Creo que podemos empezar a pensar en las posibles formaciones de la seleccion: Mora De la Cruz Hurtado Espinoza Reascos Mendez Valencia Ayovi Tenorio Tenorio Kaviedes o Salas, Guerron? Otros que se me vienen a la cabeza, Borja, Saritama, Iza. Creo que hay mucho de donde elegir esta ocasion. Algunas ideas?
Borja is knocking them in in Greece and Caicedo in Switzerland if I am not mistaken. If they keep up their form, I would have them start...only if they keep it up. Have to see more of Kaviedes though I would really enjoy to see him back on the NT. How old is he, BTW?? Mendez and Valencia for sure. DL Cruz needs to play more but he has always been solid. Poroso in Peru is not doing much and I haven't heard of Real Madrid's kid since he went back to Spain. Saritama need to play more with America as well but he will be good against Mexico's team. Otherwise, it is a pretty damn good team. I like the midfield.
I would like to see this squad,,,, Mora J.Montano I.Hurtado J.Guagua J.Valencia E.Tenorio S.Castillo L.Valencia E.Mendez C.Tenorio F.Caicedo Aragon,Quiroz,Urrutia,Borja,Benitez,Kaviedez,Espinoza,Reascos. Jairo Montano has made us forget about DLC in the last games,by being una revelacion en los ultimos patidos de la seleccion while DLC warms up the benches for Reading.Guagua titular en Colon,whom in my opinion has always been a better defender than Sombra.And of course the achillies tendon in our seleccion,,,,left back.Reascos can play left back but is not a natural left footer had problems in the WC going on attack.Jose Valencia has been screaming for the NT for the longest time.Paul Ambrossi is clown who can't defend,,only plays good Liga and sucks in the NT. The midfield our strongest point that should be easy to resolve,plus lately we have been blessed to have many good volantes de marca such Urrutia,Quiroz, I also like very much Santiago Morales the kid should get a chance some day,,,and like I said before LFS has his head up his azz.I like very much EL Rambert Vera from Liga only wish he could get naturalized. And our forwards are pretty much the ones every knows,excluding el Tin he's done.
thats my 11 Mora (LDU) De La Cruz (Reading FC) Hurtado (Atletico National) Espinoza (Vitesse Arhem) Reasco (Sao Paulo) Valencia (Wigan Athletic) Mendez (PSV Eindhoven) Castillo (Estrella Roja) E.Tenorio (Barcelona de guayaquil) Caicedo (FC Basel 1893) C.Tenorio (Al Sadd)
This is not an issue. Lo mismo paso en el Aston Villa antes de que empezara el mundial, y DLC jugo magistral el mundial. Mantiene el nivel con entrenamiento supongo.... Lo de guagua si te doy la razon, juega muy bien, pero la Sombra, pro algo fue considerado por muchos como el mejor defensa de Ecuador en el mundial.
"Jugo un MAGISTRAL mundial" You see this is whats wrong with most Ecuadorians,,,,lo regular=MAGISTRAL,,,lo mediocre=bueno.Se conforman con lo mas minimo,se conformaron con pasar al seconda ronda.Ahora Suarez es un dios.I"ve been involve in soccer all my life and not like some who only talk about the sport but can not play it,,,,,let me tell you that DLC performance in the WC was NOT magistral,,,bueno y acceptable, pero no MAGISTRAL.If that was the case than(magistral) than Ecuador should have made past England.And if you know the sport by the way you sound,,than you know that entrenamiento NO ES lo mismo que un partido official.
You are right, Magistral is not the adequate word. I still believe he had a good World Cup. I am not saying Suarez is a god either, but don't have any issue with him, that is why I ask what is your opinion on him. As for playing, I played, still play and play very well. Not only that but I believe I am well informed well read and keep myself updating continiously about not only Ecuador but the world of futbol as much as possible with the limitations one has being outside the country. As for el entrenamiento, are you joking? Of course I know the difference first hand! I am not saying that is the excuse, but had it been that DLC could not respond during the WC because of lack of game, he would've not played, that was not the case. He was, as you put it, in an acceptable performance like many of the team. In other words, he had no need of playing regularly in Aston to be prepared to play with the team. Would continuity in Reading help? Of course, but I still don't see any other player in Ecuador worth taking his position yet.... oh, and just so you know. if you read my previous threads, you will see I have always said, we cannot get satisfied with what we have, we need more. I definitively want a Copa America, is about f-cking time!! But I am sure you celebretated as well as all ecuadorian the performance of Ecuador in WC. just try to compare it with the rest of Latino Teams in the WC. In other subjects? How about Zura? Do you people think he would be able to cut it in the Seleccion? Will Suarez call him to try out in some of the amistosos like against Mexico? I was not aware he had offering from some B league team in Italy, just read it in El Comercio today.
I believe Edmundo Zura is the player who's name is being talked about the most right now. This kid had scored 18 gols in the last serie B tornament to help Imbabura ascend to serie A. LDU wanted him, EcuaSerieA teams wanted him, Italian teams wanted him, but he decided to stay loyal to Imbabura. In his last game in Serie A against Macara he outshown the rest with his skills. He's very visible and obviously talented. he simply outclassed Macara. watch him next time Imbabura plays. Did you see his first gol with the NT a header he made at the 85' min to tie against sweeden in last months friendly? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfcgxCv_Yxw The NT definitely needs to call up Zura for Copa America.
this just in: el “Nuevo Spiderman” fusiló a los Militares http://www.cre.com.ec/Desktop.aspx?Id=6 my line up for Copa America would look like this: Mora (LDU) De La Cruz (Reading FC) Hurtado (Atletico National) Espinoza (Vitesse Arhem) Reasco (Sao Paulo) Valencia (Wigan Athletic) Mendez (PSV Eindhoven) Castillo (Red Star) E.Tenorio (Barcelona) Caicedo (FC Basel 1893) Edmundo Zura (Imbabura) http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZFQJ_D6lWps
Zura the only "nacional" And Imbabura, no less. The pressure!! By the way, how is Ambrossi and Salas doing?
There is no need in rushing Zura to grandeza,we have good forwards at this time.Yes he is impressive right now,but a couple of good games and "1" gol con la seleccion means nothing.Lets take thing slowly con calma,he is young and needs a couple of more games and probably more seasons to see what he is all about.
Tampoco hubo altura en alemania. Yo tengo fe de que haciendo un programa de trabajo serio y objetivo, podemos avanzar en el grupo.
I'm tired of the altitude defense for a loss...as i recall both brazil and argentina beat bolivia in La Paz which is at an ever higher altitude!!! and argentina beat ecuador 2-0 back in the 2002 qualifiers....when mexico wins at home it's a monumental achievement but mexico city is at a pretty high altitude and nobody says anything about that...or the 100,000+ stadium that they play in... and chile? it's not like santiago is below sea level.....so the altitude is something sore losers conjure up to make themselves feel better...
suplentes Cristian Benitez, Cristian Lara, Patricio Urrutia, Felix Borja, Luis Saritama, Paul Ambrossi, & the 2 argie/ecua goal keeps
i would take out edwin tenorio and replace him with urrutia or lara...and just take 1 argentina/ecuador gk, and add salas
i agree urrutia should be playing instead of edwin. he is not even playing!! urrutia has much more skill and i'dsay he defends better too. stronger, faster, better passer, dangerous in set pieces; Yup he should start. guys its too soon to say zura deserves to play. he is behind benitez, kaviedes, borja and c tenorio in my opinion. i agree borja is playing well for his club. its difficult to choose. many forwards to select from. even kaviedes is playing well. when he is in form, no question he is the best we got. -----------mora -----hurtado--------la sombra dlc----------------------reasco --------castillo---urrutia valencia------------mendez --------kaviedes --------------borja(c. tenorio) bench ----------- klimowihcz? guagua perlaza montano ambrossi quiroz lara saritama benitez salas(if he is healthy and playing. if not, edder vaca) borja/tenorio caicedo
Yeah,you are some what correct regarding Urrutia and E,Tenorio.Yes Urrutia is faster ,better passer and dangerous in set pieces,,but he IS NOT stronger or a better defender than Tenorio.Have you not seen the "dirty" work Edwin does for Ecuador in every game he plays in.El mas arrecho de los jugadores Ecuatorianos en los ultimos anos. And we don't need the argie goalies,,we have many options to choose from.
I would also like to say that Edwin Tenorio is has probably been one of the most underrated EC players. He is determined, rock solid and consistent and I don't know why he hasn't been taken notice or given credit for his efforts. During Barcelona's crap years, he is also the one that has fought every game 100%. I would not trade him in - he is the rock in our midfield.
I truly believe Ecuador would have not made the last WC's appearance,have Edwin not been en la seleccion during those years.The man became a symbol de la tri in that game against Peru in Lima,for the 02 WC qualafier.While losing 1-0,after Mendez empato,the man grabbed his balls and showed it to the rest of the team,and you could read his lips very clearly,"ponle huevos"he said it to team.We ended up winning 2-1,and that was the game that got us to the cup.Seeing what Edwin did gave me goose bums,,I have never ever seen a Ecua baller do that,they would usaully just quite on the spot.But that afternoon Edwin put el jugador ecuatoriano on the spot.
to each their own i guess....because clearly the game which sent us to the WC was the 1-1 tie with uruguay for 02, and the game in Lima was all Tin Delgado, that goal was a showstopper...and the way it was scored was ruthless
In the end, yes...to each their own, but what cannot be argued is the importance and positive impact Edwin Tenorio has had on Ecuadorian "futbol" with Barcelona and the national team!! Very underrated, I believe.
Edwin Tenorio is the heart of the team. You always need a man like this on a team for stamina. His warrior ways and will to fight until the end are contagious and it's what have made the NT come back with extraordinary wins. Suarez knows this for sure.
well i like how he plays, he is a tough player with alot of heart, although i'm no barcelona fan, i do respect him incredibly and appreciate his commitment to our seleccion.....i only wish the federacion would stop being assholes to our players and show proper support!!!