So either this means RBNY only has ~2400 season ticket holders or they did not count the free tickets distributed in the attendance. At least the reporting is becoming more consistent. This is the largest 9300 crowd I have ever seen. In years past this would have been listed as 13-14k I think. I also thought the supporters section behind the goal looked great. This is no where near as bad as the trolls are making it out to be.
I don't know why people (who are not from ny or fan of RB) are so up in arms about RB's poor attendance record. This is a free market. If owners didn't think having their franchise in NY would be profitable in the long run then they wouldn't be there. Nobody wants to lose money and that includes rich folks. If people from other cities want their own franchise, MLS has plenty of room for new teams. Plus, it's bad for MLS if it has to move a team from one the biggest cities in usa and in the world.
I'm surprised after that San Diego Union tribune article people put so much stock in those numbers from years before. I think if everyone honestly reported numbers most games would be in the 8-12k range. RBNY from the games I have seen on TV look to be reporting real numbers. I think that's a good thing.
I don't know if its entirely accurate but I think we have all seen enough games from every where in the league that the in stadium attendance is certainly closer to the reported attendance than in any other season I can remember. Of course this means one of two things 1) MLS is fudging less oe 2) More people with tickets are showing up I believe its a mixture of the two.
I would say so. If I remember correctly the average in stadium attendance according to the article was like 10k and change. I think some teams are reporting more accurately but you still see other games where the place is a ghosttown and they will then give some number like 13k and there is no way. I really wish everyone would give real numbers so then you could actually have a real idea of every teams situation. P.S. I know every sport does this tickets distributed practice.
Re: Attendance: 9,357. Again at RB. And people are worrying about potential attendance at Quakes games.
Re: Attendance: 9,357. Again at RB. seriously? what does it matter of RBNY has crappy attendance? as long as they aren't going bankrupt, I don't care... with the team they have now, fans will start showing up eventually
Re: Attendance: 9,357. Again at RB. You softened your original screaming about 20 million with an edit, but the above still looks bad when you have a signature that reads:
Agreed. Now if a team is consistently doing 7,000 to 8,000 paid over the course of a season, that's some cause for concern, but people need to keep in mind that the MetroStars were drawing an average paid attendance of 9,956 in 2005 -- and that put them right in the middle of the league.
Re: Attendance: 9,357. Again at RB. The other side of the story.... The ESC is as big as I have ever seen it in my 5 years of going to matches. After the match, 100's of people lined the corridors for inpromtu mosh pits, drums chants. The place was alive. I have seen this in DC but never in New York. Everyone taking pictures and videos. People jumping on as the parade moved through. Good stuff. It took me a half our to get out to my car. When you walk around the stadium you see many more fans wearing Jerseys than I have seen before. The ratio of real fan to kiddie was lower that I have seen, I am the last guy to make excuses, but I actually see some good going on here in NY. Sure 9,357 sucks, but personally I'd rather start here and keep building on that number with real fans instead of just manufacturing them like the lion share of MLS does. Its just a start, but Red Bull just might be on to something....
Re: Attendance: 9,357. Again at RB. It's pointless to worry too much about this. RBNY is not going away, but attendance won't suddenly get better either. It's all pretty meaningless until the new stadium opens.
Re: Attendance: 9,357. Again at RB. I am glad you see the glass half full or half empty [like the Giant Stadium] or what ever you say it. I have to say this, those red empty seats looks good on HD.You can see the number on the seat with HD camera.
Re: Attendance: 9,357. Again at RB. All depends what you want. Would it have made you feel better if they marketed METRO style to a bunch of youth teams and got 14 grand and change instead?? Would that really make the situation more rosy? No. At the end of the day that would have done nothing to build an actual fan base. This fan base has dwindled down to bare bones at this point. Give it some time to rebound. Give people a chance to notice. Baby steps man. Believe me, no one likes to critisize more than me when it deserved. It's only one persons opinion ofcourse, but I have some seen some signs tonight that I am pleased with. Check out some of the videos that will surely surface from tonight match. you might have a different opinion after seeing them.
I have had my doubts about NY. Although their attendance is not good at least RedBull is not lying about it. There are some good things happening in NY and I do believe the worst for this franchise is behind them. The ship will not turn around overnight. You are starting to see signs things are changing and it starts with the diehards. Best of luck NY.
I was at the game tonight and the fans were great. I thought we had more than the announced attendance but the place was alive. And for the trolls that are jealous about the success of the organization is having than ya better get use to it. This is the beginning of better days to come. The best stadium in North America,Best New training facility in MLS, Best youth system all in the works. Plus this team has not marketed the team this year so far. All the idiots here just get use to seeing RedBull in First Place. Everyone look up to the leaders.
Re: Attendance: 9,357. Again at RB. Agreed. I really don't think it's any issue at all as to what RBNY's attendance is. They have a new stadium on the way and a deep pocketed owner. Drawing 15K fans versus 8K isn't going to change the long term outlook for RBNY much, so what's the difference? Sure, it would be great if they could be drawing more fans, but it's not something to actually be worried about. Let the team keep doing what they are doing. Fans will come. Maybe it won't be the rebirth of Cosmos, but there's always a lag between success and attendance.
AMEN! The figures this year are legitimate which makes it seem worse than it truly is. To clarify the "freee tickets" thing, season ticket holders could get four (4) free tickets for each seasoon ticket they hold but you had to call in or email in the names of the people by a certain point. I have no iidea how many of these tickets were actualy given out. Additionally, NY, perhaps more than most areas, is a horrrible place for a Thursday night game. Anyone coming from work or home in the City has to battle rush hour traffic and either a bridge or a tunnell. I left my office in Westchester earlier than usual by about 45 minutes and still only got to the stadium about five minutes before the start. As Crusio pointed out the crowd is a true soccer fan crowd which is not what Metro used to draw in the past. During the ESC march out we were appluded rather than avoided as would be the case years ago when we seemed to be viewed as scarey by the soccer mom crowd. Baby steps. we are taking baby steps. And it is progress not perfection.
See, that's the thing. The Wizards' attendance this year does worry me because there still isn't a firm SSS plan (is there?) and I'm not sure there's sufficient popular support to make it go forward. I hope I'm wrong (and I honestly haven't followed the KC situation all that much) but I think they, unlike RBNY, are at risk for being moved. The abyssmal TV ratings (referred to in a thread on N&A) doesn't paint a rosey picture either. He also doesn't help that KC doesn't have a clear place to play in 2009, if I'm not mistaken (Arrowhead will be unavailable due to renovations). I'm not saying that KC is necessarily a problem, but I think the situation there is more concerning than for RBNY.
I think SSS plans are farther along than most of us think. I'm the wrong person to speak on it, but I do believe they have found a spot. The problem with the TV ratings is that it's on metrosports, which less than 1/2 of KC has. Fox midwest always has Royals/Cardinals. Sam Pierron talked about that in the aforementioned thread: 2009 is a long way off. They'll work something out much better than Southlake and probably better than Naperville. And Rutgers, too.
Wow, now thats gotta be one of, if not THE most homerific posts Ive seen in my 4 years posting here. Dont mean to rain on your little one man parade, but perhaps you should just concentrate on going to matches for now, and getting all your buddies and thier friends to go with you to at least my NYRB look slightly more respectable. You should also get back to us when NYRB / Metrostars have actually one a Championship.
I am so happy for the success that New York has provided on the field. I love how Angel has been able to adapt to MLS and now it seems that he will become a scoring machine in the league, the same applies to Jozy Altidore which I have become a big fan of, I cant wait for the day that I will be able to see him play alongside Landon Donovan, Beasley and Dempsey in the National team, this guy is the real deal and the future of American Soccer. Aside from that, in regards to attendance, its really sad that fans are not showing up to support this team with great chemistry. When New York and Kansas City suffer in attendance so do we (MLS). We are forgetting that this league is a single entity., I really dont have an answer or solution and what can be done to increase attendance, other than to sign two big players like Ronaldhino, Cristiano Ronaldo, Messi, Totti or Thierry Henry. I dont blam New Yorkers for not attending, this organization has not provided any type of excitement for the past 10 years and New Yorkers have just gave up on this team. This is going to be a very complicated scenario, New Yorkers loved their "Cosmos" and many still show allot of love for that team, How can NYRB even come close replacing the Cosmos?
Why are you going after the core fan base who does go to matches? Is it because you don't have anything else to try to rub in their faces? Do you realize how much posts like the above make you look like a bitch?