argentine league vs Mls

Discussion in 'MLS: General' started by Serge, Apr 11, 2007.

  1. Wile Coyote

    Wile Coyote Red Card

    Sep 21, 2000
    Punta del Este, Uru.
    Club:
    Club Nacional de Football
    BY far the argentine league is WAY BETTER. level of play the fans in the stands TV production the players the culture its a crime to even compare the 2 leagues...


    keep thinking its only about Boca and River because it is not....

    Independiente racing on their worst days is a killer game, san lorenzo velez, NOB Rosario these are solid historic teams... the level is superior...


    I hate these MLS vs (some league ) posts...

    let mls come to its own...you cant compare 100 years to 11...

    and you know what it comes down to this... head to head face to face.. want to show how good you are then take part in Copa Libertadores take part in sudamericana.

    and want to show me you are better than mexico start winning Concacaf... in 11 years MLS has had only 2 champions....

    I think MLS is heading in the right direction SSS is very important.. MLS has alot to deal with an anti soccer media, NFL stadiums and so much other stuff... but it is getting there... the level is better and it will get better as time ggoes along... But you cant compare the 2 leagues where every day in argentina people from amature to the profesionals breath love eat sleep futbol every day......

    International Official Cups say who is better than who on that particular day, not friendly games, not super liga cup...
     
  2. KLECKO73

    KLECKO73 New Member

    Jan 5, 2002
    GARDEN STATE
    This is embarrasing. I watch both leagues and Argentina's is so better that it's not funny. There can be no arguement that their best is better than our best. The pace, skill, passion and media pressure are way ahead of MLS. And just remember. Our beloved league MVP was an after thought there, but here he is the best player. And are we forgetting how many top players their league sends to europe as compared to MLS?
     
  3. JuanIg

    JuanIg New Member

    Apr 16, 2006
    Dallas
    First, you obviously know very little of you're lumping NOB in there.

    Second, you might want to double check how many of those teams cut the regining MLS MVP.
     
  4. Bayer04fan

    Bayer04fan New Member

    Aug 14, 2004
    Los Angeles, CA,USA
    Whose better?
    MLS or Argentine League?
    LMAO
    Is this 4 real?

    It is Argentina hands down. I am not a huge fan of Boca or River, I like independiente myself but any team in the argentine league can beat the best MLS team any day. They have the talent to whip are assess. We can't even bet MEXICAN teams for crying out oud so how do you propose we can beat an Argentine club side?
     
  5. Sakuragi

    Sakuragi Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Exactly. It would be a chaos in South America.

    Mexican teams have a positive record against Argentine teams, meaning Mexican teams are better. So, it's no surprise MLS teams can't beat Mexican teams, but I'm pretty sure they'd be able to defeat Argentine teams every time! The Argie league is a farm league! Their best do not stay home. Right now it's a little vague on who has the better league, but in a couple more years, everyone will look back at this thread and laugh because the MLS would have surpassed the Argie league senseless!
     
  6. RedBulls

    RedBulls New Member

    Feb 19, 2007

    Note: Mexican sides are better these days than those from Argie land:

    Libertadores:

    3-7-07 America 4, Banfield 0 @ azteca
    3-21-07 Banfield 3, America 1 @ banfield

    America takes them 5-3

    3-14-07 Toluca 2, Boca 0 @ toluca
    3-22-07 Boca 3, Toluca 0 @ Boca

    Boca (the grandaddy of the argie league) barely squeaks by a traditional mid level mexican side 3-2!
     
  7. MtMike

    MtMike Member+

    Nov 18, 1999
    the 417
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As a fan of the aforementioned KC wizards, and therefore as someone who is very cognizant of the gaping hole in the attacking midfield position on our team, I'm pretty sure we could find a place for Riquelme on our roster.

    Of course, I realize you're being sarcastic.
     
  8. Valdo_8

    Valdo_8 New Member

    Jul 10, 2004
    Orlando
    Wow. I can't believe anyone is even trying to compare the two leagues. The Argentinian league has enough talent to make a 20 team 1st division. Imagine MLS with 20 teams, many teams would just plain suck. Our league would be so watered down if we tried that. Imagine spreading the few talented players we have here over 20 teams, we would really have problems.
    Have you ever watched the Argentinian highlights show on FSC? The technical ability of their players are class. The only reason that league does not get attention is because 1) it is Souh America, and 2) They don't have that large amount of money EPL, LA Liga, Serie A etc has.
    But we can't compare the two. Argentina has been playing soccer for damn near a century, why would you even bother.
    Look up the amount of world class players that come from Argentina, then try and find one world class player that the we have produced.
    You can't be serious.
     
  9. el chingon

    el chingon Member

    Dec 31, 2005
    Chicago
    Club:
    Club América
    Mexican teams are right up there with Argentinian teams. Head to head we've got more wins then they do against us.
     
  10. Mr.Bill

    Mr.Bill Member

    Nov 29, 2006
    Fargo
    Quite true. The MFL is probably the best league in the western hemisphere top to bottom today. I like watching the Argie league on FSC because they play sort of reckless for the offensive push, but I'm not sold that the mid-table Argie teams are world beaters. The league in general lacks discipline in the form.

    Now some of the Brazilian clubs get crazy talent every now and then.

    South America is so damn corrupt though, with the exception of the Rivers and Bocas teams are extremely unstable in more ways than one.
     
  11. ERIVAS

    ERIVAS New Member

    Jan 24, 2007
    Are you kidding me. I would love to se the MLS on the top leagues of the world, but come on MLS fans this type of polls make you look stupid. Argentina's legue is way too far to be compared to MLS. There's no doubt that MLS is getting better but to say that you can compared to de Argentina's league is just insane. MLS give a goog show against the mexican teams on the CONCACAF tounamets but still the Mexican teams look very good against the MLS teams. I can not imagina the final score betweena Boca or River VS Dynamo or UC United. Come on people lets take step by step and don't try to run when you canno even walk rightat this moment.:cool:


    Viva Cruz Azul!!!!
     
  12. CL_2004

    CL_2004 New Member

    Sep 10, 2004
    Toronto
    MLS has more potential in the future.

    Right now Argentina's top 2 teams are better than MLS top 2 teams but were talking about the whole league in this thread. Not who's #1 can beat the other.
     
  13. mauro_

    mauro_ New Member

    Oct 31, 2005
    Bs As, Argentina
    i'm from argentina and i will only tell you this: here if a manager loses more than 5 games it's pretty much over for him. how many games do managers last there? :p
    cya
     
  14. CL_2004

    CL_2004 New Member

    Sep 10, 2004
    Toronto
    how is that even relevant to the question of which league is better?
     
  15. ruud van semz

    ruud van semz Red Card

    Dec 27, 2005
    Melbourne, Australia
    this thread should go to WR, so other people can give insight
     
  16. KesOne

    KesOne BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 11, 2005
    Nueva Jersey
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Serge is a troll, yellow him.
     
  17. ruud van semz

    ruud van semz Red Card

    Dec 27, 2005
    Melbourne, Australia
    This thread has huge potential in World Rivalries.

    Mods, do the right thing by the forumites.
     
  18. glyconerd

    glyconerd Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Uzbekistan
    Right. Even if the Argentine league is better, who cares, it's not like Americans can follow it, or support it with their dollars. MLS is our league, all we can do is support them! :D
     
  19. RedBulls

    RedBulls New Member

    Feb 19, 2007

    Exactly, finely we get an UNEMOTIONAL well reasoned point!
     
  20. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Wow.. America lost by Goleada (their goal vs. Banfield was offsides), yet you are proud of that? America is one of the biggest clubs in Mexico, and Banfield is currently one of the worst in the Argentine league. What is there to be proud of? As for Boca-Toluca, the Mexicans lost 3-2 in the global score, and if Boca played with starters, it would have been more. In the game in Mexico, neither Riquelme, Palacio, nor Palermo played. I enjoyed the Toluca win, and would have enjoyed even more goals. But that doesn't take away the fact that Boca's key players were missing.

    Either way, a few matches can't compare the level of leagues accurately. As for the thread topic, all I can say is.... wooow. :rolleyes:
     
  21. megamac20817

    megamac20817 Member+

    Jul 9, 2005
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    First of all, you'll notice that both Mexican wins were at home, where traditionally they have the advantage because of the height and the pollution (This is accentuated for Argentine teams like Banfield and Boca, since they both come Buenos Aires, a coastal city). Second, you'll see that Banfiled, who are languishing in 16th in Argentina, managed to beat America (one of the TOP teams in Mexico), quite resoundingly. And Boca also summarily crushed Toluca at home, despite Toluca being one of the more solid teams in Mexico right now (Tradition doesn't mean sh!t when comparing teams in today's competitions).

    But this is about comparing la Primera and MLS. If there was an lol smiley, this is where I'd put it.

    EDIT: Loco beat me to it :D
     
  22. mnthunder

    mnthunder Member

    Jun 6, 2002
    Guatemala
    What is the definition of an Argentine?

    An Italian that speaks Spanish and thinks he's English.

    MLS is better at paying their players on time than the Argie Primera and that will do a lot to attract the best players in our hemisphere which will make the league better.
     
  23. el chingon

    el chingon Member

    Dec 31, 2005
    Chicago
    Club:
    Club América
    Toluca is not solid right now, they're in 15th place out of 18. Both leagues are about the same level. Argentenian league might still be better but not by much.
     
  24. Juan Luis Guerra

    Juan Luis Guerra Red Card

    Jun 11, 2001
    New York City

    I just resist to believe that u r comparing these two leagues. I just cant believe you can make such mistake. You have some nerve man, the Argentine league is better by farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
     
  25. megamac20817

    megamac20817 Member+

    Jul 9, 2005
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Economic level does not define how good a league is. Using that as a factor means you have nothing good to actually fall back on. And of course you're going to attract the best players, that's why Beckham and Barros Schelotto are going there to retire :D

    Ponzio, Rosales, Riquelme, none of these players would dream of going to the USA before going back to Argentina. No argument.
     

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