I don't want to start some big ethnic argument,but what do you mean by "hispanic"? Do you mean Mestizo? The truth is,Claudio Reyna is just as white as Brian McBride or John O' Brien.Probably the same for Mastroeni.
and so are many brazilian and Argentine players. Mastro is 100% Argentinian heritage, while Reyna is 1/2 Argentine , 1/2 Brazilian I believe.
Tabare' is half-uruguayan i believe. Reyna is half-argentinian and half-other latin american country IIRC.
Reyna is half-Argentine and half-Portuguese, IIRC. Which is why he's had no trouble whatsoever playing his entire career in the EU.
Um, some of y'all need to google Al Campanis or check his wikipedia entry or something. Don't neg rep me because you're an ignorant ********.
Who said Brazilians aren't hispanic????, Hispanos are from LatinoAmerica, and the last time I checked Brazil is in south America, Hispanos even include Spain.
Brasil is part of Latin America which makes Brasilians latinos. Reyna, Bocanegra, Feilhaber, Armas, Quaranta, Garcia, et al have all gotten caps. And 'latino' isn't a racial designation; so even players of 100% certified caucasian blood can be latinos. As to why there aren't more in the National Team look at the demographics of Latino immagration to America. Most are coming from Mexico and the Carribbean. Soccer isn't the most popular sport in the Latin Carribbean, baseball is. You'll notice that latinos are very well represented in baseball. Soccer is obviously huge in Mexico but how successful has Mexico been on the world stage? More successful than the US but that's not saying much given the circumstances. How successful have Mexican players been in Europe? Why would we expect guys from these parts whether first or second generation to come in and dominate or even be particularly well represented? Immigration from South America has been small compared to that from Carribean, Mexican, and Central America but look at the ballers we've gotten; Ramos, Reyna, Mastroeni, Feilhaber. Shouldn't be a surprise given the success of South American players and NTs on the world stage. Africa and the Black Carribbean are also well represented in the program with ballers like Gibbs, Beez, Adu, Onyewu, Altidore, Davies. Again not surprising given the success that players from those regions have enjoyed in Europe. Brothers like Drogba and Essien are worth more than the entire USNT pool which is why I chuckled when Arena pooh pahed Africa's chances in the WC.
good points......one quick tidbit brasilians are considered latinos (wether they know it/like it or not) but are not considered hispanic. Also the word "Hispanic" is really only used in the states. It was originally used in the mainstream by the US Census bureau, and thus many people of spanish speaking roots resent the word "hispanic" and prefer "latino/a" Can get very complicated in different regions of the country and depending on the heritage of the person (S. America/C. America, Mexico..etc). But who cares.....this is a soccer forum...let's get back to talking about destroying El Tri on wednesday
So what you are saying is that we have no Americans on the national team. All the black players are Africans. All the players with latins surnames are hispanic. All the white guys on the team must learn the game from the country their ancestors came from. The reality of it all is that for the most part they all got their start in this country playing soccer. Develop their skills in this country's club systems. So they are AMERICANS.
Um... no, Riki... Brazilians are Latin allright, but they're not Hispanic because they don't speak the Spanish language. Hispanics are those whose mother country was Spain. As for why aren't there Hispanics in the UMSNT... in a nutshell: 1. Some coaches don't appreciate any style that is not British-compatible. Doesn't mean they won't accept players of x or y background; it (usually) means they'll force'em to play a style they don't or can't master. 2. A bunch of barrio kids I've seen who are really good end up dropping out of HS or won't attend college. 3. Some ethnic minority kids (not just latin) have very unrealistic hopes of making the mother country's NT.
In the past I would try to parse my posts, explain things again in a simpler manner to try and correct gross misinterpretations...
Whoever neg repped you was correct in doing so. Don't hide behind an Al Campanis reference. Some wonder why there aren't more Mex-Ameri fans of the USNT. There aren't more mestizo players on your NT for a few reasons. One. Most second and third gen mexican-americans are no different than any other american. They don't watch football or play it. Two. Most of your players who are chosen from the MLS are first chosen to play there from your college programs. Most recent mexican immigrants don't stress schooling at home, but getting to work asap. So they are not in the US soccer program's sight.