4 goals in 8 games!!! Pathetic

Discussion in 'France' started by Gotham PSG, Apr 14, 2007.

  1. Gotham PSG

    Gotham PSG New Member

    Jul 30, 2006
    This is just pathetic.
    we had 8 games today, and there were just 4 goals! 4 goals!
    Only two games ended 2-0, otherwise everything else was NUL NUL et NUL!

    Bordeaux and Paris who gave each other the tie, too afraid to score a goal to each other, and who knows what happened in the other games.

    I just can't believe it
     
  2. Douai

    Douai New Member

    Jun 16, 2006
    États-Unis
    Damn.Sounds worse than the defensive style of play in Serie A.
     
  3. lefutur

    lefutur Member+

    Sep 2, 2004
    Brooklyn, NY US
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    the fans need to start booing the results of these nil-nil draws. and holding up big signs that say NUL!.
     
  4. Allez Lyonnais

    Allez Lyonnais New Member

    Jul 26, 2005
    TX
    This is ridiculous. Six nil-nil draws in eight games, it's just unbelievable.
     
  5. Inara

    Inara Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 17, 2006
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    I'm surprised the goals per game ratio is 2.13/game - that seems kind of high now.
     
  6. N. Platini

    N. Platini Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    Londres
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    One word : Pathetic . :rolleyes:
     
  7. Lensois

    Lensois Member

    May 19, 2004
    Guess that bonus system for scoring isn't working so well.
     
  8. Gotham PSG

    Gotham PSG New Member

    Jul 30, 2006
    ^^nope, because in the end people start to think that it's best not to lose than not to win.
    I don't know what is the problem, there were more goals at the start of the season, but that was because the refs were giving penalties on every player Yepes was touching, and now that he's injured, they stopped their so called clean up.

    Another good idea is not to give any points to scoreless games. You might have the problem of teams allowing each other to score a goal, arranging games so that at least it ends 1-1 and they both get the point, but both teams will be afraid the other won't return the favor, prisoner's dilemna

    Because in the end we'll end up like in the Seria A, empty stadia
     
  9. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    Seems like scoring is down worldwide as of late. If it keeps up, then I guess FIFA will have to make changes. Hopefully nothing drastic, but there's a few small things they could do. I remember hearing about possibly expanding the corner arc, for example.
     
  10. Catel

    Catel Member

    Dec 18, 2006
    Lyon, France
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    We broke a record this WE: 8 goals scored in 10 matchs.

    The last one was 9 goals in 10 matchs in 1987.
     
  11. Inara

    Inara Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 17, 2006
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    France
  12. Ballon d'or Identity

    Jul 27, 2005
    What do you mean ? There's a bonus for those who score in Ligue 1 ?
    Are you sure ?
     
  13. Catel

    Catel Member

    Dec 18, 2006
    Lyon, France
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    The "Challenge de l'offensive", a parallele chart.
    http://www.lfp.fr/ligue1/classementOffensive.asp

    I guess it is a total failure.
     
  14. Allez Lyonnais

    Allez Lyonnais New Member

    Jul 26, 2005
    TX
    It says something about rewarding the most offensive team. Do you know what that is? All I know is that this has nothing to do with determining the team rankings.
     
  15. AllezParisAllezPSG

    AllezParisAllezPSG New Member

    Sep 3, 2005
    Manhattan, NY
    i honestly don't mind it that much, i mean our avg goals score are up compared to last year and the past few years... and it's just like the NHL after the lock-out 2 yrs ago... they decided to decrease the padding for goalies, take away a few rules, all in the pursuit to increase goal scoring in hockey to get the crowd back to the arenas... now you regularly see 6-2 and 7-3 in hockey games... and i consider myself to be more traditionalist, where i loved seeing REAL close hockey games where the difference was just one goal... the point of my story is that i feel the same way about soccer... no doubt it would be nice to see a few more goals than yesterday, but i like the suspense :)

     
  16. Douai

    Douai New Member

    Jun 16, 2006
    États-Unis
    I stopped watching and supporting the NHL after that.I don't want football to turn into a goalfest like the NHL, but I do agree that there is a problem with low scoring in Ligue 1.
     
  17. Inara

    Inara Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 17, 2006
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Where have Ligue 1's goals gone? by Paul Doyle

     
  18. Allez Lyonnais

    Allez Lyonnais New Member

    Jul 26, 2005
    TX
    Time for some drastic measures.
     
  19. AfrcnHrbMan

    AfrcnHrbMan Member

    Jun 14, 2004
    Philly
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    I feel a part of the problem is with france's inability to even keep it second tier talent in place. It amazes me sometimes how many frenchmen (and africans brought up through the french systems) play in the premiership and championship, that wont have a chance of making the national squad.
     
  20. Douai

    Douai New Member

    Jun 16, 2006
    États-Unis
    I like these ideas from Paul Doyle's article:
    1. Apply the away goals rule in the domestic league

    2. Abolish draws by staging penalty shoot-outs when scores are level (with winners taking two points, losers one)

    3. Award two points for a score draw but just one for a 0-0
     
  21. AllezParisAllezPSG

    AllezParisAllezPSG New Member

    Sep 3, 2005
    Manhattan, NY
    i don't like any of those... sounds like the nhl to me... what we need to focus on is better management with youth squads and be able to retain them, reform the social aspects (high tax burden) to help clubs finance possibly better players, etc... so please, no nhl, in the end the winner of ligue 1 will win with 150 points...

    and are our strikers really that bad? when you mention names like cisse, pauleta, elmander, chamakh, darcheville, piquionne, govou, juninho, ribery, nasri are all just a few of the many examples of prolific goal scorers... so do i think our players are that bad goal scorers? no i really don't, but yes i think we can do better w/ the resources this championnat has to retain / get new strikers...
     
  22. Gotham PSG

    Gotham PSG New Member

    Jul 30, 2006
    To me, the real problem is with the managers and their tactics
    Instead of playing to win, they play not to lose
    And I blame Aime Jacquet. I remember back in 1998 my legend Cruijff saying that the french style would become prevalent in the next years, and that's what happened, with teams playing many holding midfielders and few strikers up front. That works when you have a real 10 who can get the balls from the 6s in the back and give them to the 9 up front, but we don't have that kind of players.
    And whenever a team tries to play good football, it loses exactly because it isn't as good at attacking as the other teams are at defending.
    When I was a kid I always thought through the ideal that if you don't score a goal, the opponent will, so it's up to you to score more goals than he does. In France you don't win by putting the most goals in, it's by letting the fewest goals in your own net. So they prefer making sure the back is solid enough before trying to go forward.

    Plus, not to forget, unlike the Premiership, France has real goalkeepers, so coupled with good defenders, and the strikers who seek the big money abroad, it's easy to see that there are different kind of plays.
    I don't want to speak about the seria A because I don't watch the calcio and I don't like Italian teams, but I do know they have a problem with attendance as well.

    Another unique aspect is the fact that while in England you have the big 4 that are always up front and leave no spoil for the others, in France it's hard for a team to stay consistently on top, whether it's because they lose their form rapidly, or are caught up by the pack, it's different than say Italy where it's always Milan Inter Roma and Juve or Spain with Barca Real and the token third which depends on the year, from Deportivo, to Valencia to Sevilla, etc.


    Now, some good ideas being brought up by Hidalgo. And interestingly enough I was watching FFF on FSC, and they talked about it, and the idea they liked, and I do as well, is the away goals rule, although I'm not sure how they can work it out in a league. I like the idea of giving an extra point of landslide results, although the goal average already counts as an extra point so it doesn't really matter.
    But I don't think it will change anything
     

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