Question is in thread title. I keep hearing here how the league is more important to the fans, a stance I never ever heard of while speaking with people not on the internet. So I want to ask the whole forum for an answer.
I know all Liverpool fans would disagree, because the fact is they all try for one major competition and still can't win it. I personally say the Premiership, because you play more games and become more determined to win it. As for the Champions League, you play a group stage with Champions, Runners Up of different leagues, leagues that aren't as competitive as the Premiership. The Premiership requires week in, week out games all competing for a trophy that easily shows your the best team in your country, if not Europe due to the amount of teams that mount seroius title contention. More so competitve than La Liga or Serie A, so i personally think the Domestic Cup, although undeniably the Champions League, would be nice to win....
I voted for champs league, but to be fair, even before man united got eliminated a lot of their fans were saying they would much rather win the league. I bet juve fans would say the same thing. maybe it has something to do with what your team has been successful at?
Actually, with Juve you picked the wrong example... we have too many scudetti, and too few CLs, we lost the last 3 finals (!!!) and we want european revenge bad. We didn't even really celebrate the last batch of scudetti (I would say from 1998 on before the scandal), repetition brings boredom FAST. Instead our frustration has got bigger because we saw Milan winning other 2 CLs in the meantime. I won't ever forget the Juve-Borussia final, we were huge favorites, biggest delusion ever for me. I'm sure Inter fans wanted the scudetto the most this year, but next season they'll be after the CL badly. They didn't say a word after Milan victory. Gattuso's sign says it all
Granted that with 10 votes there is a pitiful sample size but I find it interesting that those voting for Europe support clubs that are either guaranteed to win the league (Lyon) or clubs that had no chance of winning the league (Milan, Juventus).
This poll is not tied with what happened this year. I'm not a Milan nor a Liverpool fan. When you vote think about what you want to win next year, or a hypotethical future year.
Definetly the league, being the best over 38 games is the measure of a truly fantastic team. Any kind of chumps can win the Cl, just look at Liverpool, Porto in recent years.
Yet how many of those 38 games are meaningful? What's the percentual of meaningful games in a league compared to meaningful CL games?
Every single one is meaningful, you get the same number of points for each game. You get 3 pts for beating Siena just like you get 3 pts for beating Milan. I also think that the Champions League should be revamped, only teams that actually are champions deserve to play in it.
Sorry if I keep my stance, the points awarded are sure the same, but Siena-Milan and Manchester-Watford are in NO WAY meaningful games. If Manchester had won the CL this year you would have belittled the trophy, since you weren't the champions of England?
At the end of the day, you have to turn up week in, week out to win the league. With the European cup, even though the average level of quality is higher, you only have to turn up to about a dozen games. And I'd say that Man United vs Watford is more meaningful than Chelsea vs Levski Sofia. The standard of opposition is the same, but the points from the Watford game will count for something at the end of the season, whilst the group stages count for nothing once the knockout stage commences, and most top teams just coast through them, even playing reserves in the 5th and 6th games.
If Man Utd won the league by two points and one of their games was a win over Watford then it was a meaningful game. The whole point of the league is that every game contributes unless you win the title with plenty of games to spare.
most english fans would say EPL..go figure... And I think teams usaully don't play for CL until they have NO shot at the league title...im pretty sure liverpool tries the EPL title...but once they get far behind in points they gun at that CL title. I see why most of the english clubs suck in the champions league(excluding liverpool)....you only care about the EPL...anyways if your a good team you should be able to win both, and care about both. If the EPL season ended later(kind of like la liga) you think EPL teams qould do better? Because the CL is finished 3 weeks before the end of the domestic season?
It depends the level of competivines. Ronaldo said before that La Liga is the hardest league to winn by far, so If I had to decide Liga Vs CL I stick with La Liga, because you can get beat by any team any day. The Epl has only 4 big teams, and Italy has the same ammount so its eassier for them to beat their League. The CL, is harder than the world cup! Normally the most consistent teams win the CL but it has nothing to do with strenght, because is a totatlly different tourney and you need some luck.
I'd say 10-15 years ago domestic was more important; but there's so much money involved in Champions League these days its impossible to claim that CL is inferior to anything.
Do you have trouble reading English...is it a second language to you? Nobody...and I mean nobody....is stating that they would prefer to win "the EPL". What people are saying is that, in their opinion, a domestic title trumps the cup competition. Obviously though, there are exceptions, as nobody would say winning the Scottish league compares. Supporters from leagues that are hard to win believe it is superior - how you quite managed to turn that around to an anti-English rant is baffling. Unless, you have trouble understanding English.
If Spain had a history of multiple title winners, you would have a valid point. However, they don't - so neither do you!
Depends. 1. If you are consistently winning your league each year and the opposition isn't close at all then you care more about the CL. 2. If you haven't won your league in a few years and yearn to win it back then you'll concentrate on that. Chelsea and United (minus Abrahamovich) will battle incredibly fiercely for the Premiership and this was also the case with United and Arsenal. It is a consistent thing with the very biggest English clubs. Every match, even with Watford, is important as the other team have also played this team and have most likely won and if you lose to Watford then you may be out of the running. I can't speak for other countries but here the Premiership is the cake and the CL is the icing. Obviously winning the CL is better than not winning anything but the league is more important.
If you win your domestic league and also win the CL, then that's a greater achievement. If you win the CL once without having made a home dominance, then it's a day to celebrate, but you didn't really proved it. That's like asking: do you prefer your team promoting from third to second division or your team beating a first division in the national cup?
It's the league. No doubt about it. As far as I'm concerned, a team that wins the CL without winning the domestic title that same season has no business calling itself "Champions of Europe." The CL does not show who is the best team. It shows who is most capable of getting up for a couple of big games with big breaks between them.
Well apparantly ur wrong and actually u make the point even more understandable. U couldnt possibly go by the past. And If u did I would have to take into accout that Villarreal, Sevilla, Espanyol, Deportivo, and others have been shining in europe while other midtable clubs have failed to do anything that big: English clubs. La Liga is much more competitive and with he amount of money most english clubs have is unaceptable to see liga teams be better and have better quality! right?