************, etc etc are BS-ing talk amongst each other.

    Here's a link to a similar topic...

    https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=544251
     
  13. John Kevin W. Desk

    John Kevin W. Desk New Member

    Mar 5, 2007
    That's funny, you've been on the LARS boards for years and you've never ONCE called out anyone for their racism.
     
  14. Blue Celery

    Blue Celery Member

    Apr 13, 2007
    Nice man. I am also a halfer. My pops is full blown Mexican...not orange selling, or ice cream cart rolling mexican, but you know what i mean. My gramps moved over here during the second world war and made camp in L.A. I lived in El Monte until i was almost 8. I was the only "white" kid on my street. My mom is irish/scottish/etc. Basically British. Shes white. There are a lot of us around man!

    And wow, dont say "forgive me" for your mom being white.:( Thats weak. I know youre probably kidding but I am equally proud of both sides of my heritage, so you shouldnt be ashamed just because a few racist Chivas fans get in the way.

    It should be the color of your jersey, rather than your skin, that people judge. Football should bring people together.

    P.S. if there is ever a CD Guad vs. Cruz Azul game up here in L.A.....you'll probably see me there in a blue shirt.:D
     
  15. Going Mobile

    Going Mobile Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 15, 2004
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    whats the point of arguing with anyone over there. The ones that are the a-holes aren't open to adult discussion, they have a mob mentality and will not hear of facts if it gets in the way of their views.
    If you read it agian I didn't say they were racists I said they were a-holes, I am sure even can agree there are more than a couple.
     
  16. John Kevin W. Desk

    John Kevin W. Desk New Member

    Mar 5, 2007
    I did read it again, and I stand by my umbrage. All racists are assholes, but not all assholes are racists. We're assholes in the Denis Leary sense, not the Michael Richards sense. And I'd rather be called an asshole than a racist every day of the week.

    We almost certainly DO have some racists in the group - I think any group larger than the capacity of a Ford Expedition will. But that's a long way from saying "LARS is racist." And if your standard of justifying calling a group racist is because they have assholes in them, then every supporters group in MLS should be listed on SPLC's list.
     
  17. ed88

    ed88 Member

    May 28, 2006
    Mexico city
    I'm white and I'm 100% hispanic.
    There are mexicans who look caucasian:

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  18. Blue Celery

    Blue Celery Member

    Apr 13, 2007
    Si. I concur. I too look like a nephew of this guy.

    Way better looking though.

    Extremely.;)
     
  19. chapulincolorado

    Jul 14, 1999
    McAllen, Texas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    There should be. Shit! We got invaded by the French and the Spaniards. Then the Irish came to our aid against the French. Then Porfirio Diaz invited the English, Italians, and what not to set up shop. If there were no güeros in Mexico, ya seria mucho. :D
     
  20. SENOB

    SENOB New Member

    Dec 13, 2006
    Legion 1908
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    Does it really matter what galaxy fans think or say? I Guess it would if you were part of them.
     
  21. daniel garcia

    daniel garcia New Member

    Jul 5, 2007
    wilmington ca
    im looking for fans like you ,im looking 4 supporter like u to start a new legion .I fell that Chivas usa should have its own identitie and and help fans like u that fell left out
     
  22. glyconerd

    glyconerd Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Uzbekistan
  23. CyberAce100

    CyberAce100 Member+

    Jul 4, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I'm with you man. I mean I was watching Chivas USA's last game in the Home Depot Center, and I didn't even see anybody from La Legion at the game. It was the same day Chivas Guadalajara played a friendly against a Korean team, which makes me assume that the porra (Legion) stayed at home to watch a damn friendly against a Korean team instead of supporting Chivas USA at the Home Depot Center. It shouldn't be like that, even though I'm an Atlas fan (I don't have Chivas), my pops is a huge Chiva fan.
     
  24. CyberAce100

    CyberAce100 Member+

    Jul 4, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Quien es esa vieja que tienes de foto en el avatar???
     

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