Sports Curmudgeon now covering MLS?

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by spectre, May 23, 2007.

  1. spectre

    spectre New Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There is a blog run by a guy who has been a front office sports guy for thirty some years (mainly NBA I think) and is now retired that I regularly read called "The Sports Curmudgeon". Yesterday (May 22nd) he wrote a piece about MLS that I found somewhat hopefull, as it comes from a guy who doesn't normally cover MLS. While some bits and pieces of the story may not be entirely accurate, he doesn't bash the league and in the end comes out with a vote of confidence that I must say, led me not just to post the link here, but write him a quick note thanking him.

    For your perusal...

    http://www.sportscurmudgeon.com/
     
  2. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    NPR sometimesx runs a clip with the Sports Curmudgeon in their morning show...aka Frank DeFord. Is he the man who pens this blog? If so - he's no soccer fan.
     
  3. dcufan1984

    dcufan1984 Member

    Feb 17, 2002
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    frank deford is oooooooooold school. its good to see him give the league a fair shake.
     
  4. paladius

    paladius Member

    Sep 27, 2003
    Frisco, Texas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Holy S*^T! If Deford is giving MLS its due, then we really have turned a corner. DeFord hates soccer (or at least he used to).

    Next up...

    Rhome is burning!

    Bueller? Bueller? Anyone?
     
  5. da_patriots

    da_patriots New Member

    Mar 3, 2007
    Loudoun County
    very refreshing.
     
  6. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    ... flying pigs and the apocalypse.
     
  7. Via_Chicago

    Via_Chicago Member

    Apr 1, 2004
    Bay Area, California
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seriously, if Frank DeFord wrote this column, the world is going to end. No joke.
     
  8. BulaJacket

    BulaJacket Member

    Columbus Crew (hometown), Minnesota United (close ties), Colorado Rapids (now home), Jacksonville Armada (ties)
    United States
    May 9, 2003
    Ashtabula, OH / Denver, CO / MN / Jax
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://sportscurmudgeon.com/blog/2007/05/22/major-league-soccer-is-growing-up/

    https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=540872
     
  9. GIO17

    GIO17 Member

    Nov 29, 1998
    I believe Hell has just froze.
     
  10. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For your halftime entertainment, Nancy Kerrigan and Lucifer himself will be skating in the pairs competition, attempting the always difficult triple sow-cow and a double toe yutz...
     
  11. maturin

    maturin Member

    Jun 8, 2004
    Can we get the threads on this (which is the same as the "bait and switch" article above) merged?
     
  12. spectre

    spectre New Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, noticed that too. Of particular note is that the title of the article in the two links changes. On his own website, it's titled a pleasing "MLS is growing up", but on the group website, it's the more controversial "bait-and-switch" title. I don't know if that was the author's idea to change the wording or the secondary website's.
     
  13. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Actually, Frank DeFord is a soccer fan. He just doesn't think it will succeed as a major sport in the United States.

    I would think that you could distinguish the difference.
     
  14. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    tell me, were you born an arrogant know-it-all or did you have to work to achieve this level?
     
  15. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    What about my reply prompted that? :confused:
     
  16. texgator

    texgator New Member

    Oct 28, 2003
    Plano
    Andy is right, appoo.....DeFord knows the game, he just doesn't have much respect for the US pro game. I don't think anyone has filed more soccer themed stories than DeFord on HBO's Real Sports.
     
  17. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    he's also talked about it a few on NPR. I think he HAS to talk about soccer because his job description for SI, HBO, and this curudgeon thing is as a sports generalist. He has to know about soccer because it's beginning to become a mainstream sport - but IMO he's not a fan of the sport in general. At least that's not the idea I got when he was talking about the World Cup.
     
  18. texgator

    texgator New Member

    Oct 28, 2003
    Plano
    Has to? There are a TON of sports journalists whom have NEVER opined on the topic at all. No one is forcing him to file soccer related stories.
     
  19. wcharriscpa

    wcharriscpa Member

    Arsenal FC
    Dec 26, 2000
    Austin
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed. Although he's also very good at ripping those who look down their noses at "stupid americans" who just don't get "the beautiful game."

    His "reverse soccer snob" schtick kills....just kills.
     
  20. Tom Dunmore

    Tom Dunmore BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 11, 2005
    Indianapolis
    Judging from his reaction to some perfectly reasonable criticism about his comments on Beckham on that post, he's not exactly the most reasonable chap, and his commitment to writing about MLS and soccer seems wafer-thin at best...
     
  21. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Reading through the blog, I'm guessing that this Sports Curmudgeon is not Frank DeFord.
     
  22. gherter

    gherter Member

    Sep 16, 2002
    Leesburg, Virginia
    I have never heard anything from him to indicate that FDF is anything close to a soccer fan. He seems to simply trot out the standard, "hey, why we they keep bothering to play soccer here in America when we Americans dislike it so much?" schtick. I assume that he follows whatever is being promoted by ESPN regardless of what it is. Now that ESPN is telling Joe Six-Pack that soccer is cool, Frank has to suck it up and go along. Fortunately for him, he can probably still get a few years out of the "maybe soccer here can operate in the black, but it will never be as big as (nfl or whatever)". This guy is a complete load, and I will appreciate it when he is off the scene.
     
  23. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    He waxes poetic about it from time to time. I can't recall how many times he's recalled watching Morocco play in the 94 or 98 (I forget) World Cup from some bar in Morocco. He's mentioned how he enjoys the World Cup. But he never passes up the chance to say that Americans will never accept the game as a professional spectator sport.
     
  24. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But Andy, if they don't talk about it all the time and don't kiss our ass, don't you know that any positive mention is only made to fulfill a contractual requirement and they are really part of a secret Journalists to Kill Soccer union?

    How can you think that it's humanly possible for people to be anything except hardcore fans or soccer haters. There's no earthly way a person could have a passing appreciation for the sport.
     
  25. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    How do you explain Jeff Bradley then?
     

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