US vs. Mexico -- The ESPN2 Broadcast [R]

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Asprilla9, Feb 7, 2007.

  1. Neubill

    Neubill Member

    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Jan 26, 2005
    Southern Kelehfornya
    3-Man team? Yes. Monday Night Football has done it for decades.
    Dave O'Brien? No. Decent fellow, but shouldn't be stuck with what he doesn't know.
    Overhead camera? Yes. It works, and quite well.
    Jack Edwards? Yes. He wasn't the problem. At least he knows the game.

    ESPN should have a screen name on BS. After years of deserving red, I'd give 'em green on the merit of last night's telecast.
     
  2. Gioca

    Gioca Member

    Jun 13, 2004
    Hartford
    Club:
    US Città di Palermo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My question is, did they still have the bottom score line the entire match?

    I watched Univision because I've gotten used to their full screen and showing the anthems, etc.
     
  3. GalaxyOne

    GalaxyOne Member+

    Dec 6, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ya, Arena makes some pretty obvious statements. After Denmark scored their one goal, Wynalda asked Bruce for his analysis of the goal during a replay, and as the replay is run in slow motion, all Bruce says is something like "it's a cross..........and a goal....." LMAO:D
     
  4. SnakeEyes

    SnakeEyes Member

    Oct 7, 2001
    To settle the HD talk. Yes they can air HD on both ESPN/2 HD and simply doing that doesn't cost anything extra. The problem was not only what was also on yesterday but the day before and tonight. It's rivalry week in the NCAA and the distribution of available HD production trucks, which are not yet in abundance, was the problem. NCAA college week takes priority.
     
  5. Asprilla9

    Asprilla9 Member

    Dec 15, 2000
    Beaverton, OR
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    sometimes that's all the analysis you need.

    when you're Brucie. :D
     
  6. StillKickin

    StillKickin Member+

    Austin FC
    Dec 17, 2002
    Texas
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I echo your thoughts on Wynalda.

    And apparently he thinks he should still be on the team. Found this little gem from Ive's blog:

    http://njmg.typepad.com/sbi/

    Yo, Eric...shut up, dude. It's over. They're not gonna ask you to lace them up again.
     
  7. Asprilla9

    Asprilla9 Member

    Dec 15, 2000
    Beaverton, OR
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    REP to Wynalda!! that is awesome. i wish everyone we had played with his fire ......... (granted it was counterproductive at times, but at least he cared).

    Waldo Rulezzzzzz :D:cool:
     
  8. sregis

    sregis Member

    Nov 5, 1999
    Hoboken, USA
    hell- i was saying the same thing at halftime...and i'm nowhere near waldo's scoring record.
     
  9. TxFan

    TxFan Member

    Sep 6, 2001
    I like the fact that Wynalda gets upset whenever our play is mediocre or disappointing. Seriously, its refreshing that someone in the media actually cares!
     
  10. revpro21

    revpro21 New Member

    Mar 19, 2000
    boston,ma, usa
    espn spent plenty of money on that show
    skycam alone is very expensive
    it is very important that we tell espn how much we appreciated the longer time slot and how cool the show looked

    it will go along way toward them putting more resources toward soccer tv in the future
     
  11. Li mu bei

    Li mu bei Member

    Jun 5, 2001
    Kettering, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    During the game, the only really negative comments Wynalda made were directed at Rolfe.

    Most of them were overly harsh and completley unnecessary. Arena actually stepped in once and defended Rolfe.

    Since his mancrush is not exactly a secret, it is logical to assume that Wynalda was upset that Twinkleman was on the bench and that Rolfe started.

    It becomes even more obvious why Wynalda, the former super-stud forward, was upset when he makes comments like "I could do better myself."

    It is sad that many people who were watching the game totally bought into the idea that Rolfe was "horrible."

    Besides being set up for failure by either Bradley (why play longball without the appropriate targets?) or the defense (why hoof the ball upfield instead of playing it on the ground when we are not playing with targets?), Wynalda threw Rolfe under the bus, in a very bad way.

    In the words of BA: "clathleth."
     
  12. Heist

    Heist Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think Rolfe's chances are over, but he did next to nothing during the game. I don't particularly remember the negative comments that Wynalda made. Maybe they were too harsh, but they weren't unfounded.
     
  13. revpro21

    revpro21 New Member

    Mar 19, 2000
    boston,ma, usa
    what was the general feeling about skycam
    liked or didnt like?
     
  14. Roach

    Roach Member

    Mar 16, 2004
    Charlotte, NC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ^ I liked the skycam, but in moderation. Some of the views and angles were really cool. One thing I noticed is they have to make sure that when they cut to another camera that that shot doesn't have the skycam in view. There were a couple of times that i noticed the skycam moving out of view and it was a bit distracting (actually I thought it was a player at first; ha!)

    The producer or whoever will need to get used to the feel and flow of a soccer match, so it may take a few matches to get the timing down.
     
  15. england66

    england66 Member+

    Jan 6, 2004
    dallas, texas

    Yes they did and if I understood Spanish I'd have watched Univision too.
     
  16. revpro21

    revpro21 New Member

    Mar 19, 2000
    boston,ma, usa
    i wasnt sure it was going to work but really liked it for replays

    less enamored with it for live action but an impressive move by espn to try new things
     
  17. USA_2014

    USA_2014 New Member

    Jun 22, 2005
    I felt like the skycam put you right on the field... whatever they paid for it, I think it was worth it.
     
  18. j66j66

    j66j66 Member

    Apr 26, 2005
    Portland, OR
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    albeit 30,000 feet up.
     
  19. revpro21

    revpro21 New Member

    Mar 19, 2000
    boston,ma, usa
    i really hope they use it on any mls stadium that can handle the set up
     
  20. Adam Zebrowski

    Adam Zebrowski New Member

    May 28, 1999
    wynalda has a certain quotient of open mouth disease..

    don't forget his passion for twellman, so he'll focus his criticism on anyhting to get twellman onto the pitch...

    the bottom line thing, i've learned to ignore it some what...

    switched over the 52MX for after match coverage LIVE for the mexico city studios.....

    really good analysis, not the puff stuff you get most of the time...
     
  21. saroccer

    saroccer New Member

    Jul 19, 2002
    Atl/Kabul
    Oh jeez, seriously? That man needs a reality check!
     
  22. saroccer

    saroccer New Member

    Jul 19, 2002
    Atl/Kabul
    It's one thing to get upset and another to think that you can do better...
     
  23. Adam Zebrowski

    Adam Zebrowski New Member

    May 28, 1999
    wynalda is how old??

    christ, grow up....no wonder the czechs got you that red card back in 1990...

    he whines like a 13 year old girl half the time....

    sure, espn likes that style approach....but give me some content...

    that's why arena sounds so good, for every stupid waldo whine, arena actually makes a decent point...
     
  24. ayers

    ayers Member

    Jul 9, 2002
    somewhere
    I agree. Wynalda can sound bitter sometimes.

    Thought the overall quality of the broadcast was good. Skycam's fine when used in right places, such as Donovan's goal. Camera work's much better. But there were too many shots of the crowds. It broke the flow of the game. Besides, I'd much prefer seeing the players' reaction after a goal instead of fans jumping up and down.

    Thought O'Brien did O.K. Arena and Wynalda worked nicely together. I liked how they offer different opinions from time to time. Arena thinks the midfielders should send in more crosses so that the frontline could have more support. Wynalda counters that the forwards aren't making runs and providing outlets for the midfield. Arena's voice kind of fades into the background sometimes. Maybe it's just my hearing, though.
     
  25. revpro21

    revpro21 New Member

    Mar 19, 2000
    boston,ma, usa
    yeah, i have to agree
    sometimes he just sort of fades away

    he needs a little more energy in his voice

    crowd shots are part of sports tv these days

    i didnt find them too bad
    i have seen much worse with nfl and mlb when ut us just annoying
     

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