This reminded of the Uruguay game. Poor finishing killed us. At least, we came close there at the end, though.
Today's game was unfair... it was 11 vs LCS... Most of Korea's players were underachieving today... but it was an entertaining match nevertheless..
yeah i mean we threatened well. perhaps if we had ldg, ahn or seol up front we would've seen some goals
hahaha you think fulham would be a good fit for lcs? i'm just afraid his finishing skills aren't up to par with other forwards in the epl
The difference between the Dutch and us was finishing. If Korea wants the Asian Cup back, they should finish when they have to.
Yeah, I agree. I think LDG would have been able to put away one. Pim definately needs to work with the strikers a bit more. Credit to LCS, though. If we are going to have a chance in the Asian Cup, LCS needs to be in top form. He was our whole team today.
some technical footwork training would sure help out the KNT... they should start training with that footability dvd i saw the other day on fox soccer channel
LCS is awesome... Korea's left side and defense are shocking.. no JSP, LYP, SKH is really terrible...
Damn, and JJJ is injured. I hope it's not so serious, not when he's attracting (supposedly) interests from several Duthc clubs.
fcking Korean football youth system should be changed. i'm very tired of seeing players who lack of fundamental drills
I didn't think Korea would win Netherlands. This is only friendly match and Korea did learn a lot from Netherlands.
I enjoyed the game. But many of the korean players didn't do their best. LCS koreas best , no doubt. And putting Oh Bum-seok and Woo Sung-yong on proved to be a positive thing.
Forgive me for asking, but is Park Chu-Young still injured and/or out of form? I thought he was going to replace Cho Jae-Jin, but they brought on Kim Sang-Sik instead.
I don't know what folks were expecting, but for me that wasn't too bad. Of course: - Our defenders (incl DM) hack unnecessarily (Kim DJ, Lee Ho) -- I don't think that guy would have scored if Kim DJ didn't pull him down - We don't have a striker that can beat a single defender. LCS can beat someone on the wing, but none of our central guys (JJJ / Woo) can do much other than control the ball with their backs to the goal or knock a header down. I know many of you are counting on LDG to be the savior up-front for the Asian Cup -- I for one, would like to see Ahn JH (yes that guy) included as a shadow striker or at least a 2nd half joker because he can do stuff that others can't (just ask Thierry Henry ) - too much route 1 ball. I saw flashes of give and goes today (LCS/Kim JW, some by Yeom) but overall too predictable - Surprisingly today, we lost a ton of balls on 1:1 tackles in the middle of the field. Maybe the Dutch are just better - I don't know
He did not make the roster. He's on the Olympic (U23) squad so the thought is that if he does really well there he might make the Asian Cup roster. I really hope he gets back his confidence / touch and gets a bit tougher. I still have high hopes for him.
I don't want to blame the players. But this match confirmed my thought once again: "Lee Ho is not eligible for the national team".
Exactly, Lee Ho and Kim Dong Jin need to be replaced ASAP. I don't know what they do in Russia, but it's not working for out the KNT
apparently there some officials from the Dutch clubs at the stadium and are scheduled to have a one2one meeting with JJJ after the game. as for the game itself, i saw it on the internet and suffered a bit of buffering and low quality picture. i guess im gonna have to download it and watch it again. there were some horrendous mistakes in defence and midfield.......i mean most of the counter attacks from the Dutch originated from bad passes and being intercepted in midfield, even in our own half where the players should be more comfortable on the ball. the commentators kept stressing the need for short accurate passing to create one good chance. Quality over quantity. But what we showed today was decent quantity of attacking play but hardly any of it was of any quality. the players just seemed too rushed and not confident on keeping the ball, which means they bring on unnecessary pressure on themselves and make bad passes or simply lose the ball. The attacking play seemed initially fast paced and aggressive. But it turned out to be a one pony trick with no finishing. The Dutch was under pressure from time to time but cos the attack route was so predictable the Dutch got used to it. Korea seemed to favour going thru the middle, but when you dont have the skills of Kaka and Rohandiniho you cant get thru a jammed packed middle, and the Dutch threw in bodies in the middle. Saw England v. Brazil yesterday, and Brazil had lot of tricks thru the crowded middle, was great to watch but in the end cos England had so many bodies in there Brazil didnt crack them. Not much of a wing play from us. Nothing to keep the Dutch guessing. Our attacking play should be varied. Keep them guessing. Punting the ball up to JJJ? he got one good contact today the same play in which he got injured when he struck the ball later. Long balls to the wings? Too many. On the other hand, overlapping play from the wings? None. and no runs down the wings, to put in a cross in to oncoming forwards to the box. we needed variety. If we dont have strikers with finishing power, at least lets try to vary it. is this something a good manager can change? yes. and he should have done. if we attempted and failed then we cant blame the manager. but if the players never thought to try, then its the managers fault.
Decent game. Many of the players, especially the Dutch side, were looking tired at the end though. I feel sorry for Choi SG, he was like let me at it as soon as he got on the field, but he didn't even touch the ball for like 10 minutes. His first touch, he had to kick it away to Woo Sungyong and the second time the referee thought he was pulling an Ono. No one was passing to his side. Lee CS saw this and decided to be a nice guy by switching sides with him, but for some reason the ball did not go to Choi again. Woo SY and Kim Doheon goes ninja. I guess Woo SY ninja was a decent tradeoff since Cho JJ wasn't sucking nearly as much as his usual, but why am I not surprised that Kim DH was a ninja? Not going to say how effective he would be under a different formation, but this formation just doesn't suit many of the team's players. If Verbeek's going to keep using him for the last 10-20 minutes of the game, he mine as well not pick him. You thought Kim Sangsik-Kim Dongjin was bad? Try Kang Minsoo (I still don't know who this guy is) and Kim Jinkyu. Everytime you see an opposing player within 35 metre radius, just kicks it out. It was really frustrating to watch especially at the beginning. But they play under Huh Jungmoo so what the heck are you going to do. Playing Kim Jungwoo at the attacking midfielder position was a high risk-high reward scenario, I am not exactly sure if it actually paid off tonight but I liked it. I liked it because we now know Pim Verbeek is willing to gamble and is willing to make changes. I want him to learn that it's still not too late to make changes to the game tactics. Hopefully he cuts the long ball crap. Cho JJ's injured. Honestly, as good of a kid I am, I can't help but feel relieved. At current pace, nothing else was going to stop Verbeek from including this guy. With this guy out and Woo SY throwing in a rather poor performance tonight, this might even encourage Verbeek to change the FORMATION!! HORRAY!! 4 CDM thing (was it three?) sort of worked. I wish the guys stopped being so hestitant going up and contributing on attacks though. Both Son Daeho and Lee Ho was around the defensive line all game almost helping out on defense too much. Was Kim Jinkyu missing his 마법의구두? He looked really really short today. He was well-shorter than Kuyt, maybe he was wearing different clits and lost some inches?
what ive noticed recently is that Korea dont play counter attack football as much as we used to. Infact we dont play it at all. In the past we would absorb attacks, then go on the break and score a goal of two. Korea 2-3 Brazil (friendly 2002.11.20) is a game that pops into mind. even in the Korea 3-1 Germany game (friendly 2004.12.19), we mixed it up. Thru the middle, down the wings, attacking pressure as well as counter attacks. now the ethos seems to be 맞불작전. now this is somthing Hiddink instilled, but even when we were fighting fire with fire (ie offence is best form of defence) we still did a lot of counter attacks. But looking at todays game we simply could not counter, firstly because non of the players had the vision or skill to feed the ball quickly out wide (some of them even fcked it up and booted it back straight to the Dutch, or did some poor ass short pass, or lost possession) and secondly none of the forwards were moving up creating space. so this fighting fire with fire. yes sometimes it works, if we rattle teams and capitalise on it quickly, but once the opposition gets settled, we need to emply 'defend then counter' strategies, not constantly and immediately booting the ball up. have we come too confident in our own abilities and past successes? The general accepted consensus is that Korea is one of the best teams in Asia, with the best track record against top European and S.American teams. Some say this is down to the fact we step it up to match the oppositions levels (ie play well against better teams and not so well againsts teams we should dominate and blast away to the stratosphere). - *Side note: i would argue that the teams who we should beat are in turn stepping it up a gear when they play us, they defend hard and counter (and sometimes grass roll). so have we become too enamoured in the fighting fire with fire play? and our vanity has led to us forgetting our true strengths?